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The myth of socialization: Kyle Williams debunks lies about home-schooling
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, April 27, 2002 | Kyle Williams

Posted on 04/27/2002 2:36:15 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: JohnHuang2
"They were concerned that homeschooled students were not provided a comprehensive education experience because they did not have an opportunity to interact with students of different cultures, economic status or learning styles."

When did this become a requirement for receiving one's high school diploma? Are grades in "tolerance and understanding toward the dregs of society" now included on public school transcripts? (For cryin' out loud, I hope I'm not giving them any new ideas here........)

21 posted on 04/27/2002 10:11:28 AM PDT by freedox
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To: 2Jedismom; 2sheep; Aliska;Aquinasfan; argee; Askel5; arielb; Artist;backhoe; B4Ranch...
Bump for Homeschooling parents and kids. Great article.
22 posted on 04/27/2002 10:47:21 AM PDT by madfly
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bump
23 posted on 04/27/2002 1:17:35 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: madfly
Thanks!
24 posted on 04/27/2002 1:17:44 PM PDT by Artist
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To: madfly; Lizavetta; wasp69; cantfindagoodscreenname; BallandPowder; wyopa; joathome; Momto2...
Ping!
25 posted on 04/27/2002 1:23:05 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: JohnHuang2
Socialization = Appeasing minorities, appeasing homosexuals, appeasing leftist enviro-whackos. In short, it means learning to live under the hegemony of arseholes.
26 posted on 04/27/2002 1:29:55 PM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: Carry_Okie
ping for you and your daughters!
27 posted on 04/27/2002 1:30:55 PM PDT by madfly
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To: freedox
Are grades in "tolerance and understanding toward the dregs of society" now included on public school transcripts?

Don't be surprised if they are, under the heading of "Respect for others"

The primary purpose of the public school is to ensure indoctrination of the kids into whatever passes for the "Party Line". Always has been. Teaching them to read and write is just what they do to reduce complaints by parents. (The secondary purpose is to be a jobs program for "progressive" activists)

28 posted on 04/27/2002 1:37:52 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: Tom Bombadil
Which socialization is the NEA most concerned about?

To the NEA "socialization" means mainly preparing kids for socialism.

When it refers to social skills, on the other hand, socialization means getting kids to learn about:

* what it's like to be bullied by bigger kids;
* what extortion of your lunch money is like;
* what being ridiculed by your fellow "students" feels like;
* how to learn to "hold your water" so you don't have to risk going to the bathroom and being beaten up;
* how to receive ridicule and condescension from teachers;
* how to obey authority and how to comply with their wishes, even if your rights or well-being or even sanity is being violated as a result;
* how to accept Ritalin when the brain-dead environment of school makes you act out, out of sheer desperation;
* which new hate words to use to replace the old hate words (e.g., how to call low IQ kids "speds" instead of "retards" -- same difference);
* how to hate whites, regardless of which race you are!
* how useless manners are;
* how to accept perversions of all kinds as "normal"; and the corrolary, of how to accept that moral behavior is to be considered unusual and deviant.

Well, there's more, but this is the main kind of socialization that a kid really learns in school.

29 posted on 04/27/2002 1:50:59 PM PDT by Jay W
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To: JohnHuang2; madfly
I think the NEA is absolutely right about how only public schools can socialize children; but let's think what that means, shall we?

It means that my home-schooled children won't succumb to being the public property of a bureaucratic police state.

30 posted on 04/27/2002 1:51:52 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: marktwain
You all don't understand the code. When the NEA says that home schooled students are not properly socialized, what they mean is that they are not properly brain washed into accepting the socialist propaganda that most of the schools teach.

Egads! They can't have free-thinking kids around to blow their cover, can they?

