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OHIO STATE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS

Posted on 01/03/2003 9:20:40 PM PST by ItsBacon

Edited on 01/03/2003 9:27:16 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

31-24 after 2 overtimes


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Florida; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: buckeyes; nationalchamps
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To: Cap'n Crunch
And the pass interference call in regulation time against the OSU DB was pathetic and Fouts was the one saying "you have to call that, even if it wasn't that bad."

Do you mean the one where Gamble caught himself by tugging on the UM reciever's jersey after the receiver shoved off?

281 posted on 01/04/2003 7:29:34 AM PST by lepton
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To: lepton
Everyone keeps talking about all of the missed calls and bad calls. There were several against both teams. Ohio State won the game for 3 reasons:
1. They played their game, averaging yds 191.3 rushing and 173.2 yds passing and got 145 yds rushing and 122 yds passing last night while playing conservative and nursing a lead.
2. They kept Miami from playing their game, averaging 284.2 yds passing and 181.6 yds rushing, but limited to 304 yds passing and 65 yds rushing last night. (Oddly enough, both teams were held to almost exactly 100 yds less than their average. This, too, favored Buckeye-style football.)
3. While each team had two interceptions, Miami lost three fumbles (compared to OSU's none). Also, Miami had three consecutive drives ended by Ken Dorsey turnovers in the first half. Mistakes cost Miami more than the over/under of the blown calls. That's not what a national champion does. To be fair, OSU had poor passing stats (7-21-0-2), but everyone knew going in that this was OSU's defense vs. Miami's offense.

BTW, would those saying that the penalties cost Miami the game please explain why OSU was called for 3 more penalties than Miami was?

282 posted on 01/04/2003 7:30:10 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: The Coopster
Please. Miami got what it deserves.

Yep... and Columbus, OH would be on fire whether they won or lost, anyway. ;^)

283 posted on 01/04/2003 7:31:38 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: panther33
However, the bottom line is that Ohio State outplayed Miami, and hard work always pays off

As much as I hate to admit it(Go Blue)thats true. OSU's QB, while the numbers may not have been great, should be on any NFL teams top 5 list. He's got the heart of a lion(and the Lions could use a player with a spine). Finally a good bowl game among blowouts. Congrats OSU, see you in the "big house" next year. Still hate the BCS though, rather see a playoff with fewer regular season games and better regular season matchups.

284 posted on 01/04/2003 7:34:22 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo
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To: Teacher317
LOL! You win the award for quote of the day. Please don't be offended if I use it at the pub this evening....
285 posted on 01/04/2003 7:35:59 AM PST by The Coopster
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To: lavrenti
Winslow is going to be better than his old man, I tell you.

Winslow was darn near unstoppable. Nearly all of Miami's clutch offense.

286 posted on 01/04/2003 7:36:22 AM PST by lepton
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To: Physicist
Miami got hosed. No way was that pass interference in the first overtime. The game should have ended there.
It was both pass interference and defensive holding, either means first down OSU. Miami caught a break late in regulation when Gamble was held on 3rd down (the replay showed his shirt pulling away in the DBs hand and I don't think it was due to magnetism) on a pattern and there was no call. The Buckeyes get the call there and they run out the clock to win 17-14.

-Eric

287 posted on 01/04/2003 7:41:05 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: hole_n_one
There is no such a thing as "holding-pass interference"

It's one or the other with seperate and distinct penalties imposed for each infraction.

Holding a receiver before the ball is thrown is defensive holding, five yards and an automatic first down. Pass interference is touching the receiver except as part of a move towards the ball. It's a more severe infraction that will cancel out the holding call. Both happened on that play.

-Eric

288 posted on 01/04/2003 7:43:58 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: hole_n_one
Why did it take Porter so long to toss his flag?

Because they weren't calling holding generally...but couldn't let the game be decided on a such a blatant violation. This set up the game to be decided based on play, not officiating.

289 posted on 01/04/2003 7:44:13 AM PST by lepton
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To: lepton; dubyaismypresident
The Big 10 is very very tough. 5-2 in the Bowls.

It was rather interesting to hear all of the pundits say that the Big12, the Big East, and the SEC were all stronger conferences than the BigTen when the BigTen had 4 teams ranked in the top 11 before the bowls. No other conference had more than 2.

