Report on Ellen Ratner's "Dead Americans" Comment

special to FreeRepublic ^ | 2 January 2003 | Congressman Billybob (J. Armor, Esq.)

[Congressman Billybob]

My comments are in the thread. Have at it, my friends.

[Cincinatus]

Actually, most of the Democrats on the Hill hope for the same thing. They're just not stupid enough to say it aloud on TV.

[RippleFire]

BTTT

[copycat]

It's one thing to hope the President gaffes by saying something stupid like George I's comment about grocery checkouts. It's quite another to hope he fails miserably by getting Americans killed or tanking the economy.

Today's Dems (led by the clintons) are guilty of placing personal political power above the national interest.

[Snardius]

Ratner is clearly looking for the same result politically, for Bush that Johnson suffered from Vietnam. How many American dead did it take for Johnson to decline to run?

[RightOnline]

Anyone who understands the liberal mindset and has been up against them for any length of time knows exactly what this wench meant. If you think for a second that she'd bat an eye if thousands of Americans died just for the chance for the Democrats to regain power............think again.

[OldFriend]

It is clear that RATner said what every other demonrat is thinking and hoping. That the war goes badly, the economy suffers, and Americans are hurting. Somehow in their evil state of mind they think that somehow this is going to help them regain power.

We suspected that was their hope but now we have no more delusions that there are any honorable dems. Not a one has criticized RATner or Murray bin laden.

[stylin_geek]

I would argue that the only way the Democrats can make effective political use of a failure in war is massive American casualities. This, then, is not stretching her statement, this is taking it to its logical conclusion.

[Robert DeLong]

I disagree with your assessment. While those may certainly be considered mess ups, they are not the kind of mess ups that will cause Bush to lose the war which can only be lost the same way Vietnam was lost, public sentiment against the war. I.E. large numbers of body bags being returned.

[Michael_S]

To get upset with this statement or try to stretch it into something it is not is a bit much.

It certainly is not. Time and time again the demorcraps have shown they would rather see Americans Suffer rather than not regain their power.

They wish for
a bad economy,
racial problems,
a lost war,
oil shortages etc....
Just so they can have issues.

The real shame is they never fix the problems, they just need the issues.

[PGalt]

Keep the heat on if you get the chance. The war we are fighting overseas is the same war we are fighting at home...only on a different level...collectivists/criminals that hate America's freedom/individual rights.

[Congressman Billybob]

It should be crystal clear that President Bush will NOT pull a Neville Chamberlain and "mess up" by failing to act. All the other ways of "messing up" a war that you refer to, DO involve unnecessary deaths of American servicemen. And even your first option of "do nothing" could wind up with hundreds of thousands of American civilians dead.

The short of it is, Ratner blurted out the truth of what she thought and means, on live TV. No one can either spin that or make it go away, now.

The latter consideration, the error of doing nothing, is why I expect a direct confrontation with North Korea as a double feature. As soon as Hussein is dead and gone in Iraq, and his thugs have been replaced with a "peaceful" government under our supervision, I expect American attention, personnel and equipment to go East, rather than come home, in order to confront North Korea.

The first step in the ending of the Korean War (which, by the way, has never legally ended, it is only a "truce"), will be an air attack on the NK nuclear facilities. Remember the Israeli attack on a nuclear facility outside Baghdad almost twenty years ago? I expect the same on 2003 in NK.

Billybob

[Congressman Billybob]

You have, unfortunately, repeated a liberal "urban myth." George Bush I was not "surprised by how an electronic checkout works." The truth of that is the checker showing it to him took a torn UPC tag and scanned it.

It still worked. THAT was what surprised Bush I; it still scanned despite being torn.

Billybob

[Oldeconomybuyer]

Anything that's good for the nations economic or national security it's bad for the RATS.

It's instructive to remember that Daschle obstructed the presidents economic stimulus and homeland security proposals while offering no alternative plans.

[Robert DeLong]

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[Eternal_Bear]

Airdrop the Rat into Baghdad now! Yes, she is an enemy of America and should be treated as such.

[freebilly]

Wars can be screwed up in many ways, including not acting at all, acting at the wrong times or attacking the wrong targets. To get upset with this statement or try to stretch it into something it is not is a bit much.

BS. You screw up a war effort and people die as a result of inaction, attacking the wrong targets, or acting at the wrong time. To hope for something to go wrong for Bush's war effort is to implicitly understand that our men will die.

Sorry you fail to see the logic....

[7thson]

Whatever she meant, she should explain herself. It is rather obvious that she wants Bush to fail. If Bush fails, so does the United States. She should be made to account for her words.

[wunderkind54]

She'll get the lefty liberal media pass, as usual.

This article will only inflame the passions of all right thinking folks...which is fine, but will hardly change what the lefty media chooses to provide or condemn.