I'm proud to say I have 'educated' many of my friends this year about homeschooling. I was VERY active at both Catholic elementary schools my kids attended so I knew a LOT of people. When we decided to homeschool this year, I was CONTINUALLY asked about socialization. I reminded them that our kids would still be in their Scout troops and be involved with Parish activities. And they get in trouble for 'socializing' during class anyway, don't they? They already knew that Sir SuziQ and I could provide an education better than they were receiving in either school.

Frankly the kids are just as happy to stay home and do their work at their own speed, which alternates between tortoise and lightning on various days. And when they feel like getting together with friends, they do. We've always encouraged our kids, schooled or not, to speak respectfully to and converse with other adults. They won't have a problem with that at all.

I am truly impressed with the article that young man wrote. I know MY kids couldn't do that right now, and there are some homeschooled kids who won't ever be that eloquent, and that's fine. But he is a wonderful representative for our kids.

31 posted on 04/27/2002 3:09:17 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: JohnHuang2
To make sure my boys are not missing out on the publik skool socialization, once a week I take them into a bathroom, beat them up and steal their shoes and jackets.
32 posted on 04/27/2002 3:31:20 PM PDT by don-o
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To: Real Cynic No More
We have less teen rebellion today than we did 30 years ago. They have been trained by the PC crowd to be good little socialists and keep their mouths shut. It's a pity.
33 posted on 04/27/2002 3:38:49 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: ladylib
Yeah, they become good little socialists and keep ther mouths shut; but not at home.

I remember by kid's PS approved social skills at work in my house: the twelve-year-old telling me I had no right to go into her room, to know with whom she was hanging around; snotty replies to my requests. The change was radical, and coincided with the start of her middle school year. That must have been the "magic" they spoke of: "Goodbye dad and mom, I belong to them, now."

We were informed the nine-year-old needed drugs. This beautiful, creative kid couldn't pay attention, was a bully, and intimidated her teachers. Butthole teachers: THE KID COULDN"T READ!!!!! But they only cared about her ability to be an obedient object.

We homeschooled from that time, and now that the kids are in college where being smart and polite isn't seen as a sign of weakness; they're popular, trusted , confident , and respected by their instructors and friends.

The public schools' five-year socialization plan is a destroyer of otherwise useful lives.

34 posted on 04/27/2002 4:47:47 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: Cindy
I can't tell you the number of times our CEO has said, "get me a world class speller".
35 posted on 04/27/2002 4:58:04 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: JohnHuang2
Of course the problem is that the NEA has no good argument against Home Schooling. Their academic record is outstanding. The price to the taxpayer is outstanding, the juvenile police record is all but none existent, etc.

It is hard to refute an unsupported assertion, such as the charge that Home Schoolers are not properly socialized. In my community the lie is highlited in neon lights. Some Home Schoolers would like to participate in the nearby school's extracurricular activites. (sports, band, etc.) This is not allowed. The NEA is opposed. If they were truly concerned about Home Schoolers socialization, they would welcome this participation.

Godspeed, The Dilg

36 posted on 04/27/2002 6:06:22 PM PDT by thedilg
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To: Gil4
I agree. Of course they are not also properly socialized in the art of dope usage, booze, sexual promiscuity, condoms, homosexuality, teenage pregnancy, abortions, gangs, goths, bullying, etc.

The Dilg

37 posted on 04/27/2002 6:15:11 PM PDT by thedilg
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To: JohnHuang2
Bump
38 posted on 04/27/2002 6:31:15 PM PDT by Goldsters
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To: Tom Bombadil
The NEA has their head in the sand when it comes to home schooling.

No, they don't. They know that home-schooled kids are outscoring "their" kids on standardized tests. They know exactly what's going on. They are being threatened.

39 posted on 04/27/2002 6:57:23 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: madfly
Although home-schoolers make up less than 1 percent of the population, you find home-schoolers winning the national spelling and geography bees, as well as being Rhodes Scholars, doctors, politicians, presidents, founding fathers and much more.

Bump.

40 posted on 04/27/2002 8:13:07 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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