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Acting out - Hollywood antiwar sentiment is loud and clear. And so is the opposition
Philly.com ^ | February 20, 2003 | By Beth Gillin

Posted on 02/28/2003 11:18:02 AM PST by MeekOneGOP

Posted on Thu, Feb. 20, 2003 story:PUB_DESC
Acting out
Hollywood antiwar sentiment is loud and clear. And so is the opposition.

Inquirer Staff Writer

Martin Sheen and James Cromwell turned out for Saturday's protest on Hollywood Boulevard in Los Angeles. Celebrities do affect public opinion, media experts say.
Martin Sheen and James Cromwell turned out for Saturday's protest on Hollywood Boulevard in Los Angeles. Celebrities do affect public opinion, media experts say.

It's the largest outpouring of star-powered anti-war sentiment since the Vietnam War.

Barbra Streisand, Martin Sheen, Jessica Lange, Spike Lee, Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, Martin Scorsese, Sean Penn, Robert Redford, Dustin Hoffman, Ossie Davis, Robert Altman.

Some of the country's biggest stars are loudly against invading Iraq.

Edward Norton, Tyne Daly, Danny Glover, Rob Reiner, Penelope Cruz, Alec Baldwin, Mike Farrell, Janeane Garofalo, Woody Harrelson and Rosario Dawson.

The list goes on.

They're marching and speechifying, signing petitions and making commercials to rally opposition against Gulf War Two: Return to Iraq.

Not everyone is impressed.

"If Washington is a Hollywood for ugly people, Hollywood is a Washington for the simpleminded," cracked maverick U.S. Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.).

Nevertheless, people are listening. "Celebrities have credibility with the general public," said Dennis Broe, a professor of film, media and television history at Long Island University. "As they raise the profile of the opposition, it hurts the president."

"They definitely influence opinion," agreed Paul Levinson, chairman of communications and media studies at Fordham University. "There's even a term for it in propaganda: false association, or appeal to false authority."

What this means, he said, is that a person admired as an authority on moviemaking or acting is easily accepted as an authority on politics as well.

The current rage for Five-Minute Ordinary People Celebrities hasn't dimmed the power of Hollywood stars by so much as a watt, Levinson said.

"Joe Millionaire is still an average Joe. He lacks the clout of a star whose work we've admired over and over on the screen."

But can they stop the war? So far, the Hollywood Left has managed to seriously annoy some in the American Middle.

By yesterday afternoon, 30,531 people had logged on to www.ipetitions.com to sign an online petition called "Citizens Against Celebrity 'Pundits.' "

The petition protests movie- star marchers "using their celebrity to interfere with the defense of our country."

Accompanying many signatures are blistering comments - "low-intelligence egomaniacs," "stay in your fantasy world and out of foreign affairs" - as well as boycott threats.

It may seem that the antiwar stars speak for all of Hollywood. They don't. Many actors are Republican (Heather Locklear, Kelsey Grammer, Babylon Five's Tracy Scoggins, Senator-turned-Law-&-Order-star Fred Thompson.)

Others are libertarian (Drew Carey, Lisa Kennedy, Kurt Russell, Penn and Teller, Tommy Chong, Russell Means).

Emma Caulfield, who plays Anya on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, describes herself as "ultraconservative." Conservative Everybody Loves Raymond star Patricia Heaton is honorary chairperson of Feminists for Life.

Professionally they may all get along. But when it comes down to the political and the personal, Hollywood Hawks and Tinseltown Liberals can clash.

There was Bush supporter James Woods, tooling down the highway in his car on Feb. 3, when he heard David Clennon, star of CBS's The Agency, on the radio comparing the "moral climate" of America to Nazi Germany.

Except, Clennon told Sean Hannity, host of the national syndicated show, Hitler was smarter than Bush.

Furious, Woods called the show and peppered Clennon with quotes from Prussian military theorist Carl von Clausewitz, who famously called war "the continuation of politics by other means."

