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1 posted on 01/10/2003 2:23:55 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Start taking names today. When these folks run again, they run on their own money. The party should not extend to them one red cent. They party should instead run true conservatives to compete with them. And they party should tell their constituants why.

Top of the list? Johnny Dumb Lately McCain.

2 posted on 01/10/2003 2:26:23 AM PST by DoughtyOne ( Hillary Vader is at it again.)
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"I would like to see further tax cuts targeted toward middle- to lower-income taxpayers who would be likely to put the money back into the economy," she said.

Would the "wealthy" put their money under in the mattress? Where do these people learn their economics?

3 posted on 01/10/2003 2:29:04 AM PST by Straight Vermonter
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Moderate Republicans....YUK!

Orrin Hatch cut a deal with Leahy to give him 50% of the udicial Committee budget when the Democrats were only entitled to 33%!!!! Moderate Republicans...YUK!!

Senator Frist needs to do something to Hatch!! And we need to do something about Chaffee. Anyone have his phone number??

4 posted on 01/10/2003 2:29:27 AM PST by Claire Voyant
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We need some folks calling for STRONGER measures - like spending reductions.
5 posted on 01/10/2003 2:31:45 AM PST by The Raven (Is this here because of Chairman's note to JimRob?)
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"I can't see giving away any more of our revenues, which we're doing in tax cuts."

I'm glad you put this quote in bold, Kattracks.
It shows the unabashed audacity & utter contempt some of these elected representatives have for the people of this country.

7 posted on 01/10/2003 2:36:25 AM PST by jla
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This was to be expected.

Senator McCosnowchaff will have an extraordinate amount of power over the next couple of years.
11 posted on 01/10/2003 2:48:00 AM PST by kidd
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"I would like to see further tax cuts targeted toward middle- to lower-income taxpayers who would be likely to put the money back into the economy," she said.

A lot of middle class Americans have their savings in CDs. Before the GWB presidency, there were rates to be had at over 6%. Now, even the good ones are just a shade over 4%. That's a 50% loss in interest when CDs are renewed. It's devestating to Seniors who use that interest in order to balance their budgets or provide some extra income for non-essentials.

So, logic would be that the tax cut should be on CD interest...if it's really meant to help middle class Americans who have suffered with the Bush economy.

As far as any cuts, though. The last one didn't save the economy. The bracket reductions are still in place. I think it might be an economic mistake to cut more taxes when government expenditures are going up.

12 posted on 01/10/2003 2:48:13 AM PST by grania
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And the Demopubs surface their ugly heads once again.
13 posted on 01/10/2003 2:48:35 AM PST by gulfcoast6
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Whatever happened to LOYALTY? And putting the ego trips, the strutting around for the TV cameras to impress your constituents, aside for a few crucial months?

And that smug little, tousled_hair blowing in his face, Chaffee twit from Rhode Island? Disgusting, palling around on TV with Diana Finestein.

18 posted on 01/10/2003 2:59:25 AM PST by dennisw (http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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I guess the only thing I don't get about this is something I read somewhere about "all bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House"...
or something like that...
21 posted on 01/10/2003 3:12:11 AM PST by djf
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"My fears have been borne out," said Chafee, who voted against Bush's $1.35trillion tax cut in 2001 because he feared it would bust the federal budget. "I can't see giving away any more of our revenues, which we're doing in tax cuts."

OUR revenues?? Sheeeeeeesh!

I'm ready to join a tea party if anyone is organizing one.

24 posted on 01/10/2003 3:21:50 AM PST by nightdriver
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This is a Republican senator saying government revenue is their (the Senator's) money and they are not going to "give it away." The Republican Party has become a horror show virtually on par with the Democrats. American politics is hopeless. It's us against them.
31 posted on 01/10/2003 3:40:10 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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""My fears have been borne out," said Chafee, who voted against Bush's $1.35trillion tax cut in 2001 because he feared it would bust the federal budget. "I can't see giving away any more of our revenues, which we're doing in tax cuts."

Hey, Chafee, you idiot................it isn't YOUR money; they aren't YOUR revenues, you damned fool.

32 posted on 01/10/2003 3:46:15 AM PST by RightOnline
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"I would like to see further tax cuts targeted toward middle- to lower-income taxpayers who would be likely to put the money back into the economy," she said."

The top 50% of taxpayers are paying 96% of the taxes. So, how can tax cuts be targeted toward lower income taxpayers when they aren't paying any income taxes to begin with? And the middle income taxpayers are the ones which the Dems are calling the "Rich". Why is it Washington NEVER talks about cutting spending like every other business or economic entity has to when times are lean? Four years ago under Clinton, HUD admitted it couldn't account for a billion dollars of its budget. The Dept of Education couldn't account for $500 million. It all just disappeared. With outrages like that you can't tell me that there isn't billions in spending which couldn't be cut.

