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Acting out - Hollywood antiwar sentiment is loud and clear. And so is the opposition
Philly.com ^ | February 20, 2003 | By Beth Gillin

Posted on 02/28/2003 11:18:02 AM PST by MeekOneGOP

Posted on Thu, Feb. 20, 2003 story:PUB_DESC
Acting out
Hollywood antiwar sentiment is loud and clear. And so is the opposition.

Inquirer Staff Writer

Martin Sheen and James Cromwell turned out for Saturday's protest on Hollywood Boulevard in Los Angeles. Celebrities do affect public opinion, media experts say.
Martin Sheen and James Cromwell turned out for Saturday's protest on Hollywood Boulevard in Los Angeles. Celebrities do affect public opinion, media experts say.

It's the largest outpouring of star-powered anti-war sentiment since the Vietnam War.

Barbra Streisand, Martin Sheen, Jessica Lange, Spike Lee, Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, Martin Scorsese, Sean Penn, Robert Redford, Dustin Hoffman, Ossie Davis, Robert Altman.

Some of the country's biggest stars are loudly against invading Iraq.

Edward Norton, Tyne Daly, Danny Glover, Rob Reiner, Penelope Cruz, Alec Baldwin, Mike Farrell, Janeane Garofalo, Woody Harrelson and Rosario Dawson.

The list goes on.

They're marching and speechifying, signing petitions and making commercials to rally opposition against Gulf War Two: Return to Iraq.

Not everyone is impressed.

"If Washington is a Hollywood for ugly people, Hollywood is a Washington for the simpleminded," cracked maverick U.S. Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.).

Nevertheless, people are listening. "Celebrities have credibility with the general public," said Dennis Broe, a professor of film, media and television history at Long Island University. "As they raise the profile of the opposition, it hurts the president."

"They definitely influence opinion," agreed Paul Levinson, chairman of communications and media studies at Fordham University. "There's even a term for it in propaganda: false association, or appeal to false authority."

What this means, he said, is that a person admired as an authority on moviemaking or acting is easily accepted as an authority on politics as well.

The current rage for Five-Minute Ordinary People Celebrities hasn't dimmed the power of Hollywood stars by so much as a watt, Levinson said.

"Joe Millionaire is still an average Joe. He lacks the clout of a star whose work we've admired over and over on the screen."

But can they stop the war? So far, the Hollywood Left has managed to seriously annoy some in the American Middle.

By yesterday afternoon, 30,531 people had logged on to www.ipetitions.com to sign an online petition called "Citizens Against Celebrity 'Pundits.' "

The petition protests movie- star marchers "using their celebrity to interfere with the defense of our country."

Accompanying many signatures are blistering comments - "low-intelligence egomaniacs," "stay in your fantasy world and out of foreign affairs" - as well as boycott threats.

It may seem that the antiwar stars speak for all of Hollywood. They don't. Many actors are Republican (Heather Locklear, Kelsey Grammer, Babylon Five's Tracy Scoggins, Senator-turned-Law-&-Order-star Fred Thompson.)

Others are libertarian (Drew Carey, Lisa Kennedy, Kurt Russell, Penn and Teller, Tommy Chong, Russell Means).

Emma Caulfield, who plays Anya on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, describes herself as "ultraconservative." Conservative Everybody Loves Raymond star Patricia Heaton is honorary chairperson of Feminists for Life.

Professionally they may all get along. But when it comes down to the political and the personal, Hollywood Hawks and Tinseltown Liberals can clash.

There was Bush supporter James Woods, tooling down the highway in his car on Feb. 3, when he heard David Clennon, star of CBS's The Agency, on the radio comparing the "moral climate" of America to Nazi Germany.

Except, Clennon told Sean Hannity, host of the national syndicated show, Hitler was smarter than Bush.

Furious, Woods called the show and peppered Clennon with quotes from Prussian military theorist Carl von Clausewitz, who famously called war "the continuation of politics by other means."

