A Few of FR's Finest....Every Day....12-05-02

Billie, JohnHuang2 and daisyscarlett | John Huang2

[daisyscarlett]

A Few of FR's Finest.....
......Every Day

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A Few of FR's Finest November 11, 2001

So many people have written me since my original Veteran's Day Tribute, asking how they, or a loved one, could be included in that tribute. Since I can no longer add the photos to the body of the thread, I've been including them in additional posts as I received enough to make another collage.

Still that doesn't seem to be enough. I think there's never been a better nor more appropriate time to keep the faces of our own Veterans and Active Military in front of FReepers--every day! That's why I wanted to do yet another Daily Thread .....ABOUT FReepers .....and FOR FReepers. But not only about our Military FReepers; for all FReepers! Wouldn't it be nice to get to know a few of the other FReepers as well? That's why, in addition to seeing FR's Finest Military Personnel every day, I thought it might be fun to feature a different FReeper (or FReepers) each day. If you would like to be pictured, or know someone who would, please FReepmail me and we'll turn the spotlight - on YOU - for the day!

And do let me know if you'd like your picture added to the groups of Veterans/Active Military below. I will keep this page updated, and continue to add them to the comment section of the original Veteran's Day thread as well.

TOP: Logos, SwedeGirl's hubby, Neil E Wright, FallGuy, 1John, Sneakypete
MIDDLE:  T'wit, COB1, LadyX, Dick Bachert, 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
BOTTOM:  YankeeinSC, Delta21, JoeSixPack1

TOP:  Bosniajmc, AFVetGal, Archy, A Navy Vet
MIDDLE:  4TheFlag, Aeronaut, 68Grunt, Xinga
BOTTOM:  Codger, AAABest, Clinton's A Liar, Duke809, dcwusmc

TOP:  mc5cents, Norb2569, LBGA's son, VanJenerette
MIDDLE:  Jim Robinson, KJenerette, davidosborne, KG9Kid
BOTTOM:  gwmoore, Equality7-2521, SAMWolf

TOP:  porgygirl, Phil V., MudPuppy, NorCoGOP
MIDDLE:  RaceBannon, OneidaM, rdb3, jwTexian
BOTTOM:  USMC Vet, TheMayor, Vineyard, rhododogma

We now have eleven groups of veterans/active military; we will post each group of three or four twice a week, with thumbnail/links of the remaining seven or eight groups on each thread. Click on any of the thumbnails below to see the group full-size.

         

GROUP 5A: TOP:  spectr17, RightOnline, SERE_Doc, Tet68. MIDDLE:  FutureSnakeEater, RightOnline's wife, CIApilot, Clamper1797. BOTTOM:  usmcobra, onedoug, DiverDave, Joe6-pack.

GROUP 6A: TOP:  g'nad, AgThorn's son Justin, SLB, AgThorn's son Brett. MIDDLE:  fish70, razorback-bert, CheneyChick, Leroy S Mort, Mark17. BOTTOM:  Terry's Take, Taxman, DinkyDau.

GROUP 7A: TOP:  ValerieUSA's son Grant, SK1Thurman, kd5cts, RangerVetNam, dansangel and .45man's son-in-law Tony.BOTTOM:  rangerX, Old China Hand, Trish, Howlin's dad, Mustang.

GROUP 8A: TOP: ohioWfan's son, MamaBear's father-in-law, MamaBear's dad, ladtx. MIDDLE:  The Mayor's niece, M.Kehoe, Beach_Babe's son-in-law. BOTTOM:  deadhead's dad, HiJinx, Severa's hubby, viligantcitizen's granddad.

      

GROUP 9A: TOP: Q6-God, Scan59, Mama Bear and JKPhoto's son, ofMagog. MIDDLE:  Big'ol_freeper, JustAmy's great uncle, Prodigal Son. BOTTOM:  JustAmy's husband, JustAmy's brother-in-law, JustAmy's brother.

GROUP 10A: TOP: dakine's wife, MeeknMing's dad, Auntbee's nephew, MilitiaMan7, AlasBabylon. BOTTOM:  Joe Brower, Temple Owl, Temple Owl's wife, dutchess' dad, Aomagrat.

GROUP 11A: TOP: ladtx #2 son; DiverDave's twin Don; petuniasevan and husband poorman; Mustard; ladtx #1 son. BOTTOM: AlamoGirl's brother Floyd; AG's dad; AG's brother Jim (inset); WVNan's husband; ladtx' Aunt Eva.

                     

The Saudi Story -- The Sequel

by JohnHuang2

So lemme see if I get this straight: The Saudi Royals suddenly just rolled out of bed Tuesday morning and said, 'gee, we had no idea we were funding the fundies, but let's hold a 'We-Did-Not-Have-Charity-Relations-With-Those-Terrorists-And-We-Promise-Never-To-Do-It-Again' press conference in Washington -- all without White House prompting, right? No behind-the-scenes, 'are-you-with-us-or-with-the-terrorists?', 'get-off-the-fence' ultimatums from the Bush administration, eh? No reading of the riot act, huh?

