Woman viciously attacked by pitbull; Dog attacked at least three other times (probation for dogs?)

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Woman viciously attacked by pitbull; Dog attacked at least three other times

By Maya Sanchez

KGET 17 News

08/27/02

Bakersfield - An Oildale woman wants some answers as to why a vicious dog, with a history of assault wasn't restrained.

Charlotte Reintz says it took just seconds yesterday for a pitbull to attack her.

She says she's traumatized and wonders why something wasn't done about the dog that has apparently attacked, not once, not twice, but at least three previous times.

Reintz was viciously attacked by a pitbull on Belle Avenue in Oildale while walking to a friend's house Sunday.

"I put my shirt out like this and it just started biting my shirt to keep it from biting me any more and it seemed like forever before somebody came out there," said Reintz.

Her piercing screams sent neighbors rushing from their homes to rescue her.

"I got up to see what it was and we brought her here in the yard," said neighbor Kenneth Caudillo. "The guy next door helped get the dog off of her and we helped her call 911."

Neighbors say the traumatic assault should never have happened.

"This animal had a dangerous order placed on it in Sept. of 2001, after a couple of incidents which required the animal to be maintained within its yard on a tether not less than 12 feet," said Steve McCalley of Kern County Environmental Health. "Apparently it has not been maintained consistent with the dangerous order."

Now, Reintz is nursing wounds in her hands, legs, and chest area, but she says her injuries run deep.

Reintz says she can't comment on whether she'll pursue any type of legal action in light of the attack.

The dog will remain under quarantine at the animal shelter pending the outcome of the investigation.

The owner has five business days to appeal the quarantine order before the dog is put down.

[B4Ranch]

Check your freep mail.

[HELLRAISER II]

Responsible practices makes all the difference in the world, but one thing to remember. Even if somebody's kids or dogs come over to your dog, you would be suprised to find out many people out there including some here at Free Republic would still blame you. We live in a world now that doesn't show any responsibility for their own actions. Make sure your property is posted at least with a beware of dog sign, i'm sure you've already taken care of that.

[HELLRAISER II]

We don't have many sightings of Panthers around here, although I saw what I thought was a Panther once. The Florida Panthers are very rare in North Florida much less South Georgia but I'm sure when I first moved to Georgia that a Panther was indeed what I saw. People don't realize just how powerful & deadly one can be however they do typically leave people alone.

[HELLRAISER II]

My Semi-auto .22 Mag is also a good gun for Coyotes.

[Protagoras]

they shouldn't get a third chance to do it again.

But a second chance would be OK.

[Protagoras]

Pit's are like any other dog,

Really? Not.

[HELLRAISER II]

Depends on what provacation there was on the first attack. I know you & I don't agree on Pits, we've had this discussion before. They should be treated like any other dog, if the law say's they have to be destroyed after the first attack. So be it.

[HELLRAISER II]

Opinions vary, you obviously don't agree and your entitled to your opinion. People that have these dogs take on a lot responsibility when they get one. If they are treated like a family pet & not an attack dog or game dog they will be good pets that will probably not attack anybody. Are there any gurantees? No, but any big dog can hurt somebody.

[Protagoras]

Depends on what provacation there was on the first attack.

True, I was making the assumption that the animal was not on the owner's property defending against an uninvited intruder but attacked someone there or elsewhere without being provoked.

I know you & I don't agree on Pits, we've had this discussion before. They should be treated like any other dog, if the law say's they have to be destroyed after the first attack. So be it.

You are right, we disagree. I believe the animal is dangerous and should be subject to the same rules as lions, tigers and bears. (Oh my)

[HELLRAISER II]

Have you ever been around a pit bull dog before or are you just making assumptions on what you've read.

[Snowy]

You are right, we disagree. I believe the animal is dangerous and should be subject to the same rules as lions, tigers and bears. (Oh my)

I recently have put Rots in with Pit Bulls as dogs that are too nasty for the average person. I have a golden retriever I was taking to training class. Our instructor, a nice, knowledgeable man, loves Rots. He has a Rot that HATES his wife, and his wife has one the HATES him. He is involved with the Rot rescue and invites those dogs to attend his training class. I stopped going to the class because of the attitude of those Rots. They would snarl and growl and lunge at other dogs for no reason. They were also never allowed off-lead. There was also one Rot who was as sweet as can be. So, in my experience, 90% of Rots cannot be trusted. Who wants a dog that they have to treat like an alligator? I just don't get it.