33 posted on 01/10/2003 3:47:03 AM PST by joebuck
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Everyone should cool it. Bush has faced this dilemma before--and won. He has the State of the Union speech on the 28th to make his case and put a fire under foot-draggers. I predict Snow and Collins will be on board. These are early noises--some moderate demz will see the light as well. Bush will be relentless and once his war is off the ground and he is victorious--no one in the Senate would want to oppose him. Besides, he can attach this bill to the Budget proposal and it can be passed with 51 votes with no fear of a filibuster.
34 posted on 01/10/2003 4:02:59 AM PST by ultima ratio
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Is anyone really surprised by this move? Do you remember the four New England Socialist Republicans who voted with the Democraps and failed to override Billy Clintoon's veto of the ban on Partial Brith Abortion by one vote?

They were: SNOWE, COLLINS, CHAFFEE (the old man of junior now holding the seat), and Scarlet Letter JEFFORDS!
36 posted on 01/10/2003 4:14:27 AM PST by leprechaun9
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Chafee and Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) announced legislation to block scheduled reductions in the top income tax rate as long as the government runs a budget deficit.

Four other Republican senators - Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe of Maine, John McCain of Arizona and George Voinovich of Ohio - also criticized the Bush plan.

Collins, who supports parts of Bush's plan, said his proposal to eliminate taxes on stock dividends - the heart of the Bush plan - "deserves further scrutiny."

The folks who elect these "J. Worthington Foulmouths" should remember these "nattering nabobs" the next election cycle, and give them the "right foot of fellowship" right out of the Senate.

37 posted on 01/10/2003 4:15:13 AM PST by VOYAGER
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Does The Media Ever Lie About The Economy?

"Bush Defends his $670 Billion Tax-Cutting Plan"-- AP.

Ah, don't you just love headlines like that? You'd think, from this, the President was some sort of criminal defendant, a la, 'President Bush, facing a 10-count criminal indictment for his role in a wide-ranging conspiracy to provide tax cuts prosecutors say are for the rich, defended himself in court today...' Well, you get the picture.

So, Democrats say we're in the middle of a deep depression (sure the economy the past 12 months grew by 3% and unemployment averaged 5.7% but that doesn't count because there's a Republican in the White House, which means unless the economy is growing by 5%, no 7%, no 8%, minimum, and unemployment is 1%, max, well, then, sorry Charlie, it's a deep depression -- so says Dan Rather. For Democrat presidents, the economy is officially booming unless it's SHRINKING by 5% or more and unemployment tops 25% -- see FDR and Jimmy Carter).

But, wait a minute, didn't this 'recession' or 'depression' or 'whatever' begin on Clinton's watch? (Commerce Dept. figures show the economy heading south throughout 2000 and had already slipped into recession by the time Bush took office).

What a dumb question. You still don't 'get it', do you? How many times must Dan Rather tell you?

Okay, one more time: If there's a Democrat in the White House, the economy is always booming, even if it's not, and everyone is prospering, even if they're not. Heck, ever notice how the 'homeless' magically disappear when there's a Democrat in the White House? Why, 3,000,000 homeless people suffering under Reagan each found custom dream homes and French Chateaus near the ocean as soon as Clinton became president. Poof! No more homeless problem.

Then, no sooner had heartless Bush took office, they were back -- back on the streets! But alas! now the number is 4,000,000, or 8,000,000 or whatever. (See the New York Times' special series, "If you vote Republican you'll be homeless and jobless and earth will burn up by Global Warming").

This GOP Prez=Depression/Dem Prez=Prosperity principle is how the booming Reagan 80s are now the days of soup kitchens, swelling unemployment, burgeoning bankruptcy, plummeting stock prices, impoverishment and homelessness -- oh those horrible, miserable, dreadful Reagan years! The Clinton 90s? Bubba, thankfully, ended the 12-year Reagan/Bush economic 'slump.'

And -- get this -- he did it even before he became "president." How so? Check this out: From June through December of '92, when Bubba spoke of "the worst economy in 50 years," the economy was actually sizzling at 4.1% GDP growth. So what was the media saying during this? The CBS "Evening News" with Dan Rather groused endlessly about the 'the faltering Bush economy,' and oh how much America needs Bubba to fix it. ABC's "World News Tonight" with Peter Jennings hammered away every night at the 'flagging Bush economy,' and oh how much America needs Bubba to fix it. The NBC "Nightly News" with Tom Brokaw became a series of nightly symposia on the 'ailing Bush economy,' and oh how much America needs Bubba to fix it.

Was the media lying, then? No, of course not! I'm stunned you'd even suggest such a thing -- shame on you. No, here's what really happened: The economy, back then, was mired in deep recession, even while growing because (sheesh, I thought I already 'splained this!) there was a Republican in the White House, and, sorry Charlie, but 4.1% won't cut the mustard -- unless there's a Democrat in the White House, in which 4.1% becomes dazzling proof the economy's booming. Remember: Anything less than 8% growth, under a Republican, equals recession; anything above - 5% negative growth, under a Democrat, equals robust economic recovery.

Bearing this in mind, since Dan Rather, we know, is always right, that nothing good can ever come from Republicans, then the solid 4.1% growth rate on Bush's watch must have been -- had to be! -- the Bubba-Rebound!

