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1 posted on 03/16/2002 4:07:20 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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Others, like Michael Gonsalves of New York, disagreed: ``If you are fighting against a perceived injustice, is the proper recourse to go out and do the very same thing?''

What these wonderful folks have done is point out the truth! There never was any injustice in these mascot names!

No one has ever, before this, selected a mascot to denigrate the mascot! When these folks tried to select a mascot to denigrate it, they found out that the class of people identified with the mascot liked it! This is great real-life sitcom!

2 posted on 03/16/2002 4:17:41 AM PST by SubMareener
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``It's obvious some of the people are taking it the way it's not supposed to be taken,'' said team member Jeff VanIwarden.

Only someone steeped in the climate of race/gender politics that current schools foster wouldn't have seen this coming. Caucasians are supposed to be as thin-skinned and obsessive as these grievance-nursing groups, and it just stuns this guy that it's a hoot instead.

4 posted on 03/16/2002 4:27:29 AM PST by John Jorsett
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With all the publicity, the team plans on printing new T-shirts. VanIwarden said they will have a message condemning racial stereotypes to dissuade people from making light of the shirt.

does this mean they are going to print more of the "Classic" Fightin' Whities, or will this be a new and "Politically Corrected" version. Either way, I am sure these racial activists will be happy to take $$ for the shirts.

1500 orders x $20(shirt) = $30,000

5 posted on 03/16/2002 4:29:50 AM PST by rface
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LOL!

"Demonstrating absurdity by being absurd."


6 posted on 03/16/2002 4:32:13 AM PST by pocat
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Have you ever noticed this or is it just me: People are getting worked up about smaller and more trivial things every day.

Could you imagine, back in the pioneer days, someone getting upset and ready to take legal action because the name of something offended them?

Davie Crockett would be in big trouble with PETA. Custer would have been off the scale in political INcorrectness. The men defending the Alamo would have had to put down their weapons and look the other way while Santa Anna's men entered the country with their families and applied for welfare.

Political correctness is robbing us of our freedom very gradually so we won't notice it. It's like a block of cheese and they keep shaving off small slices of our freedom until it's all gone...one slice at a time and small enough to escape notice.

The liberals would like us to become a nation of door-mats and let people from other countries, including those who denounce us and openly express hatred toward us walk all over us. No pledge of allegance because it might offend one of them...the list goes on and on.

7 posted on 03/16/2002 4:32:40 AM PST by capt. norm
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"...Fightin' Reds.." "The students say the logo is offensive."

These students have been made really paranoid. They sound like losers that don't have anything better to do.

9 posted on 03/16/2002 4:34:47 AM PST by CWRWinger
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I've thought this was funny all along. Big deal. As if any white person is offended.

Whitie, cracker, honky BUMP!

11 posted on 03/16/2002 4:35:17 AM PST by SpookBrat
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``Some people online were saying that the mascot should be ... a fat guy with buckteeth kissing his sister,'' said Tom Crebbs of Oakland, Calif., who heard about the idea and started his own Web site selling spin-off shirts, hats and mugs.

Ah, the refreshing smell of Capitalism.

12 posted on 03/16/2002 4:35:48 AM PST by Wrigley
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Have you noticed that their website describes their team as composed of "Native Americans and non-Indians"? Shouldn't that be non-Native Americans? Unless they're talking about people who are not from India.
13 posted on 03/16/2002 4:36:35 AM PST by aruanan
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I wish I had one of those t-shirts to wear while participating the Confederate Battle Flag/Southern Heritage event today.
14 posted on 03/16/2002 4:41:07 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: republican; Angelique; rboatman; tame; Alamo-Girl; Zappo; backhoe; goseminoles; Balding_Eagle...
Here in Illinois, we have a university that is called (imagine this) the University of Illinois. Team nickname is the Fighting Illini. Every game sees a performance by Chief Illiniwek. His costume and his war paint are completely authentic. This tradition goes back many decades.

I also played college football at Illinois Valley Community College in Oglesby, Illinois (two-year record: 21-3, with two Midwest Bowl championships). The team nickname was the Apaches. You never saw so much war paint, heard so many war cries or saw as many Mohawk haircuts, except perhaps in a John Wayne movie.

