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Christianity Harmful to Animals, Says Animal Rights Godfather
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 7/01/02 | Marc Morano

Posted on 07/01/2002 5:27:40 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: madfly
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41 posted on 07/01/2002 6:21:28 AM PDT by hammerdown
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To: Movemout
GMTA, my thoughts exactly, on reading the article, only I think mine was a pack of wolves. Man is still moving the grizzly out, but due to animal activists, has stupidly attempted to reverse the "conquer the wilderness, pioneer ethic", by bringing the wolf back into man's habitat, where man removed him 100 or so years ago. Common sense and animal activism resides at the pinnacle of oxymoron.
42 posted on 07/01/2002 6:22:06 AM PDT by wita
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To: marvlus
Singer is one evil son-of-a-bitch.
43 posted on 07/01/2002 6:24:53 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: kattracks

Clausen does not pull any punches when it comes to his opinion of the animal rights activists. "I have not come across one of these people who I did not consider to be mentally ill," Clausen said.

How are "animal rights" advocates different from any other part of the DNC ?


44 posted on 07/01/2002 6:24:57 AM PDT by pyx
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To: kattracks
I wonder if he feels the same about severely senile elderly.
45 posted on 07/01/2002 6:26:51 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: kattracks
"If we can't have animal research, we can't have solutions to medical problems. You just can't stop everything to save a chimpanzee," he told CNSNews.com.

The animal right movement is clearly having an affect on our culture. I was at the beach this weekend and while reading the bottle of sunscreen I came across the statement that it was "cruelty free" meaning, no animal testing. It implies that any animal testing is cruel.

It just struck me that clearly the company is being coerced into putting this nonsense on their product labeling. After a few years people will believe that any animal testing is by definition cruel.

46 posted on 07/01/2002 6:26:52 AM PDT by Fzob
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To: kattracks
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. - Genesis 1:27,28

As a Bible believing Christian, I will plead guilty to Dr. Singer's charge that I practice "speciesism". Of course, sinful man disobeying the commands of God, as in the case of Dr. Singer, is nothing new.

BTW: Princeton? What a sad commentary on the current state of this University that was founded by Bible believing Christians.

47 posted on 07/01/2002 6:32:20 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
I remember reading that Singer holds the same views on the infirm elderly, although he admitted to providing expensive care for his own elderly mother who is a victim of Alzheimer’s disease.
48 posted on 07/01/2002 6:34:08 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: mc5cents
Singer is exhibit "A" that some people are educated well beyond their intelligence.

In other words, Singer is the classic example of an intellectual.

49 posted on 07/01/2002 6:36:39 AM PDT by doc30
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To: katana
"I suppose if your comparison is Buddhism or certain Hindu sects, then the fact that most of us enjoy eating meat might strike some as cruel."

For most people, I'm not sure that choice has anything to do with it. It's a matter of body chemestry. We are omnivorous. Those canine teeth in our mouths aren't decorations. God made us to eat both meat and vegetables.

I love all animals. However, loving animals will not force me to make some goofy quasi-moral choice to bow out of the food chain. MEAT. It's what's for dinner.

50 posted on 07/01/2002 6:37:32 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: kattracks
I'm guessing that this guy is a big supporter of the Ninth Circuit Court.
51 posted on 07/01/2002 6:38:55 AM PDT by norton
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To: RightOnline
Yeah, if he suddenly stopped breathing, our world would be a better place.

52 posted on 07/01/2002 6:45:12 AM PDT by sport
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To: kattracks
When asked by CNSNews.com why humans should not be able to eat animals when animals eat other animals, Singer acknowledged that humans have to be held to a different standard.

"Animals generally are not making moral choices. Animals are not the same as humans. They can't reflect on what they are doing and think about the alternatives. Humans can. So there is no reason for taking what they do as a sort of moral lesson for us to take. We're the ones who have to have the responsibility for making those choices," he said.

And this was said after he decreed that humans are not superior to animals and bashed the Word of God.

53 posted on 07/01/2002 6:45:53 AM PDT by 3catsanadog
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To: kattracks
No surprise here.

Christians--especially conservative Christians--have long been considered "enemies of mankind" by pagans and atheists, dating from the first time that the Roman Emperor Nero used those words to condemn believers.

