Freepers In Support Of The Supreme Court

Vanity | 06/28/03 | shred

[shred]

I think there are many Freepers who are tired of this constant bashing of the Supreme Court for Lawrence v. Texas. I think they did a great job and stuck a knife in the heart of big government.

Individual liberty is at the heart of what conservatism is all about - the individual having primacy over the state. It disturbs me that there are so many who wanted to see the state prevail in its desire to regulate private, individual freedoms.

I say, good job, to a consistent, conservative SC! You did exactly what you're supposed to be doing.

[onyx]

Your post is a joke, right?

[Coronal]

I hope you're wearing your flak vest and asbestos boxers.

[ElkGroveDan]

I see then. We don't want to know how you are going to be celebrating this weekend, thank you.

[shred]

In a few years, all the gnashing of teeth and wailing over this one will seem, in retrospect, to be much ado over nothing.

[shred]

Heh. I have both on, yep.

[Not Fooled]

Odd thing to say coming from someone who has a tag line of "Fighting for freedom and *having fun*".

My mammy once told me that those in glass houses...blah blah blah...

[Joe 6-pack]

"I think they did a great job and stuck a knife in the heart of big government."

...Uh, by telling the State of Texas (and by extension, 49 other states) they had no right to develop and enforce community standards?

Frankly, Lawrence legalized prostitution nation wide.

[JOE6PAK]

Wasn't this to be posted under HUMOR?

[jlogajan]

Shred, meet the big government conservatives. Big government conservatives, meet Shred.

[ElkGroveDan]

ahem...you are missing the point here.

The role of the supreme court is not to come up with good ideas or mediate between right and wrong, or decide between conservative and liberal.

Your post indicates that the so-called conservative "policy" handed down was consistent with FR beliefs. I won't even debate tha point.

The role of the supreme court is to deicde what IS in the constitution and what is NOT. In this case they decided that there is a right to privacy IN THE CONSTITUTION......THERE ISN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was a dumb ass decision -- even if you think a right to privacy is a good idea, that's not the point. IT ISN"T IN THE CONSTITUTION period.

What they did was legislate, as liberal judges have been doing for too damn long.

Hit the road Jack, the Lawrence decision was inconssiten with what most FReepers believe in.

[shred]

Well, my point exactly.

How can one support Big Government and call themselves a conservative.

I think they're mutually exclusive positions.

[Jeff Head]

Individual liberty is at the heart of what conservatism is

amd morality is at the heart of individual liberty.

As John Adams said...

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."- John Adams, Oct. 11, 1798

If we are to stay free, we must have both. That was the genius and basis for the entire "experiment" IMHO.

The further we get away from those fundamental principles on either count, the more danger to our Republic, to our way of life and to our liberty.

Just my opinion.

Jeff

[ElkGroveDan]

Odd thing to say coming from someone who has a tag line of "Fighting for freedom and *having fun*". My mammy once told me that those in glass houses...blah blah blah...

What a stupid thing to say. My tag line has to do with the quick-whitted sense of humor, and biting sarcasm that conservatives are known for. That's how I'm having fun. I reidicule liberals in my home and at my work. It's what I'm paid to do. Just because the 'mos all label their perverse habits as "fun," it doesn't become the definition for civilized society.

[Texas_Jarhead]

let's see...

They decide against equal protection on a 'moral' basis by affirming AA then state that they cannot make 'moral' judgements when applying equal protection

that about right? series

[Nexus]

lib·er·ty
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French

1 : the quality or state of being free: a : the power to do as one pleases b : freedom from physical restraint c : freedom from arbitrary or despotic control d : the positive enjoyment of various social, political, or economic rights and privileges e : the power of choice
2 a : a right or immunity enjoyed by prescription or by grant


I beleive Liberty is in the Constitution, is it not?

[Havisham]

I see then. We don't want to know how you are going to be celebrating this weekend, thank you.

I'm not why this but this reminded me of an exchange with Wolfe Blitzer, Jonathan Turley, and Ken O'Connor. Defeated by O'Connor's argument that anal sex had serious negative health consequences, Turley only managed to respond with the claim that he didn't accept that this was true. I thought, "Why is Turley defending sodomy instead of the law?" Just a passing thought.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

I agree. I personally do not agree with homosexuality, however, I agree even less with the nanny state telling free men what they can and can't do in their homes.

[f.Christian]

All social engineering is wrong ... unless it is big brother pc leftism --- then we have pc sodomy of the state shoved in our minds - homes - schools!

[kcar]

I'm certainly happy with that decision. The government has no business restricting private consensual activity. That was a big win for freedom.

Now, on the U 0f Michigan decision - whatever were they thinking? Freedom, not diversity, is what we're about. Diversity happens, or doesn't, based upon how people behave, now how government thinks they should behave.