Even after the bowls, they had 3 of the top 9 (1st, 8th, and 9th). Only the Big12 could match that (5th, 6th, and 7th). The others only had one each, with the PAC-10 taking the final spot.

290 posted on 01/04/2003 7:46:11 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: BUSHdude2000
and the announcer said it was a bad call.

This was the same Announcer that thought MacGahee might have been out of bounds on his TD run...not even close. MacGahee finally smoked it.

291 posted on 01/04/2003 7:47:48 AM PST by lepton
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To: section9
Are they sure it wasn't more than ligament damage? That was a brutal replay to watch.
292 posted on 01/04/2003 7:49:45 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: Prentice
The non- Keith commentator was one of Winslows' (Miami tight end) fathers' best friends and teammates. He was saying garbage cause his emotions caught him rooting for his friend's team. Very unprofessional.
The worst thing I ever saw in this regard was when ABC(?) assigned Bob Griese to the team covering an Ohio State - Mis***gan game where his son was QBing for the Wolverthings. We had to turn off the sound and turn on the radio in the bar, it was so bad.

-Eric

293 posted on 01/04/2003 7:50:18 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: Teacher317
Everyone keeps talking about all of the missed calls and bad calls. There were several against both teams.

That was indeed my point. By and large the officials did not call holding the whole game...which was why Dorsey stopped being sacked two out of three plays. spotting at the end of plays was less than perfect generally (though nowhere near as ridiculous as in the USC Iowa game). The officials mostly just let them play.

294 posted on 01/04/2003 7:52:10 AM PST by lepton
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To: BUSHdude2000
I've watched my last college football game as a result of this game. How ridiculous for these kids to bust their asses and WIN the game, to have it taken away by a senile old bastard who will be bagging groceries until the next football season starts. The referee closest to the play called it incomplete, they even drew an "X" on the guy during the replay and the announcer said it was a bad call. Watching this game was a waste of time when the result ends up flawed.

Whine. Moan. As if there were no other blown calls. As if there is no human element in sports officiating throughout the century. As if the play led immediately to an OSU victory. Miami could have still won. They didn't. They couldn't score again. You're going to give up on the game of College Football because of one mistaken call that did not directly lead to your team losing?

OSU: 14-0, National Champs.

295 posted on 01/04/2003 7:52:45 AM PST by B. Rabbit
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To: for-q-clinton
I suspect the same goes for my beloved Browns.
Hopefully Butch Davis will take out any lingering frustrations on the Squealers and one of The Teams Butch Built will carry on. >:)

-Eric

296 posted on 01/04/2003 7:53:57 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: E Rocc
Miami caught a break late in regulation when Gamble was held on 3rd down (the replay showed his shirt pulling away in the DBs hand and I don't think it was due to magnetism) on a pattern and there was no call

Is that the one that Gamble also actually caught the ball, came down in-bounds, and the official called him out?

297 posted on 01/04/2003 7:55:24 AM PST by lepton
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To: lepton
Miami caught a break late in regulation when Gamble was held on 3rd down (the replay showed his shirt pulling away in the DBs hand and I don't think it was due to magnetism) on a pattern and there was no call

Is that the one that Gamble also actually caught the ball, came down in-bounds, and the official called him out?

No, third down with about two minutes left. If we're thinking about the same play I thought he was out of bounds too.

-Eric

298 posted on 01/04/2003 8:07:04 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: lepton
No Big-10 team was going to win in the Orange bowl against a reasonably good team. Too hot and muggy. Tempe was in the low 60s with low humidity...OSU got a fair shake with the weather.

Oh, please. Now you're reaching for them. The weather? We're talking about a 14-0 team that started its season back in August. Playing football in Columbus during late summer-early fall isn't exactly paradise, either. Ever been there then? Its like the weather in DC, only 400 miles west.

If anything, the weather should have helped Miami. They're the fair-weather location, after all. The Bucks play in places like Madison and Ann Arbor in late fall. They like 'em cold up there...

299 posted on 01/04/2003 8:10:50 AM PST by chimera
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To: ItsBacon
Bump for later BUCKEYE Gloating

14-0
300 posted on 01/04/2003 8:13:36 AM PST by WhiteGuy
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