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USO Canteen FReeper Style ~ TRIBUTE TO THE USS TARAWA (LHA-1)& FReeper Brian Wells ~ January 20 2003
January 20, 2003 | snippy about it

Posted on 01/20/2003 5:03:05 AM PST by snippy_about_it

Our very own FReeper bkwells is deployed on the
USS TARAWA (LHA-1)


Tarawa's Mission
Global events continue to spotlight the requirement to successfully project power from the sea. Tarawa's capabilities make her the world's most formidable amphibious power projection platform. Her primary war fighting mission is to land and sustain United States Marines on any shore during hostilities. A "national asset," the Tarawa's location and readiness are briefed daily to the National Command Authority.

Characteristics,Tarawa Class (This information is derived from US NAVY Fact Files.)

USS Tarawa (LHA-1) Tarawa class, General Purpose Amphibious Warship
Description: Primary landing ships, resembling small aircraft carriers, designed to put troops on hostile shores.
Features: Modern U.S. Navy amphibious assault ships are called upon to perform as primary landing ships for assault operations of Marine expeditionary units. These ships use Landing Craft Air Cushion (LCAC), conventional landing craft and helicopters to move Marine assault forces ashore. In a secondary role, using AV-8B Harrier aircraft and warfare helicopters, these ships perform sea control and limited power projection missions.
Background: Amphibious warships are uniquely designed to support assault from the sea against defended positions ashore. They must be able to sail in harm's way and provide a rapid built-up of combat power ashore in the face of opposition. The United States maintains the largest and most capable amphibious force in the world.

Specs
Builders: Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, Miss.
Power Plant: Two boilers, two geared steam turbines, two shafts, 70,000 total shaft horsepower
Length: 820 feet (249.9 meters)
Beam: 106 feet (31.8 meters)
Displacement: 39,400 tons (40,032 metric tons) full load
Speed: 24 knots (27.6 miles per hour)
Ships:USS Tarawa (LHA 1), San Diego, Calif.
USS Saipan (LHA 2), Norfolk, Va.
USS Belleau Wood (LHA 3), Sasebo, Japan
USS Nassau (LHA 4), Norfolk, Va.
USS Peleliu (LHA 5), San Diego, Calif.
Crew: Ships Company: 82 officers, 882 enlisted an embarked Marine Expeditionary Unit of 1,900 plus
Armament: Two RAM launchers; two Phalanx 20 mm CIWS mount; four 25 mm Mk 38 machine guns; five .50 caliber guns;
Commisioned: May 29, 1976

Aircraft
(Actual mix depends upon mission)
Nine CH-53 Super Stallion helicopters -heavy lift aircraft
Twelve CH-46 Sea Knight helicopters -medium lift aircraft
Four AH-1W Cobra Helicopters -attack aircraft
Six AV-8B Harrier attack aircraft -close air attack and support aircraft
Two UH-1N Iriqouis helicopters -command and control aircraft

Landing Craft
1 LCAC (Landing Craft Air Cushion)-Air cushion craft for transporting, ship-to-shore and across the beach, personnel, weapons, equipment, and cargo of the assault elements of the Marine Air-Ground Task Force.
2 LCU (Landing Craft Utility)-Landing craft are used by amphibious forces to transport equipment and troops to the shore.

Tarawa mission Link



She's a beauty! Eagle of the Sea


A RAM missile being launched from the USS Tarawa



PhalanxClose-In Weapons System-----------Mark 38 ~ 25 mm machine gun system


Marines from 13MEU train for an amphibious assault on a beachhead



Four AV-8B Harriers await launch from the flight deck of the USS Tarawa.



An LCU leaves the welldeck of the Tarawa while two CH-53's commence flight operations off her port side



A CH-153 heavy lift helicopter takes off of the flight deck.



An AH-1W Cobra attack helicopter hovering by in the Persian Gulf.



well deck



USS Tarawa off the coast of Yemen


The Official USS Tarawa Ship's Photo



The Battle of Tarawa ~ History

The Central Pacific's Gilbert Islands were strategically important to the Allies in World War II. Tarawa, an atoll in those islands, was the scene of a major amphibious assault and on of the proudest testaments to valor in U.S. Marine Corps history.

