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Your Attention Please [Breaking News and WoD Flamewars]

Posted on 02/13/2003 6:20:56 AM PST by Admin Moderator

Edited on 02/13/2003 7:35:18 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Since my last vanity announcement on keywords went so swimmingly (it ended up with something like 5000 keywords added to it) I thought a great idea would be to throw some propane on some other fires with a vanity.

Breaking news is being abused again, big time. This goes in cycles, with sometimes people being responsible, but other times people not being very responsible.

We are in one of the not-very time periods.

Please, do not post something in Breaking News because you think it is something you want people to see. Place something in Breaking News only if it is

  1. Something the networks would interrupt their programming to say,
  2. The networks would interrupt their programming to say if they weren't overwhelmingly liberal,
  3. Something that honestly would (not should, would) be of interest to majority of self-described conservatives
  4. Official chapter announcements
Or things along those lines. Don't consider that a list of rules, but of guidelines. But act as if the guidelines matter, please. And flame the heck out of people that don't. And provide appropriate feedback to people who don't.

Some things that are never breaking news: Stories that have been posted before, stories that are over a day old, opinion vanities, freep this poll, or anything from the op-ed section of any newspaper.

Now, on to the WoD [War on Drugs] flamewars. There are a few problems with them. The flaming on them is tremendous. It is wrong for several reasons, and it should stop and the first thing we are going to do to try to get them to stop is to make a request for them to stop. If you feel the need to flame someone for something they say on one of these threads, do this (and yes, it involves a lot more work than just hitting reply, but such is life):

  1. Post a copy of the article to the Smokey Backroom
  2. Ping your flamee to that copy.
  3. Go to town over there and keep the crap off the main forum.

Instead of hitting abuse on someone on a WoD thread right away (unless it is extremely bad), please just advise them to do what I am saying here- take it to the backroom. Link them to this if need be. And if you don't want to get into a flamewar, leave it at that. If you do, then join them in the backroom and have at it. The WoD flamewars overwhelm the latest posts page with a neverending sequence of posts that are just mindless insults. Please, spare us, and don't try to put it on the moderators to determine who fired the first shot. There are rarely clean hands here, and no matter what we do one side or another is going to complain.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled Freeping. I expect no fewer than 500 taunts at us in the keywords here before this is over. Thank you, and God Bless. ;-)


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To: CWOJackson
Let's put it into a ratio that you might understand then...as of this morning there are three less potential libertarian voters on the street.

I would never repeat a mistake your parents made.

Did you read the beginning of this thread...or do you just get your jollies by making an a$$ out of yourself?

OR...is it a childish attempt to divert and degrade any form of sound debate here so that it can be moved into the Romper Room? (where it seems you feel right at home)

221 posted on 02/13/2003 11:49:37 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: CWOJackson
Meth labs and designer drugs are a direct result of the WoD. A DIRECT result.

The legislature declares a compound illegal, someone throws on another radical group and voila a whole new unregulated drug that needs a new law to regulate it.

Of course, these drugs and labs are hazardous to everyone involved from the manufacturer to the consumer.

222 posted on 02/13/2003 11:49:37 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excessive legislation.)
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To: jayef
"Yep, victory is at hand."

In several ways...your voting block is getting smaller. However, I can understand how your concept of victory is slightly screwed up. That sure was a stunning victory you folks had in Nevada.

I mean come on. You spend millions of dollars to get pot legalized in a state where boozing, gambling and prostituting 24/7 are legal. Where every other sin and vice isn't just legal, it's celebrated. You bring in thousands of activists, run TV and radio ads around the clock, hand out flyers, put up bill boards...and you can't get pot made legal in Nevada.

Yes, you have a real grasp on the concept of victory Sparky.

223 posted on 02/13/2003 11:49:44 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: MrLeRoy
"What we ask doesn't matter to the Chief Wriggling Officer."

Yep, means about as much to me as it does to a judge. Worth a laugh and little else.

224 posted on 02/13/2003 11:50:54 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
Romper room? I didn't think I was in a libertarian chat room.
225 posted on 02/13/2003 11:51:56 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; toothless; Kerberos; clamper1797; MrLeRoy; Eagle Eye; tacticalogic; tpaine
Somehow, I missed this earlier while I was doing work.