In January, Woods came under fire for telling the host of a Los Angeles TV show: "If they harbor terrorists, we should wipe them off the face of the Earth. Eventually, one of these terrorist diaper-heads is going to come around and do something more horrible."

Callers complained that the insult was a racist slur. "I think Mr. Woods is off his medication," said Jean Abinader of the Arab American Institute in Washington.

Last month, hawk Ron Silver almost caused an international incident at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. Enraged that Patrick Cox, president of the European Union parliament, called the United States an imperialist nation, Silver jumped from his table and lectured Europe for sitting on the sidelines in the Balkans while America fought for peace.

Afterward, he and Cox went out for a drink. Lately, Silver's been popping up on TV talk shows, urging viewers to give war a chance.

Pro-war or anti-, celebrities seem to over-emote when overseas.

In Spain last fall, Jessica Lange said, "It is an embarrassing time to be an American. It really is. It's humiliating."

Conservative John Malkovich caused an outcry last summer when he told a group of Cambridge students he'd like to shoot a certain anti-Israel, anti-American member of Parliament.

When Bush supporter R. Lee Ermey, a former Marine who played the scary drill sergeant in Full Metal Jacket, was asked by a London newspaper about a certain well-known diva's anti-war statements, Ermey thundered:

"Once again, Barbra Streisand has opened her alligator-sized mouth wide before her hummingbird brain has had a chance to catch up. Ms. Streisand does not speak for me or many other folks in this business."

Indeed, the biggest majority in Hollywood is silent.

Perhaps fearful that any position they might take could impede the flow of box-office receipts, most stars are straddling the fence.

Even Bruce Willis, White House spokesman for children in foster care, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, who may run as a Republican for governor of California, are mum on Iraq.

Robin Williams, who has entertained troops in Afghanistan, says he's still making up his mind.

"It's difficult," he told the New York Post. "Winning the war would be quick. Occupying the country is the second part of the equation... . How long would we be there? And how much will it cost? Nine trillion dollars? Ah, what's that among friends?"

Even if the country goes to war and Americans rally around the President, Levinson said, the celebrities who advised against it aren't likely to suffer long-term effects.

He points to Jane Fonda, who won an Oscar for Klute in 1971, and sparked outrage the next year when she went to Hanoi to protest the Vietnam War. Her career went into eclipse, but by 1978 all was forgiven and she won another Oscar, for Coming Home.

"And if she made another movie today," Levinson said, "I've no doubt she'd be embraced."



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To: smith288; All
Thanks...

Thanks for all your comments, folks. I will be back later on, probably tomorrow to see them all then ...

81 posted on 02/28/2003 1:27:02 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye SADdam. Prepare to meet your buddy Stalin in Hades!)
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To: SpookBrat
I've been watching it this afternoon for about an hour

You are getting sleepy...sleepy.......sleeeeeppy

82 posted on 02/28/2003 1:27:07 PM PST by paul51
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To: SpookBrat
In Basic training I never had anyone in my face like Gunny Sgt. Hartman , but I saw it first hand with some other guys and it was powerfully motivating.
83 posted on 02/28/2003 1:31:20 PM PST by oyez (If I'm double posting. I'm sorry)
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To: Mr. Thorne
WHo dat?
84 posted on 02/28/2003 1:33:36 PM PST by oyez (If I'm double posting. I'm sorry)
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To: paul51
zzzzzzzzzzz....

LOL I'm not "really" watching it. I'm reading other stuff then going back and hitting refresh. Fascinating I tell you! What a life I lead!

85 posted on 02/28/2003 1:34:15 PM PST by SpookBrat
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To: MeeknMing
Did anybody else see Montel Williams on Fox this morning?
Incredible. Who knew?
86 posted on 02/28/2003 1:42:59 PM PST by esoteric
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To: babylonian
I agree with your statement. The last film that I paid for was 'Enemy of the State', little bit of irony there don't you think.
87 posted on 02/28/2003 1:47:34 PM PST by 11Bush
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To: Wright is right!
Malk and Woods....

