To: JohnathanRGalt
This is exactly what Muslims should condemn. This distrotion of the Qur'an and the disregard for the Sunnah (Teachings of Muhammed, PBUH) is an outrage. Islam is not about murder and slaughter, and whoever thinks that it is needs to research Islam a little more closely. This murderous hate-mongering is something to be abhored, and I implore every Muslim to denounce these people and step away from them. This is not the way a Muslim is supposed to act. All forms of hate are wrong. We are not the judges, for the True Judge will make all decisions on the Last Day. Peace to all who want a peaceful world.
4 posted on
09/03/2002 6:35:20 PM PDT by
Sharif
To: Sharif
Welcome to FR. You're going to find a lot of hostility toward Islam here, most of it from people who take the trash-talking radicals at their word. And for good reason, there are rather a good number of them and they really
are trying to kill us, you know.
You will also encounter those who are just as upset as you about this distortion of an otherwise beautiful and limpid theology. There are Christians who are similarly guilty about twisting the doctrine of their gentle Savior into justification for harming their fellow men and women. The difference is that these are few and largely marginalized, while at the moment the Islamic radicals are anything but.
I'm pulling for you. And, if I understand you correctly, I agree with you: this insane drumbeat of hatred has to stop. Only Moslems can make that happen, the rest of us cannot.
To: Sharif
Yes, peace to all who work for peace etc.
Alas, the Koran has plenty of verses about violence against nonmuslims. It's a fact.
You may argue that to you Allah is not the satanic moon god clearly involved in the worship of the tribal groups concerned at the time of Mohammad. But you can't, to me, logically argue that Islam is a religion of peace when so much of the text clearly advocates violence against nonMuslims.
Franklin Graham is right.
Your position is . . . nice . . . but I fear the sort of nice that your fellow religionists would blood thirstily trample over the top of and spill your blood only too gladly to get at us Christians.
15 posted on
09/03/2002 8:38:55 PM PDT by
Quix
To: Sharif
BTW, one of Mohammad's many descendants converted to Christianity and lived with me for more than a year.
He did extensive research on the origins of the word "Allah."
Have you ever done such research? It might be fascinating to you.
17 posted on
09/03/2002 9:12:14 PM PDT by
Quix
To: Sharif
Yeah, we hear that a lot these days.
Sharif repeated the party line:
Islam is not about murder and slaughter, and whoever thinks that it is needs to research Islam a little more closely.
To: Sharif
This is exactly what Muslims should condemn. This distrotion of the Qur'an and the disregard for the Sunnah (Teachings of Muhammed, PBUH) is an outrage. Islam is not about murder and slaughter, and whoever thinks that it is needs to research Islam a little more closely. This murderous hate-mongering is something to be abhored, and I implore every Muslim to denounce these people and step away from them. This is not the way a Muslim is supposed to act. All forms of hate are wrong. We are not the judges, for the True Judge will make all decisions on the Last Day. Peace to all who want a peaceful world. That may be the case. But, in the eyes of the Radical Islamists, you would also be targeted as an infidel for your beliefs. Muslims like what you describe did not attack us. The ones that spout hate and the end of civilization as we know it did.
Welcome to FR.
21 posted on
09/03/2002 9:56:49 PM PDT by
abner
To: Sharif
Thank you Sharif for saying this. It would help if more Muslims would do likewise. Why do you suppose they aren't?
To: Sharif; JohnathanRGalt; Billthedrill; Mulder; ladyinred; abner; Quix; Cindy; DWSUWF; ...
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24 posted on
09/04/2002 2:02:45 AM PDT by
ppaul
To: Sharif
Good luck to you, Sharif, but you will find very few
on this web-site who are not Muslim-hating fanatics.
27 posted on
09/04/2002 4:00:46 AM PDT by
wotan
To: Sharif
Thanks for your comments.
31 posted on
09/04/2002 6:03:52 AM PDT by
SJackson
To: Sharif
>>This distrotion of the Qur'an and
We've heard all these statements about true muslims and suchlike. And the so called distortion of the kuran.
You're gonna have a hard time convincing us of the BS about islam being hijacked when all over the world, from the Piillippines to Indonesia, Malaysia, even Thailand now, to Kashmir, Chechnya, Israel, Sudan, Algeria and the Balkans, the jihadis pursue their bloodletting with great fervor, enthusiasm and joy.
Better yet, the serious issue is the total lack of credibility on the part of the US muslims in relation to the rest of America. American muslims have not shown or demonstrated or proved that their primary loyalty is to America and to a civil secular society that promotes equality for women and tolerates and encourages a variety of viewpoints.
Don't the American muslims understand the hole they've dug for themselves.
To: Sharif
Islam is not about murder and slaughter, and whoever thinks that it is needs to research Islam a little more closely. I've read the Koran. From my copy of it:
Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day ... until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low
Surah IX:29O ye who believe! Choose not for friends such of those who received the Scriptures before you
Surah V:57
Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them captive, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush...
Surah IX:5
And slay them wherever ye find them ... Such is the reward of disbelievers.
Surah II:191
After doing my research, I conclude that Muslims who deny that Islam is about the violent enslavement/killing of non-Muslims are liars who think that their audience is incapable of finding out the truth
To: Sharif
I hope and pray that muslims throughout the world will heed
your advice, but so far it has fallen on deaf ears. I have not heard any strong condemnation from any muslim with any authority of the most evil act committed in the name of the Qu'ran on 9.11, and the homicide bombing of innocent children, and women civilian.
To: Sharif
Just keep repeating to yourself, "Islam is a Religion of Peace".
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