Hepatitis shots urged for newborns { DON'T}

AP ^ | January 7, 2002 | AP

[expose]

CHICAGO (AP)

[volchef]

As I said, I had my kids vaccinated and will have my third vaccinated against hepatitis, because I also believe it can be transmitted by casual contact in rare incidences. However, I do think that mothers and fathers should be given a serious list of pros and cons instead of just the "Because the CDC is telling you to, that's why" routine.

[concerned about politics]

While there's been no known increase in infants infected with hepatitis B, vaccinating them before they leave the hospital "just makes good sense,"

And it brings in money for the medical community.
Again, because the democrat base is full of whores, druggies, and gays, our children must face the chance of dangerous side effects, " for the good of the whole socialist community."
They don't want to discriminate against the low life styles. Mutate them all, and make it "fair."
Heck with this. Just say "no " to socialist medicine.

[krodriguesdc]

National Vaccine Information Center

Anna's Story

[IRtorqued]

P.R.O.V.E.

also do a search using "mad as a hatter"

[PrivateIdaho]

When our son was born a couple of years ago, our hospital also put heavy pressure on us for this vaccination. When I asked about risks they said there was a very slight chance of health problems after vaccination and deaths were extremely rare.

When I asked why the vaccine was necessary they said it was to protect the infant if the mother had Hepatitis B. The fact sheet they gave us said risk groups for Hep-B were injection drug users, homosexual men, sexually active heterosexuals, and infants/children of immigrants from disease-endemic areas. Since it is primarily a disease of junkies, gays, and promiscuous heterosexuals, to me, it was a no-brainer. Why expose the infant to anything above zero risk when there was absolutely no chance the mother would have it? They still pressed us but I refused to sign the consent form because there was no rational or logical reason to do so.

A few months later, our pediatrician admitted that the hospitals are under pressure from the CDC for 100% vaccination of newborns. He convinced us that it would be a good idea to have it done before the child was exposed to other children at daycare or school, but he agreed that it was an unnecceary risk for the vast majority of newborns.

[IRtorqued]

I guess your doc figures that alot of new borns these days are into I.V. drug use and sodomy. did you ask you doc about the kick backs they get from the vaccine maker for each dose they inject? schools also get kick backs from the government for each child they have enrolled that has their vaccines. for any help on any vaccine issues check this web site

[Pharmboy]

You can't get Hep B from travel to Mexico--unless you share needles with a junkie or have sex with a homosexual male. Hep B has very similar risk factors as does HIV.

[jojo123]

For info about autism-mercury litigation:

http://www.waters-kraus.com/autism_mercury.htm

Appears that Waters & Kraus is going to trial fairly soon.

I belive thimerosal (mercury-containing preservative) is to be eliminated from all vaccines this year.

[lelio]

You can't get Hep B from travel to Mexico--unless you share needles with a junkie or have sex with a homosexual male. Hep B has very similar risk factors as does HIV.
Well there goes my trip to Mexico, where is a Democrat supposed to sun these days? ;)
But seriously, why is the CDC pushing vaccination of something that there is almost no way that a mother can give to her kid unless she's in a high risk group? Maybe it is for some company kickback from the manufacturer.

[Askel5]

I still think run-of-mill Hepatitis in the gay community (and ensuing treatment for same) was a significant source for infection and a contributing reason their numbers rival those of hemophiliacs also infected with tainted blood derivatives.

I know very few AIDS-positive folks who don't also have Hep-C. Were they promiscuous sorts, I might be suspicious. They aren't ... not since the late-60's, anyway.

And those who've resisted longest the temptation to become lab rats at Charity are still alive, fwiw. All of those who clutched at AZT are long gone.

(What that portends for pregnant mothers in South Africa who are urged (or is it required?) to take AZT as a preventative measure "for their children" means, I hate to wonder.)

