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Christianity Harmful to Animals, Says Animal Rights Godfather
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 7/01/02 | Marc Morano

Posted on 07/01/2002 5:27:40 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: hobbes1
Typical Limo Liberal. Making all manner of grand Pronouncements in the Way things should be, to be applied to everyone NOT NAMED HIM.

He no doubt is fast friends with Barbara Streisand, a like minded person.

61 posted on 07/01/2002 6:59:53 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: anniegetyourgun
Why, look how much "cleaner" it is right here on FR, since "those folks" have been relegated to their own forum . . . .

Excellent point. The atheists couldn't bear to even see a reference to religion as they scrolled down FReeper Mainstreet, so they worked to have religion banned to a back alley where it wouldn't passively "assault" their eyes. That's the same foul spirit that was at work in 9th Circuit Pledge case.

But our liberty has begun to falter only in the past 70 years as atheism and humanism have aggressively pushed religion from the public fora of America and destructive pro-gay, pro-animal, anti-family, and anti-God forces have been let loose from the shadows and margins of society.

62 posted on 07/01/2002 7:06:10 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: kattracks
If the Good Lord din't want us to eat animals, then why'd He go and make 'em out of MEAT?

;oD
63 posted on 07/01/2002 7:13:55 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: anniegetyourgun
Why, look how much "cleaner" it is right here on FR, since "those folks" have been relegated to their own forum....

Speciesism is a terrible crime ya know!

64 posted on 07/01/2002 7:15:25 AM PDT by ladyinred
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To: kattracks; SpookBrat; Fidgit; Brad's Gramma
He wouldn't kill a spider but a human baby is up for execution?!
65 posted on 07/01/2002 7:23:34 AM PDT by homeschool mama
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To: logos
I'll agree with his nutty ideas when animals:

Talk

Bulid Computers

Teach Schools

Drive Cars

Clean up their on sh**

Pay taxes

Fly Airplanes

Until this all happens, they are no better than animals.

And you my stupid as*hole can shut the fu** up.

66 posted on 07/01/2002 7:26:02 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: kattracks
This fellow may just be the single stupidest person to ever walk the face of the earth.
67 posted on 07/01/2002 7:32:52 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Kevin Curry
Good post.

What Christians are considered to be ("enemies of mankind") by those rejecting Judaeo-Christian moral pronouncements is one thing. What Christians really are in the teleological analysis is another: They are, in the end, NOT enemies of mankind, but they ARE enemies of the bad guy, SATAN.

Lessee here...help me out with the syllogism...

1. Everyone following Satan considers all true Christians and their God to be an enemy.
2. Peter Singer considers all true Christians and their God to be an enemy.
3. ....
Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

It beggars the imagination to see what passes for discourse in Academia. Pray for Mr. Singer.

Blessings on Freepers everywhere.
68 posted on 07/01/2002 7:33:32 AM PDT by esopman
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To: kattracks
Clausen, whose book details the illegal activities of some members of the animal rights and environmental movements, believes the biggest threat the animal rights advocates pose is their ability to limit animal medical research.

Clausen is wrong. The animal "rights" movement poses a much bigger threat:

Finally, the projection of persona, spirit, or rights upon anything other than citizens is little more than a twisted democratic power play. It is a claim of an exclusive franchise to represent an artificial constituency. Maybe those plants do need protection; but who gets to decide by what means, and to what end? A biocentric perspective projects the spirituality of being into everything. To a deep ecologist, a rock would have a rock's spirit, a rock's consciousness, and thus deserves civil rights equivalent to human beings, which they alone purport to represent.

This is a debilitating thing to do to one's own mind, much less to a republic. To claim to represent the rights of rocks is to project a subjective human impression of a rock's preferences onto rocks. What if they were wrong? Perhaps the rocks might feel more appreciated by a mineral geologist who would want to make aluminum cans out of them? Did anybody ask the rocks? You guess.

When activists of any stripe demand rights for animals, rocks, or plants, what they are really doing is demanding disproportionate representation of their interests as the self-appointed advocates representing those constituents. Unfortunately, to enforce a right requires the police power of government, the only agent so capable. Government acquires this role because it is assumed a disinterested arbiter of competing claims.

