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The myth of socialization: Kyle Williams debunks lies about home-schooling
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, April 27, 2002 | Kyle Williams

Posted on 04/27/2002 2:36:15 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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1 posted on 04/27/2002 2:36:15 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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Mr. Williams is quite correct in his debunking of that socialization myth. What a guy! Great things ahead for young Mr. Williams.
2 posted on 04/27/2002 2:50:59 AM PDT by Cindy
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And he's only 13 years old. His parents must be beaming with pride.
3 posted on 04/27/2002 2:55:02 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: *HomeSchool_list;*Education News

4 posted on 04/27/2002 3:19:30 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: JohnHuang2
BOOKMARKED
Education BUMP
5 posted on 04/27/2002 3:19:53 AM PDT by ppaul
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And he's only 13 years old. His parents must be beaming with pride.

There are a couple of points where this article still needs a little bit of polishing, but... dang! I wouldn't have thought it was written by a 13-year-old who looks like this:

I'll tell you what else. I'll bet you a hundred dollars to a doughnut Kyle actually knows how to talk to an adult. Intelligently and sociably.

I'm thinking right now of the 13-year-old public-schooled boy who used to live in our old neighborhood... {shudder}

6 posted on 04/27/2002 4:16:38 AM PDT by john in missouri
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Nice post.

Which socialization is the NEA most concerned about? That which occurs on the scool bus or that which occurs on the playground?

Children able to make friends with adults? Scandalous!

The NEA has their head in the sand when it comes to home schooling.

7 posted on 04/27/2002 4:34:23 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: john in missouri
I'll bet you ... Kyle actually knows how to talk to an adult. Intelligently and sociably.

Maybe, but I bet he's way behind on making body function sounds, telling rude jokes, and making fun of other kids. (As far as I can tell, that's what they mean by "socialization.")

8 posted on 04/27/2002 5:02:06 AM PDT by Gil4
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BUMPING for my homeschooled nieces & nephews!

("socialization"...give me a break....I know!..let's promote kids who can't read or write onto higher grades because it's better for them "socially" to move up with their peers. Yeah - that happens ALL THE TIME in the real world, doesn't it? Sure, my husband was just promoted to VP because the guy that sat next to him was...and the company wanted to be fair.....NOT!).

9 posted on 04/27/2002 5:17:02 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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You all don't understand the code. When the NEA says that home schooled students are not properly socialized, what they mean is that they are not properly brain washed into accepting the sociaist propaganda that most of the schools teach.

It is only in the last 100 years that we hearded children of the same age together and treated them all like prison convicts. Some have claimed it was a deliberate policy started in Prussia to produce compliant subjects. From what I can tell, there is much truth to this claim.

10 posted on 04/27/2002 5:31:59 AM PDT by marktwain
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I was going to say pretty much the same thing. They aren't worried about them getting along with other kids, they are worried that they are escaping from the brainwashing camps.
11 posted on 04/27/2002 5:39:02 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Cindy
The socialization of young people thru MTV, Jr. High sexcapades, media sitcoms, crass consumerism and government school's SPORTS PROGRAMS is kids raising kids with mutual stupidity. Socialization is of a higher order when kids are more often a functioning part of the larger community of responsible adults. NEA is scared of the comparisons being made...and they should be.
12 posted on 04/27/2002 5:41:09 AM PDT by Republican Babe
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"Maybe if public schools learned from home-schoolers and focused less on socializing in class and focused more on learning, the average test score for public school students might be greater than 50 percent."

When I was in college in 1970, I had a Differential Equations "teacher". I don't remember his name, but he was so tall he had to duck in the door frame to enter the room. He was also red-headed. Being young, introverted, and naive, I didn't speak up much. But this so-called teacher talked so much about how bad it was that we were in VietNam that we rarely had a real lesson in DE. I got a B in the course, but didn't learn anything. Now I'm an engineer, and it was quite difficult to solve certain problems; I had to do substantial self-study to make up for what I paid for and didn't get.

I see this so common in grade school and high school today. My two kids came home and told me things, not about their lessons, but about their teachers' points of view on current events.

It's no wonder our population leans toward the liberal. The kids are being taught - not their supposed lessons, but politics - they're brainwashed every day in school. I think that may be one reason that we have so much teenage rebellion these days.

13 posted on 04/27/2002 5:52:41 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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You all don't understand the code

that's 'cuz I was PUBLIC-SCHOOLED (snicker, snicker).....and I think you have a point there, Mr. Twain.

14 posted on 04/27/2002 6:16:00 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: JohnHuang2
bump
15 posted on 04/27/2002 6:31:27 AM PDT by Maelstrom
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BTTT
16 posted on 04/27/2002 8:24:05 AM PDT by PeteF
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I, as a home-schooler, am tired of my intelligence being insulted every time I turn around. Probably the most fabricated or misconstrued idea about home-schooling is that the child is inhibited from obtaining essential socialization skills.

In other words, the homeschooled child is uncomfortable interspersing every sentence with the "F" word.

17 posted on 04/27/2002 8:52:29 AM PDT by 3catsanadog
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The largest group spreading this disinformation is the National Education Association. In its 2000-2001 Resolutions, it writes, "The National Education Association believes that home schooling programs cannot provide the student with a comprehensive education experience."

In other words, the homeschooled child is not adept at putting a condom on a banana.

18 posted on 04/27/2002 8:54:01 AM PDT by 3catsanadog
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"Some have claimed it was a deliberate policy started in Prussia to produce compliant subjects. From what I can tell, there is much truth to this claim."

You might like the John Taylor Gatto book The Underground History of American Education, linked on my profile page.

19 posted on 04/27/2002 9:48:48 AM PDT by toenail
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To: Gil4
Maybe, but I bet he's way behind on making body function sounds, telling rude jokes, and making fun of other kids. (As far as I can tell, that's what they mean by "socialization.")

Oh. I thought they meant a "screw-you" attitude toward adults, academics, and life in general; tendencies towards violence; and intimate knowledge of and experimentation with various deviant (but NEA-approved) sexual practices.

20 posted on 04/27/2002 9:57:42 AM PDT by john in missouri
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