Well, if you believe that, email me at elhombre63@yahoo.com. I've got some oil fields in Saudi Arabia to sell ya.

Besides, which is it? The 'Bush-Orchestrated-9/11-With-Help-From-The-Royal-Family' conspiracy kooks deny the White House had anything to do with this announcement. Yet they tell us the Royals and Bush are joined at the hips. (For residents of Palm Beach County, the Saudis Tuesday announced a major crack down on terrorist financing, the imposition of tough new rules on charities, creation of an agency to oversee them, an intelligence unit to secretly track charitable payments, among other reforms.)

"It's about helping ... set up systems that are effective -- policies, procedures -- so they can track not only donations that they receive but expenditures that they engage in," said Adel al-Jubeir, foreign affairs adviser to Crown Prince Abdullah, at the Saudi Embassy Tuesday in Washington.

For the anti-Bush zealots, no matter which faction/contingent or bloc, this Saudi brouhaha marks the best of all worlds. There's something here for every cabal. Yum-yum-delicious!

For 'Hate-America-Make-Love-Not-War' flag-burners, the controversy complicates at the most critical juncture anti-Saddam coalition-building for the Bush administration. Washington very much wants Saudi bases available -- or at least overflight rights -- in the event U.N. inspections fail. This dispute, Bush-haters hope, drives a wedge in U.S.-Saudi relations and strengthens the hand of anti-Western, pro-bin Laden hardliners within the Royal family, who want nothing with Washington and will glom onto this and say, 'Ah-ha! We told you so'.

For paranoid, black helicopter crackpots, the U.S.-Saudi fracas fuels their 'Bush-Knew-About-9/11-Before-9/11-But-Did-Nothing-In-Order-To-Protect-Big-Oil-And-Boost-His-Polls' fantasies/delusions.

For the 'Bush-Is-An-Idiot' media, the Saudi fracas gives them a chance to regurgitate pre-9/11 mantras, since discredited: Bush doesn't know what he doing; Bush is in over his head; Bush is too naive, blah, blah, blah.

For al-Qaeda terrorists, a rupture in U.S.-Saudi ties means Mission Accomplished. It would be everything they've worked so hard for. Quick: Why were 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers Saudis? Hmmm, was it just coincidence, or 'Divide-and-Conquer' strategy by Osama to turn his enemies against each other?

For Democrats in Congress, this rumpus, they believe, gives them an opening to attack the Bush administration knavishly on its strongest issue -- national security -- and guilefully appear to the "right" of Bush. See America? Who said we Dems are a bunch of wusses? Why, we're bigger hawks than Bush! Watch as we beat our chests loudly with our big fists!

It's a way to discredit Bush and discredit the War on Terror, they think.

To death and taxes, add a third certainty in life: D.O. -- Democrat Opportunism. Mention this Saudi hubbub, and liberals, on cue, switch into 'let-me-tell-you-why-Bush-is-no-good' mode. No surprise, of course, for no matter what Bush says or does, if Democrats aren't fussing and crabbing, they're nagging and nitpicking.

Bottom line: Dems, rejected by voters for being too soft-on-Terror, are exploiting the Saudi fracas full-tilt to gain back lost credibility.

But it won't work and the reason is simple: The inherent pandemonium of contradictions.

Compare the Democrats' 'don't-ask, don't-tell' position on Saddam with their stance vis-a-vis the Saudis. It's a maze of a contradictions. To illustrate, Dems will tell you that, on the one hand, acting unilaterally in Iraq is a no-no -- a big NO-NO. 'Build a coalition', they urge Bush. Consult our "allies". Seek U.N. approval. Be careful not to upset Arab sensibilities -- or risk inflaming the 'Arab Street'. Be mindful of Arab pride. Don't look like a bully, or act like you seek world domination. Don't act like a crusader. Don't spread our forces too thin, nor take on too many enemies at once. Iraq only diverts valuable resources away from the hunt for al-Qaeda. Oh, and don't bomb on Ramadan.

Ah, now mention Saudi Arabia, and lo and behold! Instantly! magically! 'See-No-Evil-Hear-No-Evil' Dems morph into "super-hawks". On Saudi Arabia, Dems say, 'to heck with Arab sensibilities! Take action -- now! Be unilateralist! To heck with Arab pride! Who cares about the Arab Street? To heck with consulting allies! To heck with the U.N. -- just do something, Bush! Bully the Saudis! Crusade into all their internal affairs! Oh, and while you're at it, go after Pakistan's Gen. Musharraf, too -- just keep your hands off Saddam!

Now tell me, does any of this make any sense? Imagine how it all looks to the American people. It's why Democrats have not a shred of credibility.

Don't take my word for it. Turn on the Sunday TV gabshows, and chances are you'll find big-talking Democrat Senator Bob Huffing-and-Puffing Graham of Florida lobbing his latest 'Bush-Is-A-Derelict' salvos. Gee, Bob, if your party's so tough, why are Dem trial lawyer fat-cats hankering for release of bin Laden terrorists from Gitmo? Y'all want a big Democrat-al-Qaeda family reunion, I suppose, eh? Behind every 'Bush-is-to-blame-for-9/11 lib, I suspect, lurks a bin Laden sympathizer screaming to get out.