History suggests quite the opposite, which is why limiting the number of enforceable rights is as important to liberty as is constituting them as such. When government gains the power to confer rights to any constituency, it acquires the means to confer power upon itself as an enforcing agent. There is then no limit to the power to dilute the rights of citizens. Civic respect for unalienable rights of citizens then exists not at all.

It is rather tragic that deep ecologists don't seem to understand their own motives, much less what preserves their freedom to express them. They understand even less of what preserves rights of citizens to protect their property from limitless democratic claims upon the use of ecosystem assets. Indeed, they exhibit direct antipathy to the principle of private property. If they don't understand the consequences of their actions or know where they're coming from, how could they know where they are going?

Source.
69 posted on 07/01/2002 7:40:22 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: kattracks
Standard leftist/atheist hypocrisy. He labels the Jewish worldview "ch*stian" because the Bible is more associated with chr*stianity than with Judaism. This way his opposition to Judaism escapes notice. Besides, most American Jews are opposed to the Jewish worldview which they also label "chr*stian." (And isn't Singer himself a Torah-rejecting Jew?)

But that hypocrisy is minor compared to the main point: right and wrong can exist only if a G-d Who created all things exists to define them. Anyone who doesn't believe in this Creator, who believes the world is a random, meaningless coincidence, has no business having any system of values, beliefs, ideals, or goals (since they are, by definition, merely personal hang-ups).

Dr. Singer, like every other atheist, should practice what he preaches by going out in a field somewhere and acting like the lump of matter he believes he is.

PS: The non-existence of G-d doesn't give animals "equal rights." It merely deprives everything of all meaning whatsoever. But idiotic atheists can't see it that way. No wonder they're so obsessed with "ethics."

70 posted on 07/01/2002 7:40:38 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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To: marvlus
Where do these people come from? The World of Oz?

Who knows, Hell maybe?

71 posted on 07/01/2002 7:48:24 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: kattracks
He explained that "there are some circumstances, for example, where the newborn baby is severely disabled and where the parents think that it's better that that child should not live, when killing the newborn baby is not at all wrong...not like killing the chimpanzee would be. Maybe it's not wrong at all."

Appauling, absolutely beyond the pail.

72 posted on 07/01/2002 7:49:05 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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To: Constantine XIII
If the Good Lord din't want us to eat animals, then why'd He go and make 'em out of MEAT?

And why did He make em taste so good? After all, I have heard others say that PETA stands for people eating tasty animals.

73 posted on 07/01/2002 7:57:51 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: kattracks
Princeton University Professor Peter Singer, dubbed the 'godfather' of animal rights

Lets correct this and dub him as the godfather of idiots.

74 posted on 07/01/2002 8:04:40 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: chiefqc
And you my stupid as*hole can shut the fu** up.

Before I say anything that might be construed as an "over-reaction," might I ask to whom that remark is directed?

75 posted on 07/01/2002 8:21:32 AM PDT by logos
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76 posted on 07/01/2002 8:33:51 AM PDT by shetlan
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To: kattracks
Singer, who was introduced as the "godfather" of animal rights, received three standing ovations during his keynote address on Saturday night, attended by about 400 people.

And they all want "tolerance" for themselves and their animal mates, marrage benifits, and animal/man adoption rights.
(Where do these mutants come from, anyway?)

77 posted on 07/01/2002 8:36:02 AM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: kattracks
...professor of bioethics at Princeton University's Center for Human Values

If ever there was a case of the title not representing the job being done, this is it.

How about "Shill For Satanism at Princeton Universtiy's Center for Nazi Ethics"?

Make no mistake, this is a dangerous man. And I'm guessing he's no atheist. That's a cover for something far worse. Princeton needs to get rid of this evil person. Pay him off if he has tenure. He is unfit to be teaching.

78 posted on 07/01/2002 8:36:59 AM PDT by Semi Civil Servant
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To: anniegetyourgun
May even have to require them to "get with the program" if they expect to take part in any of our institutions or economy, eh?

666

79 posted on 07/01/2002 8:42:05 AM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: splach78
It's a sad time when we value the "rights" of animals more than the rights of unborn babies.

Ain't that the truth!!

80 posted on 07/01/2002 8:43:55 AM PDT by wardaddy
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