Posted on 09/03/2002 6:13:40 PM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
A website hosted in Clifton, New Jersey and affiliated with Al-Qa'ida ( www.Jehad.net ) is calling on Muslims throughout the world to "torture infidels".
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September 04, 2002 | No.418 |
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An Al-Qa'ida-Affiliated Online Magazine: On the Importance of Jihad as a Means of Destroying the 'Infidel Countries' In an article in the sixteenth issue of the online magazine Al-Ansar, which is affiliated with Al-Qa'ida ,(1) a columnist identified as Seif Al-Din Al-Ansari discussed the Koranic verse "Allah Will Torture Them [the Infidels] At Your Hands":
The Annihilation of the Infidels is a Divine Decree "Regardless of the norms of 'humanist' belief, which sees destroying the infidel countries as a tragedy requiring us to show some conscientious empathy and... an atmosphere of sadness for the loss that is to be caused to human civilization - an approach that does not distinguish between believer and infidel... - I would like to stress that annihilating the infidels is an inarguable fact, as this is the [divine] decree of fate..." "When the Koran places these tortures [to be inflicted on the infidels] in the solid framework of reward and punishment... it seeks to root this predestined fact in the consciousness of the Muslim group, asserting that the infidels will be annihilated, so as to open a window of hope to the Muslim group..." "Nevertheless, [this divine decree] has become, for some, a tranquilizing pill... When the enemy launches operations of colonialism and destruction, we find that a few [of the Muslims] refrain from entering the battlefield claiming that the elements of the collapse of Western civilization are proliferating [in any event]." "Their conclusion is indeed true, but the way in which it is presented is misleading, and it is aimed at removing responsibility [to fight the infidels] from the Muslim, with the claim that Allah has already promised to take care of the infidels' annihilation." "...I would like to point out the danger of this analysis, because it... [may] make the Muslims passive and turn [them] into one who does not act to carry out [the commandments] of the religion or to dispel falsehood, but lives always in an atmosphere of passive waiting, that is cloaked - always - by a call to trust in the ability of Allah!!" "When Allah told us of the certainty of the annihilation of the infidels, He did not do so using ambiguous concepts. He clarified that this would be achieved in one of two ways: by means of a direct act of Allah... or by means of the Muslim group, which would, in accordance with the Islamic commandment, serve as an implement for carrying out [the divine decree], as it is said: '...Allah will torture them [the infidels] Himself or at our hands (Koran 9:52).'" "Yes, perhaps it is predetermined that the infidel country will be annihilated. But [if the believers do not act] this kind of annihilation will never be in favor of the Islamic state. The infidel country will be annihilated in favor of an infidel country like it or even worse than it..." "Therefore, the belief in 'annihilating the country of heresy' [only] opens up for us a window of hope, and sets for us a goal that is in the realm of the possible - but it does not annihilate the infidel country for us, nor does it even affect it!!" "This is merely a belief, which, if unaccompanied by the words 'at your hands' that appear in the Koranic verse [9:14, 'Fight them and Allah will torture them at your hands'] - it will remain in the wonderful realm of ideas that float in the theoretical universe, and is like beautiful dreams that arouse conscientious emotions - yet, when we awake, we find that the infidel country still exists, falsehood is not destroyed [by itself] in favor of the truth, [except when] the truth goes into action..." "The importance of the human effort to annihilate the infidels... is what Allah sought to teach the Muslims at the Battle of Uhud [625]. Then, there were [Muslims] who thought that because they were right they would most certainly defeat the enemy. The [Muslims] paid a high price for this..." "The question now on the agenda is, how is the torture Allah wants done at our hands to be carried out?... This torture will not, in any way, be carried out by means of preaching [Da'wa], because preaching is activity of exposure, aimed at clarifying the truth in a way that makes it more easily acceptable. Preaching has nothing to do with torture; Jihad is the way of torturing [the infidels] at our hands." "By means of Jihad, Allah tortures them with killing; by means of Jihad, Allah tortures them with injury; by means of Jihad, Allah tortures them with loss of property; by means of Jihad, Allah tortures them with loss of ruling. Allah tortures them by means of Jihad - that is, with heated war that draws its fire from the military front..." "Material power is [to be] confronted with material power, and ideological power is [to be] confronted with ideological power... It would be idiocy to rely on the power of the truth in the face of F-16s. Allah is capable of destroying His enemy without anyone's mediation and without anyone's help, as His capability is absolute and unsurpassed. In spite of all the characteristics of power at their command, these infidel states are no more than a handful of creatures on the speck of dust called Planet Earth... [But] Jihad serves as a trial by suffering for the Muslims by means of the infidels, and for the infidels by means of the Muslims." "The Muslims' trial by suffering is manifested in Jihad's being the instrument by which it is possible to differentiate between the believers and the hypocrites... The infidels' trial by suffering is manifested in Jihad being an exemplary lesson in values, delivered by a group of the pioneers of the Islamic nation, in a practical presentation" "Many of the infidels will be shocked; their emotional entity will be shaken; and perhaps some of them will repent and learn their lesson. In addition, Jihad is a means of defeating them, and perhaps by means of this victory... the tortures will bring them back to the path of righteousness..." Endnotes: |
WHY DO NOT YOU ANSWER YOUR LIES ABOUT THE SWORD AND INDIA FIRST?!?!
