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Your Attention Please [Breaking News and WoD Flamewars]

Posted on 02/13/2003 6:20:56 AM PST by Admin Moderator

Edited on 02/13/2003 7:35:18 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Since my last vanity announcement on keywords went so swimmingly (it ended up with something like 5000 keywords added to it) I thought a great idea would be to throw some propane on some other fires with a vanity.

Breaking news is being abused again, big time. This goes in cycles, with sometimes people being responsible, but other times people not being very responsible.

We are in one of the not-very time periods.

Please, do not post something in Breaking News because you think it is something you want people to see. Place something in Breaking News only if it is

  1. Something the networks would interrupt their programming to say,
  2. The networks would interrupt their programming to say if they weren't overwhelmingly liberal,
  3. Something that honestly would (not should, would) be of interest to majority of self-described conservatives
  4. Official chapter announcements
Or things along those lines. Don't consider that a list of rules, but of guidelines. But act as if the guidelines matter, please. And flame the heck out of people that don't. And provide appropriate feedback to people who don't.

Some things that are never breaking news: Stories that have been posted before, stories that are over a day old, opinion vanities, freep this poll, or anything from the op-ed section of any newspaper.

Now, on to the WoD [War on Drugs] flamewars. There are a few problems with them. The flaming on them is tremendous. It is wrong for several reasons, and it should stop and the first thing we are going to do to try to get them to stop is to make a request for them to stop. If you feel the need to flame someone for something they say on one of these threads, do this (and yes, it involves a lot more work than just hitting reply, but such is life):

  1. Post a copy of the article to the Smokey Backroom
  2. Ping your flamee to that copy.
  3. Go to town over there and keep the crap off the main forum.

Instead of hitting abuse on someone on a WoD thread right away (unless it is extremely bad), please just advise them to do what I am saying here- take it to the backroom. Link them to this if need be. And if you don't want to get into a flamewar, leave it at that. If you do, then join them in the backroom and have at it. The WoD flamewars overwhelm the latest posts page with a neverending sequence of posts that are just mindless insults. Please, spare us, and don't try to put it on the moderators to determine who fired the first shot. There are rarely clean hands here, and no matter what we do one side or another is going to complain.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled Freeping. I expect no fewer than 500 taunts at us in the keywords here before this is over. Thank you, and God Bless. ;-)


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To: CWOJackson
Since when are you and Kevin "the rest of the nation"?
241 posted on 02/13/2003 12:10:35 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excessive legislation.)
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To: CWOJackson
"Now there is libertarian thought for you. To the rest of the nation is was a complete ass whopping. "

And 20 years ago it would only have gotten 20% of the vote.

Another 20 years and we will win.
242 posted on 02/13/2003 12:10:40 PM PST by toothless
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To: Eagle Eye
Typical libertarian speak. The legality of alcohol and cigarettes having nothing to do with meth labs in our communities. Like I said, you want to really educate yourself read the Rolling Stone article...then you might start seeing some of the truth about meth labs.
243 posted on 02/13/2003 12:11:08 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: toothless
Actually you went backwards in Nevada. You started out way ahead in the polls and started loosing ground quickly. There is no reason to expect that trend to change in the near future.

Work real, real hard and you might take Nevada in 50 years.

244 posted on 02/13/2003 12:14:16 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: jayef
I bought all my wholesale meth from bikers. They operated labs in the backwoods of southern Arkansas. But that was 20 years ago.
245 posted on 02/13/2003 12:14:24 PM PST by Skooz (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: CWOJackson
No, the best practice for newcomers to a board is to read enough to identify who are trolls and who are actually civil. Then, once identified, newcomers can just skip over trolls' posts. That's exactly what I do.

This could be facilitated by the admins by including the number of abuse complaints (or different abuse complainers) right next to every poster's name. It doesn't resctrict anyone in a any way, but it does help identify who is a habitual flamer and who isn't.
246 posted on 02/13/2003 12:15:14 PM PST by spodbox
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To: Eagle Eye
Since when?

Check out the vote counts next election.

247 posted on 02/13/2003 12:15:26 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
"Work real, real hard and you might take Nevada in 50 years."

20 Years, 50 Years, freedom can wait.
248 posted on 02/13/2003 12:16:33 PM PST by toothless
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To: CWOJackson
Oh, that's right, we had meth lab problems BEFORE 1970, right?

Silly drug warrior, meth labs are a direct response to drug laws and people trying to turn a profit by supplying a demand.

Silly drug warrior, we cannot even keep drugs out of high security prisons yet you think you can use the same tactics to keep them out of a free society.

Silly drug warrior, God Almighty gave man the ability to choose between right and wrong and to enjoy the benefits of good decisions or reap the consequences of bad decisions. Yet you and those like you deem yourself wise enough to make choices and place demands on others without their consent.

No, drug abuse is not good. But it isn't your place to decide for others if they should or not.

249 posted on 02/13/2003 12:17:22 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excessive legislation.)
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To: clamper1797
I strongly suggest that the obvious Trolls be IGNORED

I have suggested that more than once over the past few years, but to no avail. When the are ignored, they go away. Its been done on a small scale, but some new poster inevitably responds to an inane posts not knowing the poster is a troll.

We need NOT to post, reply, to them or even acknowledge their presence.

I personally think this approach does show the "casual lurker" that their(trolls) ideas are whacked-out, and not considered by freepers who post rational arguments based upon freedom, liberty and personal responsibility and not nani-ism, authoritarianism and socialism.

250 posted on 02/13/2003 12:18:10 PM PST by FreeTally
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To: CWOJackson
Maybe so. Like I said, I could care less. The meter runs and the revenues are getting mighty thin. How long you think all this is gonna last?
251 posted on 02/13/2003 12:18:44 PM PST by jayef
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To: spodbox
That's kind of what happens at the ballot box. Voters look over the parties, platforms and positions and make their decisions. And we've seen where that's be going lately.
252 posted on 02/13/2003 12:18:44 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
And if the 'rest of the nation' voted for unrestricted abortion you'd not cite that as evidence of being right.
253 posted on 02/13/2003 12:19:32 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excessive legislation.)
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To: toothless
You wait for your freedom...I enjoy the freedom today.
254 posted on 02/13/2003 12:19:48 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: toothless
I'm with you. Execute all large volume drug pushers. Exile pot dealers to 3rd world nations. We make a deal with Swaziland for example, to take them for $5,000 a head.

Pushers are the scum of the earth. China executes them and we should do the same. Offer compulsory treatment to their stupid addicted customers.
255 posted on 02/13/2003 12:20:39 PM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: Eagle Eye
No, it isn't my place. That's why we have elected officials, laws, judges, etc.
256 posted on 02/13/2003 12:20:59 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: dennisw
"Pushers are the scum of the earth. China executes them and we should do the same. Offer compulsory treatment to their stupid addicted customers. "

Agreed 100%. If we did that, the WOD would end within 30 days.
257 posted on 02/13/2003 12:22:03 PM PST by toothless
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To: Peach
"what is a WoD?"

Weapon of De-Feet (in flamin' fingers)? Admin Moderator defined it in his comments - "WoD [War on Drugs]"
258 posted on 02/13/2003 12:22:53 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: dennisw
Another "Kill em All" proponent. I guess you're right at home with the "Set Off the Nukes and Pray for the Best" crowd.
259 posted on 02/13/2003 12:23:16 PM PST by jayef
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To: Eagle Eye
Apples and oranges. Fact is, no one's voting for anything the lp offers.
260 posted on 02/13/2003 12:23:22 PM PST by CWOJackson
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