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Fortuyn Party Soars in Polls
BBC News ^ | 13 May 2002

Posted on 05/13/2002 11:57:12 AM PDT by July 4th

Pim Fortuyn

Fortuyn's party has attracted new voters since his death

Support for the party of anti-immigration politician Pim Fortuyn has been increasing since his murder a week ago, a Dutch opinion poll has suggested.

Projected seats

31 Christian Democrats

28 Pim Fortuyn's List

25 Labour

25 Liberals

15 Greens

Nipo poll

With only two days left before Wednesday's general election, Pim Fortuyn's List has overtaken Labour to take second place with 18.5% of the votes, according to the survey by the Nipo research bureau.

A poll by another organisation, Nova, on 3 May put him on 12.4% support, while a Nipo survey on 1 May gave him 17%.

The new poll - the first since Mr Fortuyn's death - puts him only two percentage points behind the leaders, the right-wing Christian Democrats, whose support registers at 20.5%.

Wim Kok

Wim Kok's Labour party has been beaten into third

Support for Mr Fortuyn's party was registered at 18.5%, which would give it 28 of the country's 150 seats.

The Labour Party of outgoing Prime Minister Wim Kok has slid to 16.5%, the poll suggests - dramatically lower than the 29% it achieved in the 1998 election.

If the poll is accurate, it would mean Labour losing nearly half its 45 seats.


The sympathy vote will generate extra support - the problem is that no-one knows if they are able to offer suitable people for the


Kees Lunshof
Political commentator

All election campaigning was stopped after Mr Fortuyn's murder, but BBC correspondents said it had been thought that his party could benefit from a sympathy vote.

Dutch political commentators told BBC News Online that Mr Fortuyn's party was very likely to be in the new Dutch cabinet, if the poll predictions were accurate.

His party could get as many as four or five seats in the 12-member cabinet, said Kees Lunshof of De Telegraaf newspaper.

Mourner at Pim Fortuyn funeral

The Netherlands was shocked at Pim Fortuyn's murder

"The sympathy vote will generate extra support," he told BBC News Online.

"The problem is that no-one knows if they are able to offer suitable people for the job - it's such a new party."

And Frank Poortuyes, of De Volkskrant newspaper, said the left was "taking a hammering" partly because some voters held it responsible for demonising Mr Fortuyn, thereby playing a role in his murder.

The margin of error of the opinion poll is 1.8% for the big parties.

More than 2,100 people were interviewed, fewer than the usual sample of 3,000, as polling was also suspended temporarily after Mr Fortuyn's death.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assassination; netherlands; pimfortuyn
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To: ecomcon
De Volkskrant means the "People's Paper." I have no idea of the etymology of "krant" meaning "newspaper." I can't think of any related words in English or German.
41 posted on 05/13/2002 3:05:02 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
Dunno for sure, but anything with Volks in it has gotta be leftwing.
42 posted on 05/13/2002 3:05:03 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: aristeides
Yes, De Volkskrant (Peoplespaper), also called the red paper, is the most left mainstream newspaper. Marcel van Dam, the number one demonizer (also one of the people who are reported to the police by two lawyers for his comments on Fortuyn) is columnist there.
43 posted on 05/13/2002 3:05:32 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
I'll be waiting for your election reports too. Always a pleasure to read your posts, knighthawk.
44 posted on 05/13/2002 3:12:18 PM PDT by PoisedWoman
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To: aristeides
My guess would be "Current". Like the "Hartford Current" or something. I liked the "rant" part. "The People's Rant". That'd be a good leftist paper.
45 posted on 05/13/2002 3:18:09 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: PoisedWoman
Thanks. I added you to the list for Dutch news/elections.
46 posted on 05/13/2002 3:21:26 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: DoughtyOne
"What is taking place is not just an invasion. It is the managed subjegation of sovereign peoples and their homelands. It is being facilitated by the elected leaders of the free world. "

Yup, and GWB's administration are 'open border' folks.

47 posted on 05/13/2002 3:22:09 PM PDT by blam
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To: knighthawk; aristeides

Peter Langendam (links), nummer twee van de LPF-kandidatenlijst Joao Varela (midden)
en vice-voorzitter Dost (rechts).

If every picture tells a story, I read this one as Varela being pushed out of his no. 2 spot. Not surprising, since he's only 28. Here's a link to the related story.

48 posted on 05/13/2002 3:37:08 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: knighthawk; aristeides
BTW, I don't think this fellow pulls off the "At your service" salute as well as Fortuyn.

KN - I saw a video clip of Fortuyn doing his "At your service" salute. It was a snappy salute. And he spoke in English -- why? My read was he was perhaps imitating, from movies or television, the manners of a dutiful and efficient British officer. But I'm not Dutch. What do you think?

49 posted on 05/13/2002 3:41:32 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: blam
Yes, much to my consternation you are right.
50 posted on 05/13/2002 3:45:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Vigilanteman
You miss a key point: We are not deally with Turks in Turkey. We are dealing with the ex-patriots.

Generally speaking emmigrants leave a country because they are unhappy with it either economically or politically. Thus to assume that the Turks in Europe are as secular as those in Turkey is a mistake.

51 posted on 05/13/2002 3:51:12 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: Shermy; knighthawk
Thanks for the link. So Langendam has now become party chairman. What significance does that have for potential cabinet appointments?
52 posted on 05/13/2002 3:51:32 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Shermy
Hey, these guys have their own uniform.
53 posted on 05/13/2002 3:53:27 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Shermy
I don't know. But it's a catchy slogan. Many people use it now here. Did the clip also include him dancing around the stage? And did it catch his emotions as his name was announced to become their leader when he was still sitting in the audience? He almost cried.

At your service, Pim Fortuyn!

Here fo a very good series of photos from his funeral

(Click on "Dezelfde foto's in hoge resolutie" for high resolution version, the rest of the links lead to more images)

IN MEMORIAM
PIM FORTUYN
1948 - 2002

54 posted on 05/13/2002 4:00:25 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: aristeides
He already made an impact accusing a lot of people for the demonization. Wik Kok was angry and said Langendam 'crossed the border'. Wim Kok is a leftist hypocrite, he makes me barf. Under him my countrt was wrecked. So many people are glad he is gone now. The PvdA, his party, is polled to fall from 45 to 25 seats! Good riddance!
55 posted on 05/13/2002 4:04:06 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: Birds Of A Feather
The two main impediments to organized opposition to the Immigration Invasion are the media monopoly (which gave us the Immigration Invasion) and religious nuts (whose missionary zeal cancels out any racial loyalty they may have felt).

I would suggest that the single greatest impediment is the Big Lie, which the Left has promoted for two generations, that we are all basically the same. I have just posted the following on the internet, which suggests how we should answer this lie: The Big Truth.

William Flax

57 posted on 05/13/2002 4:18:53 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Phillip Augustus
Hmm... and then "USA for the Native Americans?" Guess you were born "Little Running Bear" so that you can stay in...
58 posted on 05/13/2002 4:33:17 PM PDT by austinTparty
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To: knighthawk
please bump me to the election thread ... should be interesting :-)
59 posted on 05/13/2002 4:34:00 PM PDT by fnord
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To: fnord
See you Wednesday!
60 posted on 05/13/2002 4:34:55 PM PDT by knighthawk
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