Anyway, that's...

My two cents..

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[ladtx]

In memory of my fellow Vietnam helicopter pilots who were killed in that war the following were lost on DEC 5. God bless them all.

1967 CPT Gary L. England (USMC) -- VMO-2, Age 30, Greenvale, New York
1967 2LT Robert I. Terry III (USMCR) -- VMO-2, Age 22, Corpus Christi, Texas
1968 WO1 John A. Berry (USAR) -- HHC/1 BDE 1 CAV, Age 22, Naturita, Colorado
1968 WO1 William W. Breece Jr. (USAR) -- A/7/1 CAV, Age 20, Morrisville, Pennsylvania

In memory of CPT Gary L. England and 2LT Robert I. Terry III.

From VMO-2 Squadron Command Chronology:
Hostage 3-0 flight was on a mission working with two Air Force rescue helicopters attempting to reach the site of a crashed Army huey. The mission was aborted due to poor weather, and in attempting to return to Danang IFR (because of intense ground fire taken at low altitudes), both aircraft of 3-0 flight inadvertently crashed into the side of a mountain. All four crewmembers in the lead aircraft were killed, while the crew of the second aircraft escaped with minor injuries.

UH-1E -- Type of aircraft flown by CPT England and 2LT Terry.

IN THE SHADOW OF THE BLADE

SCOUTS OUT!

[MeekOneGOP]

Of course it is loaded.....and, re WinterWonderLand, sounds like FUN !!

[lodwick]

Sierra Nevada sunrise

[lodwick]

Salute!

[GailA]

Good Morning ALL..excellent break down as usual John.

Coffee and biscuits are on.

[GailA]

[Mo1]

[Fiddlstix]

Be sure and
Click the Pics
J

[Aquamarine]

Behind every 'Bush-is-to-blame-for-9/11 lib, I suspect, lurks a bin Laden sympathizer screaming to get out.

Thanks John...well said! When the dem's take that position they are outing themselves as the traitor's that they are!

[daisyscarlett]

Thank you for the article. It cleared up some things I was confused about.

An unidentified receptionist at a Saudi Islamic charity in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, sits behind books made for visitors titled ' Needy Families Aid Project in Palestine' in this file photo dated Feb. 3, 2002. The foreign policy adviser to Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah, Adel al-Jubeir, explained in Washington Tuesday Dec. 3, 2002, the measures the kingdom has taken to ensure charitable donations don't end up in terrorists' hands. (AP Photo/Hasan Jamali)

[daisyscarlett]

Adel Al-Jubeir, foreign policy advisor to the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, announces new steps the Kingdom is taking to fight terrorism, during a press conference at the Embassy of Saudi Arabia in Washington, Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2002. Chief among them is a new government agency for overseeing charities, a new intelligence unit and strict rules for sending money outside the country. These measures come after his government acknowledged some of the money flowing through Saudi-based charities may have been used by terrorists. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

[daisyscarlett]

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, left, accompanied by Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Richard Myers, gestures during news a conference with reporters for foreign news outlets, Tuesday, Nov. 26, 2002 at the Foreign Press Center at the National Press Club in Washington. Answering a question about Saudi Arabia, Rumsfeld said, 'We have had and do currently have and, in my view, will have prospectively a good military to military relationship with Saudi Arabia.' (AP Photo/Kamenko Pajic)

[Aquamarine]

Good morning Daisy. Great posts! There's something about that Saudi's eyes that bother's me.

[deadhead]

Finally getting that snow I have been waiting for :-) Have a wonderful day all

~~~Colleen~~~

[Aquamarine]

The temperature rose here last night to 38 degrees and we were spared the icestorm...North Carolina didn't fare as well though. Heard they got hit hard...a million people without power.
Stay warm.

[firewalk]

Lots of snow here today....the weathermen actually told the truth! (-:

[Temple Owl]

Good morning daisyscarlett, ladies. Good post John. The weather outside is frightful. I think I shall remain inside most of the day. Hope you all have a nice day.

[FreeTheHostages]

And worth every penny we pay you John. :)

I assume he pays taxes on it?

John, re don't play poker with a Texan, I've always though the Saudis were your typical Arab businessmen: the price is always negotiable and everything is a negotiation. If we want them to come clean, we have to push, push, push and complain, complain, complain.

[FreeTheHostages]

Aqua, I still LOVE the jpg you put up of the father and son dragging the Christmas tree through the snow. Deadhead, I love your snow graphics today! Everyone, I LOVE this snow. I'm from Vermont and I just LOVE snow. I was late getting to work because I just HAD to shovel some of it! I even love to SHOVEL!! :D :D :D

I feel bad for the people in North Carolina. Ice isn't quite as easy to like . . . .

[FreeTheHostages]