Japan's Rear Admiral Shibasaki Meichi was quoted as saying before the assault that it would take the American forces "a million men and a hundred years" to capture the atoll. The Japanese had backed up this boast with an elite force of almost 5,000 men and heavily fortified the island of Betio in the southwestern corner of the atoll. Since capturing the islands three days after the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Japanese had spent two years positioning coastal defense guns, antiaircraft guns, anti-boat guns, light and heavy machine guns, and an airstrip they could use to strike at allied troops stationed in the area. The atoll was strategically vital to both sides, and the stage was set for one of the bloodiest battles in the Pacific.

The Allies were faced with serious problems in capturing Tarawa. The big coastal guns would keep the Navy guns either under constant fire or at bay, and the Japanese had used sunken ships and other pieces of metal to create obstacles which blocked the avenues of approach from the sea. The approaching craft would have to slow down to maneuver, putting them in prearranged ambush sites where they would be subject to deadly, concentrated fire from fortified positions. The next line of obstacles included a double apron of barbed wire, log barriers, and concrete obstacles which surrounded the island. After breaching these defenses, the Marines would still be faced with the beach itself, where the Japanese had fortified heavy machine guns which created a series of interlocking fields of fire in addition to antipersonnel mines and anti-vehicle mines in the fringing reefs where the boats would have to land. With the added benefit of antiaircraft guns and planes of their own, the defenders were well prepared for any assault.

The Allies had to take Tarawa, however, and on November 19, 1943 the assault began. Faced with the near-impossible odds and hounded from all sides, the Marines made it to the beach; by the last day of battle the Japanese had been forced into the east end of the the three-mile long island. They had prepared a series of fortified positions to fall back on in their retreat, and had defended each one almost to the last man. Those three miles may be some of the longest in Marine Corps history, as they slowly advanced at a terrible price. Organized resistance on Tarawa ceased by 1:30 PM on the third day.

The Battle of Tarawa took 76 hours and cost the lives of 1,020 Marines. The list of Americans wounded was listed as high as 2,296. The cost was much higher for the Japanese defenders- of the 4,386 elite troops on Betio, only 146 were left alive.

Four Marines received the Medal of Honor for their heroism, three of them posthumously. The fourth, Colonel David M. Shoup, Commanding Officer of the 2nd Marines and Betio Island Assault forces, later became the Commandant of the Marine Corps.

USS Tarawa (LHA-1) website



Introducing FReeper Brian Wells (bkwells)

I am married with 2 kids, a boy age 8 and a girl age 4. We have lived in Las Vegas for almost 3 years now.

I am an Air Force brat and have moved around all my life. In fact, when I hit the 10th grade, that was my 8th different school! Graduated from Hirschi High School in Wichita Falls, TX in 1985 and joined the Navy in Feb 1986.

I have been stationed aboard the USS MT WHITNEY (LCC-20), NAS Kingsville TX (Where I met my wife!), the USS CONSTELLATION (CV-64), Guam, Brunswick Maine, and now the USS TARAWA (LHA-1).

I am a Senior Chief Petty Officer (E-8) and my field is Meteorology (AG rating in Navy lingo - Weather Guesser for slang Navy lingo).

My primary job is running the weather office but as with all Navy ships, I have other duties throughout the ship among them:

Operations Department Leading Chief Petty Officer (I'm the senior enlisted man within my department), I am in charge of a Repair Locker during Battle Stations - we fight fires, control flooding, run a denomination station in case of chemical,biological, or nuclear attack, etc.... and I run a duty section when we are inport.

It's more than enough to keep me busy!

Places I've been:

England, Belgium, Portugal, France, Copenhagen, Ft Lauderdale, St Thomas, Nassau, Curacao, Trinidad-Tobago, Acapulco, Vancouver, Hawaii, Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong, Korea, Thailand, Australia (Perth, Sydney, and Darwin), Jebal Ali UAE, Bahrain, and Seychelles.

Sat off the coast of Kuwait Cit, and sat off the coast of Aden Yemen in support of Operation Determined Response after the terrorist bombing of the USS COLE.





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To: tomkow6
Today's FEEBLE attempt at humor:


100% today!!!
ROTFLOL
21 posted on 01/20/2003 5:35:43 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: bkwells
Some pictures of land for the Tarawa crew.


22 posted on 01/20/2003 5:41:06 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Pray for our troops!)
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To: Kathy in Alaska
Todays transportation for you and the Girlz.