In January, Woods came under fire for telling the host of a Los Angeles TV show: "If they harbor terrorists, we should wipe them off the face of the Earth. Eventually, one of these terrorist diaper-heads is going to come around and do something more horrible."

Callers complained that the insult was a racist slur. "I think Mr. Woods is off his medication," said Jean Abinader of the Arab American Institute in Washington.

Last month, hawk Ron Silver almost caused an international incident at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. Enraged that Patrick Cox, president of the European Union parliament, called the United States an imperialist nation, Silver jumped from his table and lectured Europe for sitting on the sidelines in the Balkans while America fought for peace.

Afterward, he and Cox went out for a drink. Lately, Silver's been popping up on TV talk shows, urging viewers to give war a chance.

Pro-war or anti-, celebrities seem to over-emote when overseas.

In Spain last fall, Jessica Lange said, "It is an embarrassing time to be an American. It really is. It's humiliating."

Conservative John Malkovich caused an outcry last summer when he told a group of Cambridge students he'd like to shoot a certain anti-Israel, anti-American member of Parliament.

When Bush supporter R. Lee Ermey, a former Marine who played the scary drill sergeant in Full Metal Jacket, was asked by a London newspaper about a certain well-known diva's anti-war statements, Ermey thundered:

"Once again, Barbra Streisand has opened her alligator-sized mouth wide before her hummingbird brain has had a chance to catch up. Ms. Streisand does not speak for me or many other folks in this business."

Indeed, the biggest majority in Hollywood is silent.

Perhaps fearful that any position they might take could impede the flow of box-office receipts, most stars are straddling the fence.

Even Bruce Willis, White House spokesman for children in foster care, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, who may run as a Republican for governor of California, are mum on Iraq.

Robin Williams, who has entertained troops in Afghanistan, says he's still making up his mind.

"It's difficult," he told the New York Post. "Winning the war would be quick. Occupying the country is the second part of the equation... . How long would we be there? And how much will it cost? Nine trillion dollars? Ah, what's that among friends?"

Even if the country goes to war and Americans rally around the President, Levinson said, the celebrities who advised against it aren't likely to suffer long-term effects.

He points to Jane Fonda, who won an Oscar for Klute in 1971, and sparked outrage the next year when she went to Hanoi to protest the Vietnam War. Her career went into eclipse, but by 1978 all was forgiven and she won another Oscar, for Coming Home.

"And if she made another movie today," Levinson said, "I've no doubt she'd be embraced."



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To: Uncle Hal
>>These so called "peace rallies" are all anti Bush
>>rallies as well as anti USA

I think the ones in Europe could be best described as anti-Republican. They've always opposed the Republican idea of "peace through strength." They opposed Reagan in the 1980s ... and now Shrub twenty years later. In fact, there was a German guy on Hardball a few nights ago that admitted that most of Europe has an affinity for "Democrat" and an almost knee-jerk opposition to "Republican." Never mind that more Democrats have led the world to war vis-a-vis their appeasement than Republicans have through their threat of force. Who is old enough to remember Goldwater? Johnson accused him of being trigger happy and would lead us into WWIII and the annihilation of the planet. Need I remind people where Johnson took us?
121 posted on 02/28/2003 4:23:58 PM PST by LiberalBuster
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To: Britton J Wingfield
>>You don't have to be conservative to support invading
>>Iraq.

Indeed. And, you don't have to be a liberal to be against it.
122 posted on 02/28/2003 4:32:13 PM PST by LiberalBuster
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To: esoteric
Did anybody else see Montel Williams on Fox this morning?

What did he say?

