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Beltway Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary-Thurs., Oct. 24,2002
Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences | October 24, 2002 | Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences

Posted on 10/24/2002 2:38:22 AM PDT by wewillnotfail

Overnite, two men arrested while sleeping in their car at a reststop in MD. John Mohammed aka John Williams and his stepson Lee Malvo. Mohammad is thought to be the likely shooter.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: dc; maryland; religionofpeace; rop; shootings; sniper; terrorism; virginia
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To: ZinGirl
I read recent that when you see old sneakers thrown over a wire that that is a possible location to buy drugs. I had never heard that before so maybe the tea bag is a similar tactic.
1,721 posted on 10/24/2002 11:34:59 AM PDT by alisasny
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To: FootBall
"MSNBC reporting Lookout for older Burgundy Chevy Caprice was put out Oct. 3rd after DC shooting of elderly black man.
Oct. 8th....Baltimore Policeman finds John Muhammed sleeping in car and lets him go after taking car make and tags"

Oh, Noooooo.

1,722 posted on 10/24/2002 11:37:32 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: alisasny
yep....I've heard the old sneaker thing. I was thinking something similar, too....until this morning. It's probably still a drug thing....it's just odd. You can pretty much follow the teabagged signs to a major thoroughfare. After that strange, VERY out-of-place vehicle coming down our street....I just started wondering.....

1,723 posted on 10/24/2002 11:39:03 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: oldironsides
Did you just hear on Fox that they had the heat seeking planes out this am. The trap was set and they got their snare.
1,724 posted on 10/24/2002 11:39:52 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: alisasny; Terriergal
My grandchildren are here today (fall break) so the only news I have is here, since we have been in Dora/SpongeBob/Tiney Toon world. I am leaving in half an hour to take them to see the Veggietales movie. Hopefully I will be back in time for the press conference.

I am still curious about the Hispanic descriptions that seemed to percolate through the earlier part of this case, as well as whether Matthew Dowdy (bogus witness) had any connection to Muhammed.

I will try to catch up when I get home!

1,725 posted on 10/24/2002 11:40:19 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: FootBall
Question: How did Snipers getaway from all shootings?

Answer: They have a hole in their car for end of rifle and didn't drive a white truck. They blended in.

There's one thing that doesn't make sense to me about this hole in the trunk. Okay, how could someone take aim with a scope on the rifle through a hole in the trunk? Have they said how big this hole is? Hasn't it been confirmed the shooting was done from the wooded areas?

1,726 posted on 10/24/2002 11:41:05 AM PDT by Vol2727
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To: Darlin'
Yikes. I heard that too.
1,727 posted on 10/24/2002 11:41:30 AM PDT by rintense
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To: TexKat
"John Williams Mohammad is not Jamaican, possible born in Louisiana. "

You're right. Hew was born in New Orleans and frew up in Baton Rouge. Malco is Jamaican and an illegal. He was in INS custody in January of this year but released in the custody of his mother until his official hearing in December. Apparently, Mohammed and Malvo met while both were living in a homeless shelter last year.

1,728 posted on 10/24/2002 11:41:35 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: seeker41
They are making it out to be about his military service when it's really about his service to ISLAM and his hatred of Americans.

You can bet that they are going to blame this on everyone and everything else but. The gun confiscators will use this to further their agenda to disarm Americans, the ACLU will blame it on his upbringing and they will be just a pair of loners who went bad.

1,729 posted on 10/24/2002 11:41:36 AM PDT by slimer
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To: FreedomPoster
Dave Berry's advice for asking "are you pregnant?" - DO NOT do so unless you can actually see the baby's head protruding. The woman may have just put on some weight.

*looks guilty* Why'd you say that? I've never asked a woman if she's pregnant only to find out she's not. ;-)

1,730 posted on 10/24/2002 11:41:48 AM PDT by Frapster
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To: mhking
I gotta get me somma dat! LOL
1,731 posted on 10/24/2002 11:42:33 AM PDT by slimer
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To: areafiftyone
how ya doing yonkers, i am from north side by nepperhan ave. , by liberty lines, up roberts ave. are you a native.

1,732 posted on 10/24/2002 11:43:27 AM PDT by angcat
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To: Vol2727
Very easy, actually. All they have to do is split down the back seat and make a hole to crawl into the trunk. One could easily lay down and aim a rifle through a hole in the trunk.

