On the Importance of Jihad as a Means of Destroying the 'Infidel Countries'

The Middle East Media Research Institute ^ | September 04, 2002 | MEMRI

[JohnathanRGalt]

A website hosted in Clifton, New Jersey and affiliated with Al-Qa'ida ( www.Jehad.net ) is calling on Muslims throughout the world to "torture infidels".

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Special Dispatch Series - No. 418
September 04, 2002	No.418
An Al-Qa'ida-Affiliated Online Magazine: On the Importance of Jihad as a Means of Destroying the 'Infidel Countries' In an article in the sixteenth issue of the online magazine Al-Ansar, which is affiliated with Al-Qa'ida ,(1) a columnist identified as Seif Al-Din Al-Ansari discussed the Koranic verse "Allah Will Torture Them [the Infidels] At Your Hands": The Annihilation of the Infidels is a Divine Decree "Regardless of the norms of 'humanist' belief, which sees destroying the infidel countries as a tragedy requiring us to show some conscientious empathy and... an atmosphere of sadness for the loss that is to be caused to human civilization - an approach that does not distinguish between believer and infidel... - I would like to stress that annihilating the infidels is an inarguable fact, as this is the [divine] decree of fate..." "When the Koran places these tortures [to be inflicted on the infidels] in the solid framework of reward and punishment... it seeks to root this predestined fact in the consciousness of the Muslim group, asserting that the infidels will be annihilated, so as to open a window of hope to the Muslim group..." "Nevertheless, [this divine decree] has become, for some, a tranquilizing pill... When the enemy launches operations of colonialism and destruction, we find that a few [of the Muslims] refrain from entering the battlefield claiming that the elements of the collapse of Western civilization are proliferating [in any event]." "Their conclusion is indeed true, but the way in which it is presented is misleading, and it is aimed at removing responsibility [to fight the infidels] from the Muslim, with the claim that Allah has already promised to take care of the infidels' annihilation." Muslims Must Not Wait Passively for the Divine Decree to Just Happen "...I would like to point out the danger of this analysis, because it... [may] make the Muslims passive and turn [them] into one who does not act to carry out [the commandments] of the religion or to dispel falsehood, but lives always in an atmosphere of passive waiting, that is cloaked - always - by a call to trust in the ability of Allah!!" "When Allah told us of the certainty of the annihilation of the infidels, He did not do so using ambiguous concepts. He clarified that this would be achieved in one of two ways: by means of a direct act of Allah... or by means of the Muslim group, which would, in accordance with the Islamic commandment, serve as an implement for carrying out [the divine decree], as it is said: '...Allah will torture them [the infidels] Himself or at our hands (Koran 9:52).'" "Yes, perhaps it is predetermined that the infidel country will be annihilated. But [if the believers do not act] this kind of annihilation will never be in favor of the Islamic state. The infidel country will be annihilated in favor of an infidel country like it or even worse than it..." "Therefore, the belief in 'annihilating the country of heresy' [only] opens up for us a window of hope, and sets for us a goal that is in the realm of the possible - but it does not annihilate the infidel country for us, nor does it even affect it!!" "This is merely a belief, which, if unaccompanied by the words 'at your hands' that appear in the Koranic verse [9:14, 'Fight them and Allah will torture them at your hands'] - it will remain in the wonderful realm of ideas that float in the theoretical universe, and is like beautiful dreams that arouse conscientious emotions - yet, when we awake, we find that the infidel country still exists, falsehood is not destroyed [by itself] in favor of the truth, [except when] the truth goes into action..." "The importance of the human effort to annihilate the infidels... is what Allah sought to teach the Muslims at the Battle of Uhud [625]. Then, there were [Muslims] who thought that because they were right they would most certainly defeat the enemy. The [Muslims] paid a high price for this..." "By Means of Jihad - Allah Tortures [the Infidels] with Killing" "The question now on the agenda is, how is the torture Allah wants done at our hands to be carried out?... This torture will not, in any way, be carried out by means of preaching [Da'wa], because preaching is activity of exposure, aimed at clarifying the truth in a way that makes it more easily acceptable. Preaching has nothing to do with torture; Jihad is the way of torturing [the infidels] at our hands." "By means of Jihad, Allah tortures them with killing; by means of Jihad, Allah tortures them with injury; by means of Jihad, Allah tortures them with loss of property; by means of Jihad, Allah tortures them with loss of ruling. Allah tortures them by means of Jihad - that is, with heated war that draws its fire from the military front..." "The Tortures Will Bring the Infidels to the Path of Righteousness" "Material power is [to be] confronted with material power, and ideological power is [to be] confronted with ideological power... It would be idiocy to rely on the power of the truth in the face of F-16s. Allah is capable of destroying His enemy without anyone's mediation and without anyone's help, as His capability is absolute and unsurpassed. In spite of all the characteristics of power at their command, these infidel states are no more than a handful of creatures on the speck of dust called Planet Earth... [But] Jihad serves as a trial by suffering for the Muslims by means of the infidels, and for the infidels by means of the Muslims." "The Muslims' trial by suffering is manifested in Jihad's being the instrument by which it is possible to differentiate between the believers and the hypocrites... The infidels' trial by suffering is manifested in Jihad being an exemplary lesson in values, delivered by a group of the pioneers of the Islamic nation, in a practical presentation" "Many of the infidels will be shocked; their emotional entity will be shaken; and perhaps some of them will repent and learn their lesson. In addition, Jihad is a means of defeating them, and perhaps by means of this victory... the tortures will bring them back to the path of righteousness..." Endnotes: (1) Al-Ansar, No. 16, August 24, 2002, www.jehad.net . See MEMRI dispatches: No. 353: http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP35302 No. 344: http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP34402