Then we'll talk about Indonesia.
Translated: We'll say whatever we feel like.
Kinda like the chaos that ensues when the "Big Giant Head" is contacted on the T.V. comedy program.. 3rd rock from the Sun.
Kinda scary....millions of Muslims trying to contact the Big Giant Head !
Try and grasp this fact, THEY HAVE DECLARED JIHAD AGAINST US.
THEY have attacked us , now you I hope, have not aided or abbetted them and I have no war with you. THEY on the other hand leave me no choice.
When I hear or read of Jihadists being turned in by upstanding Americans of the Muslim faith, then I will feel that the Muslim community is doing something to deal with those who have declared WAR against US.
Please note that I did not declare that ALL Muslims are dogs.
You asked us to let you rein them in, my only question to you is, "When?"
Your 'people' are plotting to attack us (again.)
Therefor, by your interpretation of the Quran, it's perfectly acceptable for us to use any means necessary to wipe out those who are plotting to attack us, isn't it?
Please allow me to extend your logic to its conclusion...
The next time we see some crowd in the West Bank screaming "Death To America" after an attack, we will be free to use nerve gas on them. After all, they're actively supporting people who attack us, right?
The next time I see a mob of 'muslims' dancing around that black rock you worship in the Arabian desert shouting 'death to Jews!' and 'death to the infidels!' we will be perfectly justified in dropping a few Mark 82 nukes on them, right?
I mean, after all, violence is perfectly justified in the Quran if someone is attacking you, right?
Well, your 'people' have attacked us. They did so without warning, and without regard to the 'status' of the victims of your depraved religion. Your 'leaders' boast of their ability to kill non-combatants. They revel in it. They boast of it in your 'mosques'.
A whole bunch of folks who worshiped your stinking child screwing 'prophet' murdered a friend on mine. He was a member of this forum. More than one of your 'religious leaders' has said that this murder is something that your piece of s*** 'prophet' would approve of.
In fact, if I understand alright what the Quran states, his murder was in fact something that Mohamed (p*** be upon his head) would have condoned. Hell, even my Muslim friends (and I have more than one) can't explain to me why I'm not correct in my interpretation of the Quran.
Now, just to be fair, I'll enumerate what I haven't heard.
I haven't heard a single word condeming this view of Islam from a single Imam anywhere on my television set. I haven't seen one single Muslim stand up and say to those murdering monsters in Tehran, Ryiad, Baghdad, the West Bank, Gaza, or anywhere else that what they are doing is evil.
I haven't heard one single one of you renounce, denounce, forswear, or even mock any of the horrendous acts of violence committed in the name of 'mohamet'.
It appears to me dear Sharif, that your 'people' are rapidly becoming the modern day equivilant of Nazis. Your leaders brook no break from the party line of the most radical leaders of your creed.
To question any of the writings of this 'prophet' you bow down to three times a day earns a person the most hideous of death sentences. Does the name Rushdie mean anything to you?
Sorry pal, but I ain't buying into your sick little cult of Death.
Anyone who tells me that I am guaranteed 30 virgins if I kill some poor bastard who doesn't go to the same Church I do is a monster deserving nothing more than a peremptory toss on the same ash heap that the Incas are presently occupying.
Let me tell you something friend Sharif. If you don't start removing, by whatever means necessary, the whackos who have hijacked your 'religion', you will go the way of the Bushido sect which dominated Japan in the 1930's.
Pay attention to my words Sharif...
We had absolutely no compunction here against dropping a couple of nukes on Japan because of the intransigence of their leaders. We didn't want to do it, but we sure as s*** did it.
Do whatever it takes, but for the love of God, or Allah, or Buddah, or whoever it is you people worship do something to stop the monsters in your mosques, because I for one have no problem with us killing as many of you as is necessary for the rest of us to live the way we want to.
Regards,
L
Cindy, you have lost all grip on reality. FR does not encourage free speech.
I have had several fact-based posts pulled because they have expressed opinions that the moderators did not like. I have had my posting privileges suspended twice for not abiding by certain unpublished rules. Once was quite clearly for disputing the moderator's judgment in pulling a post or for publicly requesting some clarification about what the rules are.
Unlike many people who continue to post here with no problem, I have never resorted to ad hominem attacks on other posters, despite the fact that ad hominem attacks are against the rules.
As for me being hateful, that's baloney too.
The only people who will invest the time to learn Arabic in order to read the Qur'an are Muslims. The rest of us have to rely on translations, the vast majority being done by Muslims.
So, are you saying that no Arabic-speaking Muslim can do any better than produce a "corrupted and incomplete translation"? You statement reflects badly on the competence of your fellow Muslims. One would think, though, that you could find a competently done, complete Qur'an translation somewhere. Or at least a body of discussion about Arabic words that are difficult to translate
You're not doing that. You make statements about the Qur'an, and when someone responds with quotes that indicate that you are lying, you go into hand-waving mode about "Well, that's not what it really says"
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