[HELLRAISER II]

Your right, who want's a dog who acts like a gator that might bite you at any time. But what you don't realize is that there are thousands of these dogs in the U.S. & yes Rottwielers & Pits are at the top of the lists of bad dogs. But 90% is an untrue percentage, I don't have the statistics because there is no way to know who owns what but I would bet that less than 1/2% of Rottwielers or Pits in the U.S. are involved with attacks. Not 90%.

[Snowy]

Your right, who want's a dog who acts like a gator that might bite you at any time. But what you don't realize is that there are thousands of these dogs in the U.S. & yes Rottwielers & Pits are at the top of the lists of bad dogs. But 90% is an untrue percentage, I don't have the statistics because there is no way to know who owns what but I would bet that less than 1/2% of Rottwielers or Pits in the U.S. are involved with attacks. Not 90%.

I didn't mean to imply that 90% of them are involved in attacks. I meant that 90% of the ones I saw in my various training classes should not be trusted around people. I base this on their behavior and the reactions of their owners and the instructor, who knows and loves Rots. This same instructor moved me and a few other people out of one class and into another because of all the nasty Rots in the first class. It was his suggestion, not ours. He also likes to tell the story about how he had to have part of his ear and finger sewn back on after trying to break up a fight between two of his Rots.

[Protagoras]

Have you ever been around a pit bull dog before or are you just making assumptions on what you've read.

I've been around a few, I avoid them whenever possible, along with ANY other breed of dog capable of overpowering and killing a person.

And as to assumptions, yes I assume that the hundreds and humdreds of news stories can't ALL be wrong when describing the unprovoked and often deadly attacks by breeds such as pitbull. I assume that the attacks actually happened and children are DEAD. It happened near Chicago fairly recently, two pits jumped the fence, ran into the nieghbor's yard and brutally mauled a 7 yr old child to death. Ripped his throat out and mangled his head and face so badly that he no longer looked like a person. I'm sure it was all hype. I'm sure I'm just a dupe of the media hysteria.

[dtel]

Having been a phone man for years, I spent more time than I would care to, around other people's dogs.
I got bitten many more times by the little ankle biters, don't worry it won't bite, well could you get the little turd off my leg then, than I did large dogs. As a matter of fact I was never bitten by a large dog.
Personally if it is not my dog, I don't want to be around it. I don't care what breed it is.

[HELLRAISER II]

I see, so you are basing your assumptions solely on one dumb @ss k-9 instructors dogs that he shouldn't have had in a class full of people and other dogs. Listen I'm not being a smart @ss & I realize you have to draw a conclusion on what you've seen but think about what i'm saying. First off Rotts & Pits for the most part do not like other dogs, I agree with your assesment on that. But that doesn't necessarily mean they are a danger to humans. I admit that my dogs will get another dog if he wonders up to my house, but I live on 150 acres and a stray dog doesn't belong there. But quite frankly that's my dogs job to keep Coyotes & other dogs away from the cattle & my horses. They are not however aggressive towards people, will they bark when somebody comes up? Of course, what dog will not. Then they fall all over & lick whoever climbs out of the car, that's the god's honest truth.

[dtel]

It appears to me the instructors have a problem.
Dogs, being pack animals, can only have one master (alpha male/ you know like al wanted to be) the instructors are competing amongst themselves to be the alpha, hence one dog defends one and hates the other.
I would suggest a different set of instructors, they don't have a clue and are in fact dangerous.

[Snowy]

The class had a lot of Rots, not those belonging to the instructor. They are fine dogs in the right atmosphere. If you need personal protection, then I would suggest a Rot. But, not allowing them off-lead in the class for fear of them tearing into another dog or ripping someone's arm off is simply crazy. Those dogs should be put down, because they are obviously out of everyone's control.

[HELLRAISER II]

Calm down T.J. i'm not trying to pick a fight with you, all i'm saying is that I believe you have probably read about a few incidents & I don't doubt that they were horrible & possibly fatal. But I do not believe for a minute that you can honestly tell me that you have read hundreds of articles about pit-bull attacks. I live in Georgia where the English bull dog (UGA's mascot) & Pit bull dogs are abundant, I haven't read more than 2 or 3 attacks in the U.S. period much less Georgia. By the way I don't think that people in Urban areas should have these dogs because of the possiblity of what happened to the Child there in Chicago. But that doesn't mean that there are those of us responsible enough to keep our dogs in check, in my case a bad dog regardless of the breed would be shot the first time it snapped at me or my family.

[B4Ranch]

The .22 Mag won't reach out and kill them at longer ranges. It justs wounds them. I don't want a wounded coyote running around.