[Sharif]

all i did was explain the teachings of Islam. some people bastardize the true teachings. they will be dealt with.

[BullDog108]

You explained nothing to me, you brainwashed zombie follower of the pedofile Mohammed. Go somewhere else and preach your hate. You have chosen the wrong forum. FReepers see thru the lies of Islam.

[desertcry]

I hope and pray that muslims throughout the world will heed
your advice, but so far it has fallen on deaf ears. I have not heard any strong condemnation from any muslim with any authority of the most evil act committed in the name of the Qu'ran on 9.11, and the homicide bombing of innocent children, and women civilian.

[desertcry]

Well said.

[BullDog108]

p.s. WHAT ABOUT INDONESIA?

WHY DO NOT YOU ANSWER YOUR LIES ABOUT THE SWORD AND INDIA FIRST?!?!

Then we'll talk about Indonesia.

[desertcry]

.....Muslim hating fanatics.... I wonder why.

[BullDog108]

We can translate for ourselves.

Translated: We'll say whatever we feel like.

[Light Speed]

Islam..The Quran...recieving instruction.

Kinda like the chaos that ensues when the "Big Giant Head" is contacted on the T.V. comedy program.. 3rd rock from the Sun.
Kinda scary....millions of Muslims trying to contact the Big Giant Head !

[desertcry]

There are muslims in the world willing to peacefully co-exist.. Where are they?

[desertcry]

But those who committed the murderous act on 9.11 were arabs, and I assume they read the arabic version of the Qu'ran. How could they have misunderstood the Qu'ran?

[Quix]

May your growth and progress in life include an intimate relationship with God Almighty--The God of Abraham.

[tet68]

Sir, I am more than willing to be friends and neighbors with you, however if you are not willing to curb those rabid animals of whatever persuasion you care to call them,WE will have to KILL them to protect ourselves and our families.

Try and grasp this fact, THEY HAVE DECLARED JIHAD AGAINST US.
THEY have attacked us , now you I hope, have not aided or abbetted them and I have no war with you. THEY on the other hand leave me no choice.

When I hear or read of Jihadists being turned in by upstanding Americans of the Muslim faith, then I will feel that the Muslim community is doing something to deal with those who have declared WAR against US.

Please note that I did not declare that ALL Muslims are dogs.
You asked us to let you rein them in, my only question to you is, "When?"

[Lurker]

Thanks Sharif.

Your 'people' are plotting to attack us (again.)

Therefor, by your interpretation of the Quran, it's perfectly acceptable for us to use any means necessary to wipe out those who are plotting to attack us, isn't it?

Please allow me to extend your logic to its conclusion...

The next time we see some crowd in the West Bank screaming "Death To America" after an attack, we will be free to use nerve gas on them. After all, they're actively supporting people who attack us, right?

The next time I see a mob of 'muslims' dancing around that black rock you worship in the Arabian desert shouting 'death to Jews!' and 'death to the infidels!' we will be perfectly justified in dropping a few Mark 82 nukes on them, right?

I mean, after all, violence is perfectly justified in the Quran if someone is attacking you, right?

Well, your 'people' have attacked us. They did so without warning, and without regard to the 'status' of the victims of your depraved religion. Your 'leaders' boast of their ability to kill non-combatants. They revel in it. They boast of it in your 'mosques'.

A whole bunch of folks who worshiped your stinking child screwing 'prophet' murdered a friend on mine. He was a member of this forum. More than one of your 'religious leaders' has said that this murder is something that your piece of s*** 'prophet' would approve of.

In fact, if I understand alright what the Quran states, his murder was in fact something that Mohamed (p*** be upon his head) would have condoned. Hell, even my Muslim friends (and I have more than one) can't explain to me why I'm not correct in my interpretation of the Quran.

Now, just to be fair, I'll enumerate what I haven't heard.

I haven't heard a single word condeming this view of Islam from a single Imam anywhere on my television set. I haven't seen one single Muslim stand up and say to those murdering monsters in Tehran, Ryiad, Baghdad, the West Bank, Gaza, or anywhere else that what they are doing is evil.

I haven't heard one single one of you renounce, denounce, forswear, or even mock any of the horrendous acts of violence committed in the name of 'mohamet'.

It appears to me dear Sharif, that your 'people' are rapidly becoming the modern day equivilant of Nazis. Your leaders brook no break from the party line of the most radical leaders of your creed.