23 posted on 01/20/2003 5:47:04 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Oh my, Are we headed to Alcatraz?
24 posted on 01/20/2003 5:48:43 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Pray for our troops!)
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To: All
This Super Bowl should be first-rate

Tampa Bay's Ronde Barber (left) and Oakland coach Bill Callahan celebrate Sunday's wins. (AP)
DMN pro football columnist Rick Gosselin writes that for the first time, the NFL's No. 1 offense will play the No. 1 defense for the NFL title when the Oakland Raiders face the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Super Bowl XXXVII.

Gosselin's Super Bowl keys | More coverage

How 'bout them Raiders?!?!
How 'bout them Bucs?!?!



25 posted on 01/20/2003 5:50:46 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (9 out of 10 Republicans agree: Bush IS a Genius !!)
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To: snippy_about_it
Last widow of a Union veteran in Civil War dies at 93

Associated Press

Published Jan. 20, 2003


BLAINE, Tenn. -- Gertrude Janeway, the last widow of a Union veteran from the Civil War, has died in the three-room log cabin where she lived most of her life. She was 93.
Bedridden for years, she died Friday, more than six decades after the passing of the man she called the love of her life, John Janeway, who married her when he was 81 and she was barely 18.
``She was a special person,'' said the Rev. Leonard Goins, who officiated at her funeral Sunday.
``Gertie, as she was called, had a vision beyond that (cabin) that kept her going. She never had any wavering or doubt in her salvation. She was strong in that,'' he said.
She was to be buried Monday near her husband's slender military tombstone at tiny New Corinth Church cemetery.

An honorary member of the Daughters of Union Veterans of the Civil War, Mrs. Janeway was the last recognized Union widow. She received a $70 check each month from the Veterans Administration.

Still alive is Confederate widow Alberta Martin, 95, of Elba, Ala.

Mrs. Janeway, who lived her whole life in Blaine, about 30 miles north of Knoxville, was born 44 years after the Civil War ended.
In a 1998 interview, she said her husband rarely spoke about the war.
``He says the nighest he ever got to gettin' killed was when they shot a hole through his hat brim,'' she said, but he never told her where that happened.
Her husband was a 19-year-old Grainger County farm boy who ran away to enlist in 1864 after being encouraged by a group of Union horse soldiers that he met on his way to a Blount County grist mill.
He sent his horse home and signed up under the surname January because ``he was afraid his people would come and claim him,'' Mrs. Janeway said.

Two months later, he was captured by Confederates near Athens, Ga. He was later released and rejoined his unit, the 14th Illinois Cavalry. After the war, he spent many years in California before returning home to Tennessee and meeting then 16-year-old Gertrude.
Mrs. Janeway said her mother refused to sign papers to let her marry him before she turned 18. ``So my man says, 'Well, I will wait for her until you won't have to,''' she recalled. ``We sparked for three years.''

She remembered getting married in the middle of a dirt road in 1927 with family and friends gathered around. He bought her the cabin in 1932 and it was there that he died in 1937, at 91, from pneumonia.
``After he died, why it just seemed like a part of me went down under the ground with him,'' she said in the 1998 interview. ``He is the only one I ever had. There wasn't anybody else.''



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Following is a transcribed excerpt from Fox News Sunday, Jan. 19, 2003.





TONY SNOW, FOX NEWS: Good morning from Fox News headquarters in Washington.

U.N. chief weapons inspectors Hans Blix and Mohamed ElBaradei are in Baghdad today for what they describe as a last-ditch effort to avoid war. In a week, they will deliver to the Security Council a summary of the first 60 days of weapons inspections in Iraq.

Anti-war demonstrators took to the streets this weekend in Washington and elsewhere. Tens of thousands of protesters urged the president not to wage war on Iraq. That is not a majority view, however. A new Fox News Opinion Dynamics poll shows President Bush has widespread support to disarm Iraq.

For more, we welcome Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

Mr. Secretary, in a press conference the other day, reporters were pounding you for information about smoking guns and so on, and as you closed the press conference, you made the following comment. I want to play it and then I want to discuss the comment.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD RUMSFELD, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: I honestly believe that the way information is gained is through defectors and through people that are taken out of a country with their families and given a chance to tell the truth. And in the event that information like something approximating a smoking gun is to be found, it will, I suspect, be via that route.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SNOW: Does this mean that as of now the United States has no physical or documentary evidence that Saddam is producing weapons of mass destruction?