Do you champion "animal rights" and assert that a man is not inherently more valuable than a paramecium? Then you despise conservative Christians.

Do you champion "gay rights" and assert that traditional marriage and child-rearing are anti-woman and destructive to the social well-being of children? Then you despise conservative Christians.

Do you champion the ridding of public schools of all references to God and applaud the indoctrination of captive children into humanism by the pro-gay NEA on the public dime? Then you despise conservative Christians.

Do you champion the socialization and decriminalization of dope, pornography, and all sexual perversity as "harmless victimless behaviors"? Then you despise conservative Christians.

Do you champion materialism, Darwinism, and supreme selfishness and look to the short-sighted theories of potboiler writer Ayn Rand for your ethical guideposts? Then you despise conservative Christians.

Peter Singer embodies most of these anti-Christian sentiments. The only genuine difference between him and atheist libertarians is that he is an unabashed socialist who believes that society can overcome conservative Christian superstition by implementing a suffocating nanny sate. Atheist libertarians believe you can overcome Christian superstition and eliminate government at the same time; that there is such thing as a free lunch.

54 posted on 07/01/2002 6:49:08 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: kattracks
And he's been incrementally sneaking acceptance for sex between humans and animals into the mix.
55 posted on 07/01/2002 6:50:12 AM PDT by 3catsanadog
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To: cake_crumb
"Your dog can show you that it wants to go for a walk, and equally for non-violent sexual contact"
I think this line speaks volumes about the state of mind this wierdo is in!
56 posted on 07/01/2002 6:51:52 AM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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To: Kevin Curry
ow can any thread about this retard, not carry this (from Reson mag)....

Singer has made similarly controversial plunges into social policy. In a recent New York Times Magazine essay, he argued that the affluent in developed countries are killing people by not giving away to the poor all of their wealth in excess of their needs. How did he come to this conclusion? "If…allowing someone to die is not intrinsically different from killing someone, it would seem that we are all murderers," he explains in Practical Ethics. He calculates that the average American household needs $30,000 per year; to avoid murder, anything over that should be given away to the poor. "So a household making $100,000 could cut a yearly check for $70,000," he wrote in the Times.

Rigorous adherence to a single principle has a way of hoisting one by one's own petard. Singer's mother suffers from severe Alzheimer's disease, and so she no longer qualifies as a person by his own standards, yet he spends considerable sums on her care. This apparent contradiction of his principles has not gone unnoticed by the media. When I asked him about it during our interview at his Manhattan apartment in late July, he sighed and explained that he is not the only person who is involved in making decisions about his mother (he has a sister). He did say that if he were solely responsible, his mother might not be alive today.

Singer's proclamation about income has also come back to haunt him. To all appearances, he lives on far more than $30,000 a year. Aside from the Manhattan apartment-he asked me not to give the address or describe it as a condition of granting an interview-he and his wife Renata, to whom he has been married for some three decades, have a house in Princeton. The average salary of a full professor at Princeton runs around $100,000 per year; Singer also draws income from a trust fund that his father set up and from the sales of his books. He says he gives away 20 percent of his income to famine relief organizations, but he is certainly living on a sum far beyond $30,000. When asked about this, he forthrightly admitted that he was not living up to his own standards. He insisted that he was doing far more than most and hinted that he would increase his giving when everybody else started contributing similar amounts of their incomes. *****End excerpt****

Typical Limo Liberal. Making all manner of grand Pronouncements in the Way things should be, to be applied to everyone NOT NAMED HIM.

57 posted on 07/01/2002 6:51:54 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: kattracks
Who really cares what these brainless fools have to say? If animals are so much more important than humans, why don't they feed themselves to the animals?
58 posted on 07/01/2002 6:53:32 AM PDT by truth_session
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To: sport
"Yeah, if he suddenly stopped breathing, our world would be a better place."

Hey...isn't it his moral duty to stop breathing? With every inhalation, he steals valuable oxygen from the poor animals. With every exhalation, he adds greenhouse gasses to the atmosphere.

59 posted on 07/01/2002 6:53:56 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: dagoofyfoot
I see what they mean when they claim to be "animal lovers."
60 posted on 07/01/2002 6:57:05 AM PDT by truth_session
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