Posted on 11/25/2002 3:27:05 PM PST by Old philosopher
Today, November 25, 2002, with the signature of George W. Bush creating the Department of Homeland Security, a milestone in the History of our great country was marked by the death of the Twin Pillars of our society, Freedom and Liberty.
The fight to keep alive these two foundations of our Nation has been a long and arduous one. The mercilous attacks on them have come from politicians on both sides of the aisle in their ever continuing grab for more and more power. Regardless of popular support for the twins, the political class has long sought to bring about their demise. In a "Bi-Partisan" effort both houses of Congress have voted to destroy the most important rights of the People, only a very few of the Congress opposed the death of these important twins.
Those of us who have known these twins for a long time will be very much saddened by their death, and those who have only known them briefly will soon learn how important they were to the Welfare and Security of our Great Country. With the death of Liberty and Freedom it will only be a short time until the Populace of this country will be living under a Dictatorship, controlled by an "Elite" class of politicians who will dictate every facet of our lives.
Requiem In Pacet!
There I fixed it for you goofy.
"Suffer me not, Fool. Respond to my question or return to your sugar tit..."
In other words, you can't name a specific freedom that has been stolen by signing the Homeland Security Act. So instead of being man-enough to have the character to admit your failing, you simply go forth and engage in character assasination.
Typical. You are ideologically bankrupt.
That's such a non-response. How typical.
First, you claimed that America was more "free" back when we could legally own slaves, indenture servants and press-gang sailors at gun-point, and were banned from owning gold and buying booze.
Then you have the nerve to attack MY education as if pointing out your failings was somehow a sign of intellectual weakness.
You are little more than a disruptor, and you certainly don't have the mental accumen for any rational debate.
To have that level of mental accumen, you'd first have to start responding to the points made by your opponents (something that is no doubt too far above your head for you to manage for any significant length of time).
Maybe you could become the personal valet for Alec Baldwin, or Barbra Streisand's chef. Ah, shucks, I forgot that indentured servitude is a lost freedom, too! ;)
If you are going to hang around on this thread, at least have the dignity to answer the VERY FIRST question that was put to you: What specific freedom was stolen from you when the Homeland Security Act was signed yesterday? If you can't answer it, then you are just full of hyperbole.
Now don't get paraboloid.
It's not about conservative/liberal or right/left anymore. It is about totalitarianism/liberty now. It is about overwhelming government power versus small limited government.
The Right and Left have joined forces towards a single goal: power. I suppose that once they've achieved that goal by taking it from the people, they will return to fighting amongst themselves, but the people will remain disenfranchised.
Tuor
Are you smoking crack cocaine by the kilo? Did you MISS the whole warfare between Bush and the Senate over judgeships and legislation during the last 18 months?
You dare call that sort of overt partisanship "joining forces towards a single goal"??
It's no wonder that you fringe-party types can't crack 5%; you don't even have a believable spiel.
Fundamentally unimportant.
You don't stop an oncoming flood by throwing pebbles at it.
Tuor
"Fundamentally unimportant." - Tuor
On the contrary. You made the demonstrably erroneous claim that the two major parties had joined together to pursue a solitary goal together.
To debunk it, I pointed out that you had clearly missed the outright warfare between Democrats and Republicans. In other words, the two major parties are fighting, not cooperating at every level to pursue a single goal.
Sure, you can pretend to dismiss such huge flaws in your own argument, but you are only fooling yourself and a few of the fringers who have likewise swallowed the "all government is bad all the time" kool aid.
Fundamentally unimportant, indeed...
To which you responded: That's such a non-response. How typical.
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Then you have the nerve to attack MY education
Well, no, I was not attacking your education. There are no attack words in my response. I was simply responding to the several times you alluded to my education, and especially to this sentence of yours which I quoted:
You simply can not(sic) survive in today's modern world with that poor of an education...
In which sentence you seem to be commenting on my education, and happen to make two errors while doing it. I presumed it was an illustration of your education, and said so. Sorry you are so easily offended.
As for:
You are little more than a disruptor, and you certainly don't have the mental accumen for any rational debate.
Then why do you debate with me?
To have that level of mental accumen, you'd first have to start responding to the points made by your opponents...
I do, and as soon as you make a point, I will respong to yours too.
Hank
"Then why do you debate with me?" - Hank Kerchief
Merely to keep propagandists such as yourself from unduly influencing innocent bystanders with your specious agitprop.
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