RUMSFELD: No. What it means is that the inspections are designed to allow a cooperative country to show what they have. And the idea that inspectors can go in there and discover things and find things, if they were to be that, they would've been named finders or discoverers instead of inspectors.

We know what a proper inspection regime looks like. Kazakhstan opened up, South Africa opened up, other countries, Ukraine opened up, and inspectors went in and said, "Yes, that's what's there."

The Iraqis clearly, they filed a false declaration. They have not allowed -- submitted the names of the scientists that they have been asked to submit. They've not made -- they've not figured out how to explain the difference between what was discovered in the last time, what was shown and, in fact, what they had. There's no explanation for that.

SNOW: OK. So we understand that in 1998 there were a number of things that they had that they still cannot account for and they have not been cooperative. But the question is, do we know exactly what they're producing now, in terms of weapons of mass destruction, and where?

RUMSFELD: Oh, exactly? Goodness no. It's an enormous country.

SNOW: OK, they reason I ask...

RUMSFELD: What we have is a lot of intelligence from our country, from other countries, that leads the United States intelligence community to say that they have a biological weapons program, a chemical weapons program and weapons, and that they have a -- they assess they do not have nuclear weapons but that they do have an active nuclear weapon program.

SNOW: Around the country, we're increasingly hearing -- and I'm hearing it from conservatives, I'm even hearing it from some military people -- some concern that when it comes to presenting a case to the American people, the president does not now have the goods in the sense of saying, "He's building this kind of weapon here."

Do we have the kind of evidence -- for instance, when John Kennedy was talking about the Cuban Missile Crises, we had the satellite photos. Do we have hard evidence of that sort that will be sufficiently persuasive that Americans will say, "All right, let's go"?

RUMSFELD: What we have is a great deal of information about what they have bought and what they have, a good deal of information about their systematic efforts to try to deceive and deny us the ability to know precisely where things are.

They have been dispersing things throughout the country, hiding them underground. They've been taking documentation and distributing it in private homes and the like. People don't do that unless they're trying to hide what they're doing.

SNOW: So the case we have right now is a connect-the-dots case. It is not one where, "They have this cache of weapons here." It is not that clear-cut.

RUMSFELD: If you had that information and you said you had it and you said where it was, it would not be there the next day.

SNOW: One understands that, but also one assumes that if the president were making a speech of that sort, either hostilities would have commenced or would be ready to commence, and this would be sufficient to justify the use of force.

RUMSFELD: Well, you know, it's interesting how the thing gets turned. The burden is not on the United Nations to demonstrate that he has given up his programs. The burden's on Iraq. The vote was 15 to nothing in the U.N. Security Council.

SNOW: Sir, I understand the vagueries of the Security Council, but I'm more interested in what's going on in the United States, because there are a lot of people who are supportive of you and supportive of this administration who are worried that, at this point, that the United States will go in, not find enough to justify it, and all of a sudden the United States will be seen as an aggressor rather than a liberator.

Are you confident that the information we have will be of the sort that, if a war were to commence, that the American people could be proud of it?

RUMSFELD: There's no doubt in my mind but that the intelligence community's information is as I have stated it, and that it is a case that the American people would be comfortable with.

There's always a degree of uncertainty. And let me explain that. If you think of all the effort after September 11th in the Congress, and now with a new commission, to try to find out what happened, what was there that was going on before September 11th that we might have been able to do something?

Now, what we're trying to do here is to connect the dots before the fact, not after the fact. It's easier after the fact, and it's very difficult after (ph) the fact. But we're trying to do it before the fact. And I think we've done a darn good job.

SNOW: But do you think the full picture would emerge only after there's a regime change in Iraq?

RUMSFELD: Oh, until you get into the country and on the ground and are able to talk to everybody and literally go out and find things that he's been hiding, the full picture would -- that's the only time the full picture would be clear.

SNOW: The United Nations -- you mentioned a moment ago that you think things are being stood on their head. The United Nations said to Saddam Hussein, "You need to take all your weapons, you need to put them in a big pile and let the inspectors inspect and not be finders," as you pointed out. But we see Hans Blix saying, "Well, we need to do more inspections," in other words, more attempts to find.