Is it just me, or do you guys get the feeling that nothing is really going to change considering that within 100 posts, some of the "usual suspects" were allowed to basically post subtle flames and got away with it? Then Houmatt comes along and says "ban anyone who wants to legalize drugs".

Personally, I don't care what policy is taken up. I understand the administration's desire to get the nonsense flames by the drug warriors off the main board so that the average new-commer doesn't think this is some pro-big government chat site.

226 posted on 02/13/2003 11:55:08 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: Eagle Eye
No, meth labs are the results of low life individuals who make and sell death and misery for a profit. If pot was legal they would still be making death.
227 posted on 02/13/2003 11:55:13 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Your immaturity and agenda precedes itself.

Thank you for making it obvious for everyone to see.

228 posted on 02/13/2003 11:58:40 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: CWOJackson
Well Skippy, the only problem you have with your little large text morality play is that anyone reading it can go back through this entire thread and look at your humble posts...then laugh their butts off at you.

Does someone of your talents and abilities appreciate the wonderful irony of this post on this particular thread?

229 posted on 02/13/2003 11:58:54 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
Love the tagline.

carry on......

230 posted on 02/13/2003 12:00:44 PM PST by Skooz (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
And having no understanding of the impact of meth labs on communities is adult? LOL!
231 posted on 02/13/2003 12:01:05 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Irony isn't exactly what I think most people who think of after looking at your posts on this thread then reading your little sympathy post.
232 posted on 02/13/2003 12:04:06 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: FreeTally; Hemingway's Ghost; toothless; Kerberos; clamper1797; MrLeRoy; Eagle Eye; tacticalogic; ..
I strongly suggest that the obvious Trolls be IGNORED.
The WOsD topic and especially the ant-WOsD message MUST be seen by those who are interested and not relegated to the smokey-backroom. As some of you know, there is a concerted effort by some WODies to flame enough to get the thread placed into that obscure room. We need NOT to post, reply, to them or even acknowledge their presence.
233 posted on 02/13/2003 12:04:39 PM PST by clamper1797 (Please Do not Feed the Trolls)
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To: Admin Moderator
This thread hasn't been moved to The Smokey Backroom yet? ;-)
234 posted on 02/13/2003 12:05:16 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: CWOJackson
First of all, I didn't spend anything in Nevada. I live in South Carolina and don't really care what Nevadans do vis a vis marijuana decriminalization. To me the Nevada vote was neither a victory nor a setback.

Victory will come when other priorities overwhelm state and federal governments. When government starts suffocating under its own weight and it begins to dawn on them that the WOD is eating too much money it will just disappear. Overnight. And guess what. Nobody will miss it.
235 posted on 02/13/2003 12:06:21 PM PST by jayef
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To: clamper1797
"I strongly suggest that the obvious Trolls be IGNORED."

LOL! You should try your post again without this tag line up front, otherwise most people won't read any further.

236 posted on 02/13/2003 12:06:32 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
You are wrong.

If your logic were sound, then there would be an equivalent amount of hidden/secret alcohol and tobacco still and cigarette factories. But there's not.

The legislature makes one thing illegal, so someone 'creates' something that's legally different. But we don't have a problem with people altering booze and selling it to others because there's no money in it.

Take out the profit incentive and most of the problems of the WoD (street crime, corruption of the political and legal systems, profiteering LEO's, Constitutional problems, ect.) vanish.

But maybe that's not what you want.

237 posted on 02/13/2003 12:06:47 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excessive legislation.)
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To: Kevin Curry
The best thing to do is to wholly ignore these one-trick ponies (one-bong blowhards?), which I decided to do a few days ago.

That didn't seem to last long, LOL

238 posted on 02/13/2003 12:07:29 PM PST by Protagoras
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To: jayef
"To me the Nevada vote was neither a victory nor a setback."

Now there is libertarian thought for you. To the rest of the nation is was a complete ass whopping.

239 posted on 02/13/2003 12:08:09 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
How astute. You've really got it nailed. You'd be surprised at who's running most meth labs these days. Go ride down to any feed and seed store in south Mississippi and take a gander at Farmer Brown. Look like a meth dealer? Look closer.
240 posted on 02/13/2003 12:09:41 PM PST by jayef
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