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Here in Illinois, we have a university that is called (imagine this) the University of Illinois. Team nickname is the Fighting Illini. Every game sees a performance by Chief Illiniwek. His costume and his war paint are completely authentic. This tradition goes back many decades.

I also played college football at Illinois Valley Community College in Oglesby, Illinois (two-year record: 21-3, with two Midwest Bowl championships). The team nickname was the Apaches. You never saw so much war paint, heard so many war cries or saw as many Mohawk haircuts, except perhaps in a John Wayne movie.

Both of these traditions have been pursued with the greatest reverence and respect for Native American traditions. There is nothing the slightest bit denigrating about it. As an American of Swiss heritage, I would be greatly honored if a college named its teams the "Fighting Swiss."

This year, the Apaches play their final games. In the fall, they will be named something else. I know it was just a community college, but we had an outstanding team. We had a junior college All-American both years -- one of them could bench press 450 pounds and the other looked and played like a young Lawrence Taylor -- and we always sent several players as transfers to Division I schools, such as Iowa, Ohio State, Nebraska and Northwestern.

I am bummed out, dudes.

The pressure at the University of Illinois to change its team name has also been intense, but they are standing up to it much better. More power to Chief Illiniwek. May his tribe increase and find many buffalo.

15 posted on 03/16/2002 4:41:27 AM PST by Bryan
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To: Bryan
Oskee-wow-wow, dude.
21 posted on 03/16/2002 5:05:07 AM PST by Erasmus
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To: Bryan
Thanks for the heads up!
52 posted on 03/16/2002 8:06:06 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Bryan
I went to school at West Georgia College. (Braves)
I root for the current Major League Atlanta Baseball team. (Braves)
Before that I rooted for the Minor League Atlanta Baseball team.

Guess I ain't never gonna be Politically Correct.

55 posted on 03/16/2002 8:30:20 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: Bryan
I went to Grad school at U of I. Go Illini!
69 posted on 03/16/2002 9:34:56 AM PST by ironman
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To: Bryan
Good post #15, Bryan. Thanks.
78 posted on 03/16/2002 1:27:27 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Bryan
As an American of Swiss heritage, I would be greatly honored if a college named its teams the "Fighting Swiss."

Would you settle for the Green Bay Packers (Swiss)Cheeseheads?


127 posted on 03/18/2002 8:09:28 PM PST by Polybius
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