Given the way these inspections are organized right now, is there any chance, in your mind, that they can succeed?

RUMSFELD: Well, I think the -- it depends on what you mean by succeed. I think that...

SNOW: Uncover weapons or weapons development programs.

RUMSFELD: That he's trying to hide?

SNOW: Yes.

RUMSFELD: No, no. I think the test is not that. The test is, is Saddam Hussein cooperating or is he not cooperating? That is what ought to be being measured. That's what the U.N. asked for. That's what the U.N. said. "File a correct declaration, open things up, show the world what you have."

He's not doing that. I mean, you could spend years and years roaming around a country that size trying to find underground tunnels and see where he's located them.

SNOW: So what they're doing right now, in your view, is do not to produce much in the way of results. Is Hans Blix doing this backward?

RUMSFELD: I think what's going on now is useful in that it is testing whether or not the Iraqi regime is going to be cooperative, and we've now gotten several indications that they're not. That is useful to know, and time is running out.

SNOW: That's what I want to get at next. December 8th there was a deadline. He had to turn over the declarations. He did it. In the view of the United States and everybody else, it seems, including Hans Blix, he didn't really do it.

There's a January 27th deadline, that is a 60-day report from the U.N. weapons inspection teams to the Security Council. Does the United States want there to be a deadline on these reports, a deadline that Saddam has to meet, to have full and complete disclosure, or else?

RUMSFELD: That's, of course, a call for the president to make, and he will make the call when he...

SNOW: Well, he says he's running out of patience. He sounds like he's ready for that.

RUMSFELD: He did say it. The president said time is running out. And if the test is, are the Iraqis going to cooperate, that's something you're going to know in a matter of weeks, not in months or years. You're going to be able to tell whether or not they're cooperating, and that judgment call will just have to be made.

SNOW: There's been a suggestion that the United States or the U.N. simply say, "OK, no more inspections, we're not going to run around the country, you pile up the stuff right now and that's it." Would that be an effective way to cull Saddam's bluff?

RUMSFELD: That's what the U.N....

SNOW: No, no, no...

RUMSFELD: ... Security Council resolution was.

(LAUGHTER)

That's exactly what it was. It said, "All right, this is your last, final chance. You stand in material breach. A false declaration would be a further material breach. A lack of cooperation would be still another material breach," and that is where we've been for the past weeks.

SNOW: And yet, we find a situation now where the Germans, including somebody with whom you've met, the German defense minister, said there's no way we are going to support any kind of an act of war against Saddam Hussein, even if it comes to a second resolution in the U.N. You've got the French expressing skepticism. You have the Russians expressing skepticism.

Do you think the United States is going to have to go with a coalition of the willing, as opposed to the United Nations?

RUMSFELD: Only time will tell, but there is a sizable coalition of the willing that's already onboard, with or without a second resolution from the United Nations.

I think that what one has to understand is this: The president has not made a final decision. He's made a decision that Saddam Hussein should be disarmed. His hope is that it can be done through peaceful means. His hope, if it can't, is that Saddam Hussein will leave the country.

He has said, however, that he will be disarmed and, if necessary, he will use a coalition of the willing. And there are a lot of countries lined up.

SNOW: You've met Saddam Hussein. Do you seriously think this is a guy who will pack up and go someplace else and live in a luxurious exile?

RUMSFELD: I hope so. I would certainly prefer it.

SNOW: Well, you have your hopes. What does your gut telling you based on your face-to-face experience with him?

RUMSFELD: Oh, I'm not someone who meets a person and can then turn around and say, "Gee, that's the kind of person who's going to cut and run."

SNOW: Well, you've met him a couple of times. You've got some instincts on him.

RUMSFELD: That's true. But I think that there's at least a possibility. His neighboring states are in a process now of trying to avoid a conflict there by having him leave the country. It would be a good thing for the world if he left.

SNOW: OK. Now, Iraq is continuing to fire away at our jets. Is that an act of war?

RUMSFELD: It certainly is not an act of peace or an act of cooperation. The coalition forces are -- U.K. planes and our air crews are constantly subjected to being fired at by the Iraqis. It's been going on for some years now. It's the only place in the world where we're being fired at, as a matter of fact, on a regular basis, except for Afghanistan.

SNOW: So are we already at war?