I know, I know, you probably think I'm just yanking your chain, so let me hereby present the (smoking gun) evidence.

Under the heading, Rebounding economy seen as boost, the Associated Press, days before the '96 Clinton re-election, wrote this: "All of a sudden, the 'Clinton crunch' that Bob Dole and the Republicans have been complaining about seems to be turning into the 'Clinton rebound...'...business activity has picked up speed...gross domestic product, the broadest measure of economic health rebounded to a..." 6% growth rate? No. 5%? Nope. 4%? You're getting warmer. 3%? Answer: 2.8% in the first quarter! Wow!

What was GDP growth in the third quarter '96? Are you sitting down? (Drum roll, please?): A whopping, sizzling, booming 2.2%! The press celebrated it as good news for Clinton.

Now, compare that with 3.9% third quarter growth in '92 (under Bush the elder) -- when the media talked endlessly about the ailing/flagging/faltering Bush economy.

Keep that in mind next time a report comes out and you hear how gawd-awful our economy is doing. Chances are, the media's up to its old tricks.

Question: How badly do Democrats want the economy to tank for '04? Well, bad enough to let the cat out of the bag.

Washington Post reporter Terry M. Neal on Thursday wrote "that while there has been much focus on President Bush's tax-cut plan, Democratic critics are hoping for one scenario: By the 2004 election it will be clear that the tax cuts have done little to help the faltering economy, while driving up deficits and derailing future economic stability. This anticipation is at least part of the explanation for why so many Democrats are lining up to challenge a president who at this point looks unbeatable."

Well, my friends, there you have it.

The Democrats are hoping for the worst, all to win the back the White House '04. They can give a lick about the country -- winning elections is paramount.

Remember *that* next time you hear them gripe about somebody questioning their "patriotism."

No Smoking Gun!

Meanwhile, chief U.N. 'Smoking Guns' inspector Hans Blix said Thursday he has yet to find any, er, 'smoking gun' in Iraq.

Speaking to reporters in New York before briefing the U.N. Smoking Guns Security Council, he noted that "we have now been there for some two months and been covering the country in ever wider sweeps and we haven't found any smoking guns."

His partner, chief nuclear inspector Mohamed Elbaradei, also fielding questions, was asked if he'd seen any smoking gun. "No, so far, I've seen no smoking gun. Absolutely no smoking gun."

Gunter Pleuger, U.N. German ambassador, told reporters after the briefing he'd seen not a hint of a smoking gun. "There's no evidence of a smoking gun, near as I can tell."

Critics say that perhaps if Blix and the boys spent more time in Baghdad and less time in New York, they'd have more luck.

Besides, the Empire State is the last place I would expect any smoking gun anyway, given the state's tough gun control laws. Heck, you'd be hard pressed to find even a cigarette with Michael Boomberg as Mayor.

In Baghdad, Iraqi officials seized on the news, noting that Iraq, like New York, has very strict gun control laws, so that no one should be surprised no smoking gun had been found. "We told you we had no smoking gun," said a gleeful Gen. Hossam Mohammed Amin, Iraq's chief liaison officer to the U.N. Monitoring, Verification and Inspection of Smoking Guns Commission (UNMOVISGC).

The General added that Sarah Brady, fierce gun control advocate who heads the Brady Center to Prevent Smoking Gun Violence, had been a personal inspiration to him.

"We even plan on holding our very own Million Mom March here in Baghdad next month -- that shows you how much we're against smoking gun violence!" Amin said, beaming with pride. "President Saddam is so committed to fighting smoking gun violence, that nominees to the bench must pass a strict 'no-smoking-gun' litmus test. We've just finished setting up local Million Mom chapters throughout Iraq and marchers will form a human shield to stop evil Bush from invading Iraq!"

In Washington, the Brady Center Thursday issued a press release, praising Saddam for his commitment to fighting smoking gun violence.

"With the coming Million Mom March in Baghdad, we strongly urge Bush to postpone any invasion, if only to avoid civilian casualties," said the release.

Kidding aside, all the pieces in Bush's plan are neatly falling into place.

Bush set out to...

--Prove how useless these weapons inspectors can be.
--While Saddam plays cat-and-mouse with inspectors in Baghdad, rapidly build up our force strength in the region.
--Assemble an anti-Saddam coalition -- i.e., 'coalition of willing nations.'
--Give Saddam enough rope to hang himself.

They don't call it Strategery for nothin'.

Great job, Mr. President.

Anyway, that's...

My two cents...
"JohnHuang2"


41 posted on 01/10/2003 4:34:17 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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"I would like to see further tax cuts targeted toward middle- to lower-income taxpayers who would be likely to put the money back into the economy," [Collins] said.

Oh, the ARROGANCE of this! She likes the idea of giving back the people their OWN money, as long as she approves of what she thinks they will do with it! What business is it of hers?

43 posted on 01/10/2003 4:38:10 AM PST by nepdap
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RINOs are worse than democrats. They need replacing in every primary.
48 posted on 01/10/2003 4:49:25 AM PST by LibKill (In your heart you know I'm right.)
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