123 posted on 02/28/2003 5:43:07 PM PST by WKB
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To: mikhailovich
Hear hear!!! We *can* make a difference by simply not purchasing Hollyweird claptrap. The last movie I saw in the theatre was the Two Towers (and it was worth every cent). Before that, I saw Fellowship of the Ring, and it was Ice Age before that...so I don't watch a whole lot of movies, either. Hollywood folks are by nature insecure (they spend their whole lives pretending and then asking others how well they did). Yank their cash strings and they're done for.
124 posted on 02/28/2003 7:47:17 PM PST by =Intervention= (so freaking sick of the lies...)
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To: WKB
Yes I saw Montel Williams....he supports the War to Liberate Iraq.....he was great!
125 posted on 02/28/2003 7:52:15 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04........Across America!)
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To: MeeknMing; All
How are we going to have a thread on FR mentioning Tracy Scoggins and not have a picture? There outta be a law!!!


126 posted on 02/28/2003 8:10:18 PM PST by Live free or die
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To: MeeknMing
Does anybody know about Ron Silver. I alway thought he was an über liberal.

...Silver, a highly visible member of the arts community, is also a forceful and outspoken advocate of liberal causes.
Source: IMDB

Has he had some kind of conversion or is he just more hawkish then his f(r)iends?
127 posted on 02/28/2003 8:25:26 PM PST by evilC
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To: Mr. Thorne
Thanks, I needed that.
128 posted on 02/28/2003 8:26:21 PM PST by stop_fascism
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To: MadMoo
Be sure to sign this petition, please!

http://www.620wtmj.com/620programs/inourname.asp

129 posted on 02/28/2003 8:30:41 PM PST by Quietly
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To: Rocko
I have that soundboard bookmarked and whenever I want a good chuckle, I listen to it.

My favorite is "You had best unf#@% yourself, or I will unscrew your head and sh!t down your neck!!!"

130 posted on 02/28/2003 8:44:11 PM PST by SW6906
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To: MadMoo
Sign that 'Pundit' petition!

Thanks ! I did ...

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Richard Meek TX I fully support President Bush in the defense of our country. I denounce the Liberal Left Hollywood types that support Saddam Hussein who is a murdering tyrant holding 24 million Iraqis hostage. Note to Alec Baldwin, Martin Sheen, Mike Ferrell et al: Take a hike !! www.freerepublic.com

131 posted on 03/01/2003 1:49:15 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye SADdam. Prepare to meet your buddy Stalin in Hades!)
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To: joesnuffy
Thanks for posting that link. Makes it easy for folks to go tell Hollyweird/HollyStupid/HollySupportSaddam what they think !
132 posted on 03/01/2003 1:56:45 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye SADdam. Prepare to meet your buddy Stalin in Hades!)
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To: SpookBrat
Ahhh! Get that Fonda-commie off my screen!!!
133 posted on 03/01/2003 2:17:32 AM PST by Carthago delenda est (Hillary must be destroyed.)
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To: jwalsh07
Check out this pic on Stryker's website !



134 posted on 03/01/2003 8:06:56 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: AntiJen
AntiJen,Wow,our list is growing.Just got back from a trip.
135 posted on 03/02/2003 1:36:33 PM PST by fatima (Prayers for all our troops and loved ones.)
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To: MeeknMing
Why is it that elected democrats don't have the nads to say this junk in public and they pay their hollywood minions to do their dirty work ?
136 posted on 03/02/2003 1:37:58 PM PST by ChadGore (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordian)
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To: MeeknMing
"And if she [Jane Fonda] made another movie today," Levinson said, "I've no doubt she'd be embraced."

Clue. less.

137 posted on 03/02/2003 1:40:15 PM PST by RobFromGa (Real Americans Support Our Soldiers 100%)
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To: SpookBrat; river rat
Semper Fidelis Marine Ermey and my comments to Hanoi Jane violate the rules of the forum. Evil Witch is as kind as I can be.
138 posted on 03/02/2003 1:42:03 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: CARepubGal
I hear ya! I was a baby when she did this, but I grew up with parents who made sure I remembered what she did.
139 posted on 03/02/2003 2:01:27 PM PST by SpookBrat
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To: SW6906
Fascinating, hilarious!
140 posted on 03/02/2003 2:12:17 PM PST by buffer (Live from a bunker in Upland.........)
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