RUMSFELD: Well, technically the state of war that began in 1991 has never ended. I mean, that has still -- there's currently a state of war with Iraq that has not ended.

SNOW: OK, let's talk about some of the things that people have discussed. First, you mentioned before you'd like him to go away. There is also a rumor that the Saudis are trying to put together some sort of military action.

The United States has put together some psychological operations. We have, it's been reported, contacted people in the Saudi military saying, "You know what? You ought to come to our side and you ought to fight this guy." Are we having any success there? Are we hearing back?

RUMSFELD: There are a great many things going on in the country, outside the country, by neighboring countries. And since war is your last choice, not your first choice, it clearly is the right thing to be doing, to encourage those types of things so that there's a possibility that the regime will collapse and be gone.

SNOW: Is the Revolutionary Guard outside of Baghdad loyal to Saddam?

RUMSFELD: Well, you know, there will be a test of that if he doesn't start cooperating, and we'll see. There's no question but that there are Iraqi -- well, if you go back to 1991, there was something like 70,000 or 80,000 soldiers surrendered in a matter of a few days. A number of them surrendered to a journalist who didn't even have a gun.

This is a repressive, vicious dictator. The people there are, in a major sense, hostages to that vicious regime.

SNOW: So you think he'll fall if there's action?

RUMSFELD: I think that war is always unpredictable.

SNOW: So you can't predict the outcome if we get involved?

RUMSFELD: I can predict that we'll win, and I can predict that the regime will go if force has to be used. How that will happen, how that will play out is not knowable.

SNOW: One of the -- I want to show a picture, actually a Department of Defense picture. It shows a mosque in the middle of an ammunition dump. You're not going to be able to see that much at home, but there is a mosque in there, sort of in the -- there you go, there's the mosque.

Gives you some...

RUMSFELD: This is just part of a pattern. The Iraqi regime puts military capabilities -- airplanes, tanks, ammunition -- in direct proximity to schools and hospitals and orphanages and mosques. And now he's calling for human shields, which of course is also a violation of international law.

SNOW: Does this mean that if there were military action, in fact there could be considerable civilian casualties, despite our best technology and efforts?

RUMSFELD: It means that that is his hope.

RUMSFELD: His hope is that there will be. And we will do everything humanly possible to avoid it.

SNOW: Is this one of the reasons that there will be imbedded reporters -- reporters imbedded, is that the American people, if it does come to war, will be able to get a pretty good idea of what's happening, and therefore, if nothing else, it provides a counter to Iraqi propaganda?

RUMSFELD: We have decided that, in the event of a conflict, we will have media people from the United States and elsewhere imbedded in the forces that are engaged. You're right. It would have that effect.

The amazing thing to me is, if you live in a small town, and Joe is a liar, and he lies day after day after day after day, and then someone comes up to you and says, "Gee, Joe just told me this," he wouldn't say that. He'd say, "Joe, the liar, just told me this, therefore don't believe it."

But Saddam Hussein lies every single day for years, and it's never said that way. It's carried off the waves of -- all over the world, "Saddam Hussein this, and the Iraqis that," even though they are consistent, professional, successful liars.

SNOW: Do you think the threat of military force has been effective, both in coalescing international opposition to Saddam Hussein and changing the dynamic within?

RUMSFELD: Oh my goodness, yes. I mean, we went on for years without inspectors in there. We went with years, people not paying any attention to Iraq. And until the president said, "Look, this is a very serious problem, this is a danger to the world" -- and indeed it is -- then the U.N. acted. Now the inspectors are in there.

The flow of forces we've seen is supporting the diplomacy. Without question, we would not be getting any of the things that have happened absent the real threat of military force.

SNOW: That being the case, why did we take the threat or the possibility of military force off the table in dealing with North Korea? Could that not also have the same kind of...

RUMSFELD: All options are still on the table with North Korea.

SNOW: So we have not taken military option off?

RUMSFELD: The president said when he was there, correctly, that the United States has no intention of invading North Korea. This is just a fact.

And the implication that the United States has, you know, done something along the lines that you've described, I think, probably misses the point. He did say that.

SNOW: But military force?

RUMSFELD: Well, my goodness, we've had robust military capabilities there for 50 years. We have a strong alliance with South Korea. We have troops, we have planes, we have ships. It's been an effective deterrent for 50 years, and it is a deterrent today, and it will be prospectively.