My car, a small 1992 Toyota, has a fold down rear seat with an opening into the trunk.

1,733 posted on 10/24/2002 11:43:28 AM PDT by rintense
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From WXIA-TV/DT Atlanta (http://www.11alive.com):
Exclusive: Georgia Man Knew Suspect

Reported By: Jennifer Leslie
Reported By: Paul Crawley
Web Editor: Ian Stinson
Last Modified: 10/24/2002 2:25:37 PM

An Atlanta man says he knew sniper-suspect John Muhammad and described him in an exclusive interview with 11Alive News.

"When I seen his picture I say, 'Baby, I know this guy. I worked for him in Tacoma.' My wife didn't believe me," Johnny Campbell told 11Alive News.

Since hearing about the arrest of Muhammad, Campbell has closely watched television coverage of the sniper investigation. He spoke to 11Alive to convey a message to the world -- don't blame Islam.

He worked for Muhammad's express lube business for four years in Tacoma, Wash. At the time, they seemed to have a lot in common -- both men were in the military and both were muslim, he said.

"It shocked me. It really shocked me. I couldn't, didn't believe it, but then I had been saying all along that you know whoever was doin' it in D.C. had to be someone out of the military and an expert at it," said Campbell.

Campbell described Muhammad as a Gulf War veteran trained as a sniper.

"He was the type that was sent out to spy upon the enemy and kill at will."

Campbell also said Muhammad was a perfectionist with a short temper, who harbored some resentment for his role in Desert Storm.

"I did hear him say once or twice about the way the the government was sending us over there and using us as Guinea pigs and bring us back. He was kinda upset with the government for that."

However, Campbell said he never imagined that his former boss and fellow Muslim could have had any connection to the sniper case.

"I'm really stunned. I don't know what could have happened. I really don't. I know it's not the work of Allah that made this happen."

Campbell said he wanted to make it very clear that if Muhammad is the sniper his actions go against the teachings of their religion. Campbell said Muhammad must have had "a breakdown."

Campbell said his boss was married with three young children. He didn't recognize the name of the second suspect arrested -- Lee Malvo -- who is said to be Muhammad's step-son.

1,734 posted on 10/24/2002 11:44:59 AM PDT by mhking
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To: wardaddy
The sniper's victims families should group together and class action sue Farahkan and the Nation of Islam or any other Islamist group they can tie Mohammed to for monetary damages same as "civil rights" groups have done to Metzger and Aryan Nations.

GOOD SUGGESTION.

I wonder if the cause of converting Americans to islam is going to hit the floor after this. Ya know--like a "conversion slump" a "downturn in the market"

1,735 posted on 10/24/2002 11:46:18 AM PDT by aeronca
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To: slimer
I'm drinking double strength coffee with so much sugar that it's like caro syrup. :-0

Me, too, and I have to keep rewarming mine.I just thought about something. Moose is really going to catch it from Belafonte. Moose will not be fit for the outhouse in Bellafonte's eyes.

1,736 posted on 10/24/2002 11:46:19 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: rrr51
"I am struck that both of these guys are named "John". I recall that in the film "The Adventures of Buckeroo Bonzai across the 8th Dimension", all of the aliens were named "John". At the time I figured it was a joke, but maybe they were on to something. Is it possible that these guys are aliens from the 8th Dimension? "

Evil! Pure and simple from the eighth dimension! :)

Great movie! But I think this pure and simple evil is from Mecca rather than the eighth dimension.
1,737 posted on 10/24/2002 11:46:53 AM PDT by Maneuver Damage 1
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To: ZinGirl
do any of you living near the shootings remember seeing tea bags taped to stop signs?

I'm not even going there.

1,738 posted on 10/24/2002 11:47:11 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus
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To: Caribou
No, I haven't read that theory on this thread. However, if that were true, the driver of that white van/truck would have to be one cool motorscooter to agree to be the rabbit and subject to interrogation.

Doesn't surprise me that the loonies will try to find fault with the nilitary... Hope they do, 'cause this is the wrong time and wrong President to try that er, uh...that stuff around.

1,739 posted on 10/24/2002 11:48:26 AM PDT by Darlin'
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; All
Those of us who are without sleep apologize for our past, current and future typos etc.! I know for me....I passed my "DUH" moment hours ago!


1,740 posted on 10/24/2002 11:48:48 AM PDT by justshe
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