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Breaking: John Ashcroft says U.S. disrupted plans to attack U.S. with "dirty" radiation bomb.

Posted on 06/10/2002 7:30:38 AM PDT by Dales

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KEYWORDS: ashcroft; dirtybombplot; padilla
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To: Dave S; Sabertooth
Puerto Rico has a pretty large Arab/Muslim community. There's 5,000 to 6,000 living in the town of Rio Piedras, alone. Some of them made some pretty extreme and even hateful comments after 9/11.

PUERTO RICO: Arabs point out flaws of U.S. Policies in Mideast

A large percentage of these Arab/Muslims are store owners and bring in containers of merchandise all the time.

There are 17 U.S. military facilities and many federal government buildings in Puerto Rico.

There are groups in Puerto Rico, Los Macheteros, that have committed acts of terrorism in the past and that are still advocating terror, today. Clinton just released a bunch of them, as one of his final, patriotic acts.

A Navy convoy on the island of Vieques, Puerto Rico has already been fire bombed by members of a Marxist/Independence student group.

I wouldn't be surprised, if Al Queda was successful in recruiting alot of terrorist trainees of Puerto Rican descent.

721 posted on 06/10/2002 3:01:38 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: newgeezer
Agreed, sort of. Although their existence is justified by 911, theres no reason to believe whatever they tell us. I'm always suspicious of these foiled plot stories.
722 posted on 06/10/2002 3:01:59 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: homeschool mama
I graduated in '96 and it wasnt all flashy like it is now.
723 posted on 06/10/2002 3:06:59 PM PDT by smith288
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To: wardaddy
"careful..."hate" is not an acceptable word. You are simply not culturally attracted to rap music and it's poetic verse and expression."

LOL...yeah, that's it ( my apologies to anyone on this thread who might be OFFENDED by the word )...on the other hand, I have considerably less reason to profile my behavior in any way related to terroristic activities :- )

724 posted on 06/10/2002 3:07:32 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: PoppingSmoke
Where did you hear all that? Who said a US Atty couldn't charge him, etc. I haven't read any of that.
725 posted on 06/10/2002 3:08:13 PM PDT by Arizflash
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To: PoppingSmoke
Then arrest him off of US Soil. You can't have your cake and eat it to at the expense of the US Constitution.

Maybe he was arrested before he set foot on American soil. The two FBI agents who arrested him flew back from Switzerland to Chicago on the same flight with Jose'. He may have been arrested at O'Hare or he may have been arrested as soon as they cleared European airspace.

726 posted on 06/10/2002 3:08:45 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: PoppingSmoke
"If you wonder about Jihad Johnnie....he insists that he only wanted to join the Taliban; that he hadn't planned to meet girls"

....please allow me to make a correction...LOLing almost too hard to type...errr...that "Backspace" button can be a BAD thing....I mean he only want to join the Taliban and he DIDN'T WANT TO KILL AMERICANS. The "meet girls" was a bit of sarcasm I TRIED to edit out...

728 posted on 06/10/2002 3:14:05 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: cake_crumb
"Yes, Mujahir IS a native born citizen. In addition, he not only confessed, there is corroborating evidence which supports his confession. He therefore changed from a little fish up on a routine charge but under suspician to a Big Fish because the suspicions about him have been confirmed."

Nonsence. If he confessed as you said the US Attorney would have nailed him to the wall. Where is this corroborating evidence? If this was the case the US Attorney would have gotten his charge. He did not?

Zacharrias Moussaoui is not a US citizen. He is a French national, who was here on a student visa ( I think it was a student visa ) Moussaoui has NOT been as forthcoming as Mujahir apparently has, because Moussaoui is attempting to circumvent US law with Islamic law. I have not heard the judge is asking for ANY such proof of federal sources as some claim. I only know the DEFENSE asked for more time, which wasn't granted, then the fed asked for more time, and it was.

Moussaoui holds dual citzenship is being tried by a US Court, Why? What is the difference here? There is none. If Moussaoui is not a citizen as you suggest then it makes matters worse not better.

The cases, charges and nationalities of the perps is different, that's all.

This last statement is all nonsense.

729 posted on 06/10/2002 3:15:23 PM PDT by PoppingSmoke
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To: Dave S
"I dont know that they are charging him with treason, only with conspiracy to kill Americans, lower threshold. They also arrested his conspirator in Pakistan."

That makes TWO eyewitnesses....

