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Saturday, April 27, 2002

Quote of the Day by Poohbah 4/27/02

1 posted on 04/27/2002 2:36:15 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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Mr. Williams is quite correct in his debunking of that socialization myth. What a guy! Great things ahead for young Mr. Williams.
2 posted on 04/27/2002 2:50:59 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: *HomeSchool_list;*Education News

4 posted on 04/27/2002 3:19:30 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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BOOKMARKED
Education BUMP
5 posted on 04/27/2002 3:19:53 AM PDT by ppaul
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Nice post.

Which socialization is the NEA most concerned about? That which occurs on the scool bus or that which occurs on the playground?

Children able to make friends with adults? Scandalous!

The NEA has their head in the sand when it comes to home schooling.

7 posted on 04/27/2002 4:34:23 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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BUMPING for my homeschooled nieces & nephews!

("socialization"...give me a break....I know!..let's promote kids who can't read or write onto higher grades because it's better for them "socially" to move up with their peers. Yeah - that happens ALL THE TIME in the real world, doesn't it? Sure, my husband was just promoted to VP because the guy that sat next to him was...and the company wanted to be fair.....NOT!).

9 posted on 04/27/2002 5:17:02 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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"Maybe if public schools learned from home-schoolers and focused less on socializing in class and focused more on learning, the average test score for public school students might be greater than 50 percent."

When I was in college in 1970, I had a Differential Equations "teacher". I don't remember his name, but he was so tall he had to duck in the door frame to enter the room. He was also red-headed. Being young, introverted, and naive, I didn't speak up much. But this so-called teacher talked so much about how bad it was that we were in VietNam that we rarely had a real lesson in DE. I got a B in the course, but didn't learn anything. Now I'm an engineer, and it was quite difficult to solve certain problems; I had to do substantial self-study to make up for what I paid for and didn't get.

I see this so common in grade school and high school today. My two kids came home and told me things, not about their lessons, but about their teachers' points of view on current events.

It's no wonder our population leans toward the liberal. The kids are being taught - not their supposed lessons, but politics - they're brainwashed every day in school. I think that may be one reason that we have so much teenage rebellion these days.

13 posted on 04/27/2002 5:52:41 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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bump
15 posted on 04/27/2002 6:31:27 AM PDT by Maelstrom
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BTTT
16 posted on 04/27/2002 8:24:05 AM PDT by PeteF
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I, as a home-schooler, am tired of my intelligence being insulted every time I turn around. Probably the most fabricated or misconstrued idea about home-schooling is that the child is inhibited from obtaining essential socialization skills.

In other words, the homeschooled child is uncomfortable interspersing every sentence with the "F" word.

17 posted on 04/27/2002 8:52:29 AM PDT by 3catsanadog
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The largest group spreading this disinformation is the National Education Association. In its 2000-2001 Resolutions, it writes, "The National Education Association believes that home schooling programs cannot provide the student with a comprehensive education experience."

In other words, the homeschooled child is not adept at putting a condom on a banana.

18 posted on 04/27/2002 8:54:01 AM PDT by 3catsanadog
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"They were concerned that homeschooled students were not provided a comprehensive education experience because they did not have an opportunity to interact with students of different cultures, economic status or learning styles."

When did this become a requirement for receiving one's high school diploma? Are grades in "tolerance and understanding toward the dregs of society" now included on public school transcripts? (For cryin' out loud, I hope I'm not giving them any new ideas here........)

21 posted on 04/27/2002 10:11:28 AM PDT by freedox
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Socialization = Appeasing minorities, appeasing homosexuals, appeasing leftist enviro-whackos. In short, it means learning to live under the hegemony of arseholes.
26 posted on 04/27/2002 1:29:55 PM PDT by wattsmag2
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I think the NEA is absolutely right about how only public schools can socialize children; but let's think what that means, shall we?

It means that my home-schooled children won't succumb to being the public property of a bureaucratic police state.

30 posted on 04/27/2002 1:51:52 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To make sure my boys are not missing out on the publik skool socialization, once a week I take them into a bathroom, beat them up and steal their shoes and jackets.
32 posted on 04/27/2002 3:31:20 PM PDT by don-o
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Of course the problem is that the NEA has no good argument against Home Schooling. Their academic record is outstanding. The price to the taxpayer is outstanding, the juvenile police record is all but none existent, etc.

It is hard to refute an unsupported assertion, such as the charge that Home Schoolers are not properly socialized. In my community the lie is highlited in neon lights. Some Home Schoolers would like to participate in the nearby school's extracurricular activites. (sports, band, etc.) This is not allowed. The NEA is opposed. If they were truly concerned about Home Schoolers socialization, they would welcome this participation.

Godspeed, The Dilg

36 posted on 04/27/2002 6:06:22 PM PDT by thedilg
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Bump
38 posted on 04/27/2002 6:31:15 PM PDT by Goldsters
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home schooling bump!
41 posted on 04/27/2002 8:18:28 PM PDT by tutstar
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The next time someone asks you, "aren't you concerned about socialization?" firmly reply, "Not really. My child gets socialized at home. Once a day I take her into the bathroom, beat her up and steal her lunch money."
49 posted on 04/28/2002 5:08:16 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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HERE ARE MY THOUGHTS:

I must tell you that I was very impressed with the article. It was very well written and I think Kyle has a future as a columist and maybe as a radio talk show host. We could sure use more people like him.

What the education establishment had better realize is that there are far more important things in life than this kumbya "let's all get along" nonsense they're pushing. Gaining skills and knowledge in vital fields takes precedence over socializing and getting along as far as I'm concerned and I know theere are far more people who agree with me than disagree with me on this point.

There is never going to be any getting along between christians and conservatives and athiests and progressives. The latter does not want to co-exist peacefully with the former.They only want to co-exist until they can control, dominate and eventually destroy.

It is not our responsibility as conservatives and christians to appease or get along with or avoid offending athiests and progressives. To say otherwise is not only short-sighted, but stupid, idiotic and foolish.
Regards.

52 posted on 04/28/2002 5:49:25 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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Bump for a great post! All children of National Education Association members should be required to attend inter-city schools without bodyguards. They need to socialize.
56 posted on 04/28/2002 7:39:06 AM PDT by Temple Owl
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