To question any of the writings of this 'prophet' you bow down to three times a day earns a person the most hideous of death sentences. Does the name Rushdie mean anything to you?

Sorry pal, but I ain't buying into your sick little cult of Death.

Anyone who tells me that I am guaranteed 30 virgins if I kill some poor bastard who doesn't go to the same Church I do is a monster deserving nothing more than a peremptory toss on the same ash heap that the Incas are presently occupying.

Let me tell you something friend Sharif. If you don't start removing, by whatever means necessary, the whackos who have hijacked your 'religion', you will go the way of the Bushido sect which dominated Japan in the 1930's.

Pay attention to my words Sharif...

We had absolutely no compunction here against dropping a couple of nukes on Japan because of the intransigence of their leaders. We didn't want to do it, but we sure as s*** did it.

Do whatever it takes, but for the love of God, or Allah, or Buddah, or whoever it is you people worship do something to stop the monsters in your mosques, because I for one have no problem with us killing as many of you as is necessary for the rest of us to live the way we want to.

Regards,

L

[knighthawk]

I do not cut and past from anti-islamic sites. The quotes are from an online koran and hadith (http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/). The backgrounds to the suras are from the same site, which refers to things as the Battle of Badr. The translation is by Yusuf Ali, and I checked wether they are talking about kuffar or munafiq so I don't use verses where the English translation refers to 'unbelievers' as 'hyprocrites', but to non-muslims.

You are the one who started to resond with the koran and hadith. You try to show how wrong people where on islam, but you prefer to aviod the things I come up with. Why?

The thing is you cannot deny or distort the things mohammed said and done during his Medina periond:

Ka`b bin al-Ashraf was a Jewish man who denied mohammed was a real prophet. Mohammed asked his followers to kill him, because he did speak up against mohammed and his ways:

Sahih Burkhari, book 59, volume 5, number 369
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it."

I know that mohammed murdered or exile three Jewish tribes around Medina.

Sahih Bukrahi, volume 5, book 59, number 362:
Narrated Ibn Umar:
Bani An-Nadir and Bani Quraiza fought (against the Prophet violating their peace treaty), so the Prophet exiled Bani An-Nadir and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their places (in Medina) taking nothing from them till they fought against the Prophet again) . He then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims, but some of them came to the Prophet and he granted them safety, and they embraced Islam. He exiled all the Jews from Medina. They were the Jews of Bani Qainuqa', the tribe of 'Abdullah bin Salam and the Jews of Bani Haritha and all the other Jews of Medina.

I know what 'Sahih' means. I know what sura 8:67 means:

It is not fitting for a prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he hath thoroughly subdued the land. Ye look for the temporal goods of this world; but Allah looketh to the Hereafter: And Allah is Exalted in might, Wise.

This is no defensive warfare. This is war to establish islam.

Sahih Bukhari, volume 4, book 53, number 392:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
While we were in the Mosque, the Prophet came out and said, "Let us go to the Jews" We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras. He said to them, "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."

The hatemongering was done by mohammed, in the name of allah. It's hard to deny such evidence, is it?

[knighthawk]

FYI

[knighthawk]

"and I want to offer a new perspective on things"

We already heard the same kind of things hundered times over. We don't need another apologist, we need some one who is willing to help reform islam.

[wotan]

Listen Wotan, in my opinion, you are probably one of the most HATEFUL posters on FreeRepbulic.com. I, like most of the posters on FR, do not hate Muslims and we are not fanatics. FR encourages free speech, healthy debates and appreciates facts vs. horse manure. WE ABHOR TERRORISM. TERRORISTS ARE OUR ENEMIES. Period.

Cindy, you have lost all grip on reality. FR does not encourage free speech.

I have had several fact-based posts pulled because they have expressed opinions that the moderators did not like. I have had my posting privileges suspended twice for not abiding by certain unpublished rules. Once was quite clearly for disputing the moderator's judgment in pulling a post or for publicly requesting some clarification about what the rules are.

Unlike many people who continue to post here with no problem, I have never resorted to ad hominem attacks on other posters, despite the fact that ad hominem attacks are against the rules.

As for me being hateful, that's baloney too.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Just keep repeating to yourself, "Islam is a Religion of Peace"™.

[SauronOfMordor]

you can do your research with corrupted and incomplete translations of the Qur'an, but the only way that you will learn the true meanings is to learn Arabic and read the origional Arabic text.

The only people who will invest the time to learn Arabic in order to read the Qur'an are Muslims. The rest of us have to rely on translations, the vast majority being done by Muslims.

So, are you saying that no Arabic-speaking Muslim can do any better than produce a "corrupted and incomplete translation"? You statement reflects badly on the competence of your fellow Muslims. One would think, though, that you could find a competently done, complete Qur'an translation somewhere. Or at least a body of discussion about Arabic words that are difficult to translate

You're not doing that. You make statements about the Qur'an, and when someone responds with quotes that indicate that you are lying, you go into hand-waving mode about "Well, that's not what it really says"