730 posted on 06/10/2002 3:17:04 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: Dave S
"Maybe he was arrested before he set foot on American soil. The two FBI agents who arrested him flew back from Switzerland to Chicago on the same flight with Jose'. He may have been arrested at O'Hare or he may have been arrested as soon as they cleared European airspace."

No they allowed him to clear the custom zone. I think they figured they had him anyway.

731 posted on 06/10/2002 3:18:15 PM PDT by PoppingSmoke
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To: texasbluebell
Vic (SHIELD) could have him chirping in seconds.
732 posted on 06/10/2002 3:18:54 PM PDT by cliff630
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To: the new spoosman
Use your all-seeing-eye to tell you who planned the 9/11 attack, as well as the Cole, several other things as well. If it turns out to be somebody other than the man, OBL, who out of his OWN mouth claimed credit for it, then I wanna know. You seem to know so much about this new agency. BS. Nobody knows yet, how it will turn out. Sounds pretty good up front. Let 'em try it. It ain't expansion, it's consolidation. Turns out that's not the case, then gripe about it. I've heard enough about that big government Republican from Texas crap. What you want, a big a$$ed Democrat from New York? Or some third party looser, guaranteed to put another Democrat in office.
733 posted on 06/10/2002 3:19:02 PM PDT by Arizflash
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To: Dave S
"You have such a fixation on the Pearl Murder video it makes one wonder if you maybe get some pornographic kick from it. After all there is a market out there for snuff videos."

Say What??? Pornographic??? Whew.. what the heck have you been smokin?

Also.. I had no idea there is a market for "snuff videos". But you do. Now tell me who is strange??

Just for your information, what happened to Danny Pearl is real. Get it? REALITY CALL!!! Woo hooooo.. hello? Anyone home!! (doubt it!)

734 posted on 06/10/2002 3:21:24 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
We stop him with the actions the President is trying to take. We stop being BLEEDING HEARTS when it comes to this Nations security! And, we phone tap. (Can't ya just hear the liberal press and ACLU'ers on that one!!!)

We've got to stop the PC nonsense before there's another major attack, but I'm still worried that not enough people are on board about battening down the hatches. I'm afraid another big attack will occur before people really wake up!

735 posted on 06/10/2002 3:21:49 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
don't you dare preempt my Angels, the hottest team in baseball!
736 posted on 06/10/2002 3:23:13 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: texasbluebell
I know. We are worried too.. the only thing that gives us hope is that our President is doing his job, instead of worrying about Poll numbers. He is facing the hardest times of a President in History. Multitude of things happening simultaneously, and yet, he is doing his job. Which just might explain why the public as a whole is behind him like they are.

I'm not saying there won't be times I question what his policies are..and in fact, I think he has shown that not only can he handle the job.. but he is "willing" to change his mind once he is convinced it is the best thing for this country.

We are in the right hands, and we are safer than I'd thought we could be. But like you said.. that in no way means we are safe. To let our gaurd down now, would be suicidal!!

Lets hope Americans don't become complacent!! NOW is NOT the time!!

FRegards!!


737 posted on 06/10/2002 3:28:26 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: PoppingSmoke
"This last statement is all nonsense."

Yes I know it was...please see my correction nember 728 and accept my sincere apologies....if I try to explain my stupidity again, I'll only atart laughing again.

As for Moussaoui, he does NOT hold any citizenship in the US. Unlike the the Moussaoui case, there are not only witnesses but what the fed apparently believes is a solid confession in Mujahir's case.

If you think it is nonsense that the cases, charges and nationalities of the perps are different, you have never studied law.

I'm not sure what you are really asking here...if you are wondering if the fed will go for the death penalty in both cases, it is likely. The chances for success, I am not willing to speculate at.

738 posted on 06/10/2002 3:29:16 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Say What??? Pornographic??? Whew.. what the heck have you been smokin? Also.. I had no idea there is a market for "snuff videos". But you do. Now tell me who is strange??

Hey bud, you are the one that keeps viewing this video and encouraging others to watch it... even though you know it will make them sick. Apparently you get some gratification from this bizarre shit. I know what's in the video. I dont need to watch it to gird my resolve for getting the idiots behind this and other attacks on Americans. Maybe you are just trying to do good but if you find you're still watching that thing a couple weeks from now, its time to seek help.

739 posted on 06/10/2002 3:33:10 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Tancredo Fan
No kiddin, keep dem humble workers coming cross that border, at least we will know all the terrorists are here locally and won't have to go all the way to Afghanistan to look for them.
740 posted on 06/10/2002 3:33:58 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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