Both of these traditions have been pursued with the greatest reverence and respect for Native American traditions. There is nothing the slightest bit denigrating about it. As an American of Swiss heritage, I would be greatly honored if a college named its teams the "Fighting Swiss."

This year, the Apaches play their final games. In the fall, they will be named something else. I know it was just a community college, but we had an outstanding team. We had a junior college All-American both years -- one of them could bench press 450 pounds and the other looked and played like a young Lawrence Taylor -- and we always sent several players as transfers to Division I schools, such as Iowa, Ohio State, Nebraska and Northwestern.

I am bummed out, dudes.

The pressure at the University of Illinois to change its team name has also been intense, but they are standing up to it much better. More power to Chief Illiniwek. May his tribe increase and find many buffalo.

15 posted on 03/16/2002 4:41:27 AM PST by Bryan
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"With all the publicity, the team plans on printing new T-shirts. VanIwarden said they will have a message condemning racial stereotypes to dissuade people from making light of the shirt."

I like the Fighting Whities T-shirt better.
The PC crowd is just mad that their promotion of racial hatred blew up in their faces for a change.

17 posted on 03/16/2002 4:44:57 AM PST by cake_crumb
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... ``The Fighting Whities.'' They printed up jerseys saying ``Every thang's going to be all white,'' with a caricature of a middle-aged white man ...
Is this supposed to offend me? to teach me a moral object lesson? All it does is make me laugh hysterically.
23 posted on 03/16/2002 5:07:16 AM PST by Asclepius
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Some radio DJ's in Denver are on a campaign to have the school change their mascot name to:

The Beavers!

It's getting funny. They want to see the new cheerleader uniforms.

27 posted on 03/16/2002 5:59:20 AM PST by gortklattu
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``Some people online were saying that the mascot should be ... a fat guy with buckteeth kissing his sister,'' said Tom Crebbs of Oakland, Calif."

But that's not a Whitie...that's a REDneck!

BWAAAAAAAAAAH!

32 posted on 03/16/2002 6:27:54 AM PST by rvoitier
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I kinda like "The Fighting Honkies"
33 posted on 03/16/2002 6:29:09 AM PST by sandmanbr
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Finally, my own team. I'm truly honored and want to thank my father, my mother, and all those who have stood by me to this point in my life.

(I'll take the Whities AND the points for a hundred.)

34 posted on 03/16/2002 6:29:14 AM PST by savedbygrace
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I heard a radio interview yesterday with someone representing "The University". I didn't get in at the beginning so I don't know the person's title or position. Every sentence this person uttered contained several "you know" statements. I think that "The University" should be more concerned with education than mascot colors.
36 posted on 03/16/2002 6:35:35 AM PST by FreePaul
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It's about time that Whites got a little recognition as possible mascots for sports teams. So far the Fighting Irish of Notre Dame is all I can recall.

The possibilities are limitless:

"The scape goats" (I know this one is already claimed by Funky Winkerbeam's team, but it fits)

"The whipping boys"

"The Bigots"

"The homophobes"

"The Sexists"

"The cross burners"

" The slavers"

"The good OL' boys" ("Good ol' girls")

" The Crackers"

" THe Honkies"

" The Red Necks"

" THe steadily employed"

" THe self sufficient"

" THe tax payers"

" The builders"

" The providers"

" The pacifists"

" The studiers"

" The doers"

" The apologists"

" The used"

" The pi$$ed on"

"The pi$$ed off"

" The lambs"

" The slaughtered"

" The providers"

"The walked on"

"The unrespected"

"The fed up"

"the mad as hell"

" THe ain't gonna take it no mores"

41 posted on 03/16/2002 7:00:12 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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My uncle Harry D.Timm Williams was the mascot for Stanford University for 21 years. He was called "Prince Lightfoot". They ousted him and changed the name to the Stanford Cardinals. At the time they said he was desecrating sacred Indian rituals etc (same old story) In fact he made his own costume and made up all of his own dancing. It had nothing to do with our tribe (Yuroks) or any other. At the time there were two Indian students and only a few blacks that pushed for this and got it passed. To this day the Alumni Association would like to change back to the "Indians" but the school will not have anything to do with it. I have his Indian Costume and it has been offered to Stanford for there Archives or Museum but they dont want it or anything to do with it. Like everything else these days they are trying to change History for political correctness.
50 posted on 03/16/2002 7:44:35 AM PST by fish hawk
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