I suppose my observating over the years how many of my friends were used as willing human experimentation subjects -- much less the money your average pharma will blow at a medical convention -- has sort of soured me even further on those corporations whose primary profit is made in the realm of sexually transmitted disease and all things pertaining thereto ... including the roping in of EVERY infant for a preventative vaccine.

[aruanan]

You put {DON'T} in your headder, could you please explain??

A knee-jerk response.

[volchef]

Actually, 30% of Hepatitis B cases are from unknown origin. Monogamous, straight, non junkie people can get this disease. What's even stranger is that people who acquire the disease from an unknown way are more likely to develop the serious chronic form of Hepatitis. Very strange. They are looking for some other method of infection.

[CholeraJoe]

Most if not all of the "new" regimens of protease inhibitors for HIV infection also include AZT. Nursing mothers who take AZT cut their risk of transmitting HIV to the newborn by more than half.

AZT isn't perfect but it's not what kills people with HIV.

[DoughtyOne]

Certain agencies have recommened Hepatis-B to be given to all infants for at least the last four or five years. I believe the CDC was one of them.

I went round and round with my reps since the costs are so prohibitive. We were barely able to break even on maternity services because the services had been bid down to the point that they were almost loss leaders. To add in the fees for Hep-B would have pushed us over the edge.

Is is also interesting to note that some services are given gratus by the hospitals. The state gives some funding for indigents, but not as much as truly needed.

The premise was that children would get those shots when they got their others. The state may in fact have a service that provides these to indigent mothers, I'm just not aware of such programs.

I will say that many infants have been given the Hep-B series. I am not aware of a single bad reaction, but there may be figures out there that reveal otherwise.

Hepatis is a problem these days. Should the infant contract it, his parent would fee very bad that they did not take measures to prevent it. On the other hand, a bad reacion would make the parent feel bad too. It's a decisions all parents must make these days.

I had to make similar decisions when my kids needed DPT and other innoculations. We opted for them. We had no problems and our kids were spared some rough times for having done so.

Kids who attend school will sooner or later catch just about everything. Hep-B may or may not be a logical item to include with this statement. Others could tell you.

[aruanan]

My liberal sister who works in a neo-natal intensive care ward is starting to see a trend occuring with this vaccination and autism, the primary culprit looks to be the mercury based preservative.

Your liberal sister is not in a position to see such a trend. If you think for a few minutes, you'll see why.

[afz400]

How many hospital workers have hepatitis B? Why are they allowed to work in a hospital environment with a contageous disease? Perhaps communities need to take a hard look at exactly who is working in local hospitals.

[Lancey Howard]

Once again, the majority is required to do something that actually only applies to a very small minority. Remember, it's more politically correct to just require EVERYONE to take the shots than it would be to zero in on the high-risk mothers, most of whom are probably drug users.

Bingo.
This disgusting trend is most widely seen in the government schools.

[DoughtyOne]

If it weren't for one of those vaccines, and yes a few deaths, Polio would still be maiming and killing 100s of thousands of children around the world. I know there are adverse reacions, and those reactions in your own child can be devistating. The alternative is exposure to just about all children to just about all childhood diseases. Talk to just about any public healthcare nurse. They'll nearly always urge the full course of childhood innoculations.

[uncommonsense]

"The recommendation for hepatitis B shots was made out of concern that some infants of mothers mistakenly thought to be disease-free might be falling through the cracks, said Dr. Julia McMillan, a member of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) committee that helped create this year's list."

If the mother is one Dr's are concerned about, how does a vaccination help? It requires time and multiple shots for the baby's immune system to respond to the vaccination. If the mother is the carrier, she'll pass the infection during the birth process or shortly thereafter. A shot after the fact is of no value. In fact, the shot will initially weaken the immune system, especially that of a newborn, making it more susceptible to all kinds of disease, not less.

[Lancey Howard]

When the schools got really threatening, she silenced them by telling them it was against her religion.

"....the schools...."
It is amazing how the government imposes its health Nazism through its schools.