SNOW: And it is an option?

RUMSFELD: Look, I'm not going to say that. I quote the president. The president said exactly what he said. He said we have no plans to invade North Korea. The idea of doing that is -- he correctly stated that.

But does that mean that the United States or South Korea would take an attack from North Korea and not respond? Of course not.

SNOW: All right. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, thanks for joining us.

RUMSFELD: Thank you.
28 posted on 01/20/2003 6:07:42 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (Rudy Guiliani Fer Attorney General...NOW!!!)
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29 posted on 01/20/2003 6:45:57 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Mudboy Slim
Good Morning, MUD!
I read on another thread that you walked amongst the Philistines over the weekend...
I'm glad to see you survived!
31 posted on 01/20/2003 6:48:34 AM PST by HiJinx (Off to earn my pay, now.)
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32 posted on 01/20/2003 7:20:28 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: snippy_about_it
Best of Luck to Brian Wells. I spent seven months on the Tarawa and have some very fond memories of her!

Semper Fi!

TS

33 posted on 01/20/2003 7:20:48 AM PST by The Shrew
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in Afghanistan

34 posted on 01/20/2003 7:31:10 AM PST by Kathy in Alaska (God Bless the USA and our Military who protect us all)
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Duty ~ Honor ~ Country

Click above to visit "A Day in the Life of President Bush"

35 posted on 01/20/2003 7:33:12 AM PST by Kathy in Alaska (God Bless the USA and our Military who protect us all)
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To: The Shrew
TS, Thank you for your service. Maybe you could help us out and gives ideas for what to put in the care packages. What would be fun to get while your out at sea?
36 posted on 01/20/2003 7:33:28 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Pray for our troops!)
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A PRAYER OF PROTECTION

The light of God surround you
The love of God enfold you
The power of God protect you
The presence of God watch over you
Wherever you are,God is,
And all is well.
Amen.

.

Bless This House



Bless this house O Lord we pray;
Make it safe by night and day;
Bless these walls so firm and stout,
Keeping want and trouble out:
Bless the roof and chimneys tall,
Let thy peace lie over all;
Bless this door, that it may prove
ever open to joy and love.


Bless these windows shining bright,
Letting in God's heav'nly light;
Bless the hearth a'blazing there,
with smoke ascending like a prayer;
Bless the folk who dwell within,
keep them pure and free from sin;
Bless us all that we may be
Fit O Lord to dwell with thee;
Bless us all that one day we
May dwell O Lord with thee.


.

(Click on praying hands above,
or on banner at the top to hear the music)


37 posted on 01/20/2003 7:35:28 AM PST by Kathy in Alaska (God Bless the USA and our Military who protect us all)
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Canteen Blessing for the Troops. Thank you, ms feather.
38 posted on 01/20/2003 7:39:55 AM PST by Kathy in Alaska (God Bless the USA and our Military who protect us all)
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To: snippy_about_it
Well, I used to send Tabasco and other flavorings to guys during Desert Storm! They love anything that makes the food taste better! However, spices are specifically excluded! So, I would think gift sets of hot sauces, etc. would be one item that might be welcome!

Packed heavily in bubble wrap of course!

Regards,

TS

39 posted on 01/20/2003 7:42:56 AM PST by The Shrew
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To: tomkow6
Today's Forecast Mon 20 Jan 2003 03:00 AM CST

Cloudy

Low 4°F

High 20°F


Yikes! FOUR degrees? Wow...
Weather Update

A brief brush with balmy weather: After suffering through the coldest weather of the season last week, North Texas will enjoy a brief, spring-like respite for the Martin Luther King Jr.

Currently  WFAA 5-Day outlook (Watch the video forecast)
Clear
Temp: 53
Humidity: 96 %
Barometric: 30.06  in.
Wind: S 16  mph
Monday

Hi 71
Lo 44

Mostly Clear
Tuesday

Hi 54
Lo 35

Mostly Cloudy
Wednesday

Hi 58
Lo 32

Mostly Cloudy
Thursday

Hi 44
Lo 28

Partly Cloudy
Friday

Hi 50
Lo 32

Partly Clear

I'll be fixin' some Bar-B-Q chicken later on today !
40 posted on 01/20/2003 7:50:24 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (9 out of 10 Republicans agree: Bush IS a Genius !!)
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