Life is good! These two guys have always been favorites of mine. It's really nice to know that they are on the right side of things.

As for Woods comment about wiping em off the face of the earth...well, it's going to come to that.
88 posted on 02/28/2003 1:52:31 PM PST by Stopislamnow
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To: NDante77
I was speaking generally about all conservatives who mouth off about Hollywood stars using their star power to make asinine coments. If i take a notion to speak only for myself, rest assured I will.
89 posted on 02/28/2003 1:54:20 PM PST by babylonian (So much goes right over their heads.)
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To: paul51
What would really be interesting is to sit here and figure out where everyone is coming from. CA sure has a lot of signers.

I live a worthless life, I know.

90 posted on 02/28/2003 1:54:31 PM PST by SpookBrat
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To: cateizgr8
"If Washington is a Hollywood for ugly people, Hollywood is a Washington for the simpleminded," cracked maverick U.S. Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.).

91 posted on 02/28/2003 1:54:35 PM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: anoldafvet
Me too. I was at Da Nang in 1964 and 1965 and I WILL NEVER FORGIVE HER!!

Good!

I can't believe that someone is stupid enough to say that she has been forgiven just because she won an Oscar.

On second thought, yes I can.......

92 posted on 02/28/2003 1:56:06 PM PST by SeaDragon
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To: MeeknMing
Artists United
Win Without War

I wish these idiots would stop calling themselfs 'artists'. Rembrandt was an artist. Martin Sheen, Rosie O'Donnel and CarrotTop are NOT.

93 posted on 02/28/2003 2:01:55 PM PST by harry palmer
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To: william clark
Cromwell will always be Marcel (Murder by Death) to me.

Who could forget him, buck naked, handcuffed to a pole in "Tank."

94 posted on 02/28/2003 2:05:34 PM PST by itsahoot
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To: CaptRon
Perhaps on Iraq he is conservative but I wouldn't bet the farm on it otherwise. Malkovich lives in the South of France, or did a few years ago when he left Los Angeles stating he couldn't stand the locale anymore. Who knows WHAT that meant?
95 posted on 02/28/2003 2:09:53 PM PST by CarmelValleyite
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To: Trust but Verify
I have neither rented nor bought, nor attended movies of any of the Hollyweirdos in many, many years.

96 posted on 02/28/2003 2:12:17 PM PST by CarmelValleyite
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To: harry palmer
Rembrandt was an artist. Martin Sheen, Rosie O'Donnel and CarrotTop are NOT.

Carrot Top is against the war? Dang, another one of my heroes bites the dust.

97 posted on 02/28/2003 2:16:36 PM PST by ThreeYearLurker
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To: CarmelValleyite
You don't have to be conservative to support invading Iraq. Flaming liberals like Dan Savage have been beating the crap out of their own for 2 years now for not supporting war in Afghanistan/Iraq.
98 posted on 02/28/2003 2:16:48 PM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: MeeknMing
Its amazing when you consider that each and every one of them has profited handsomely from glorifying all forms of violence.

Sheen has made more money from war and garnered more political clout because of war than have most dictators.
99 posted on 02/28/2003 2:25:25 PM PST by Kay Soze (F France and Germany- They are our enemies.)
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To: Trust but Verify
I have. It hacks my family off, but I'm standing firm. Try it, you'll like it, Freepers. Watch do-it-yourself type cable programming and learn while you relax.

You can also take movies out from many libraries. My local library has several hundred of them. Sure, they don't get them as fast as the video stores do, but at least you aren't putting money in the pockets of some of these far-left actors.

100 posted on 02/28/2003 2:31:02 PM PST by TrappedInLiberalHell (Let's Iraq and Roll!)
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