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Survey finds 10 partners before marriage 'normal'
Drudge ^ | 10th December 2001 | Ananova

Posted on 12/09/2001 9:59:41 PM PST by Don Myers

Survey finds 10 partners before marriage 'normal'

The majority of young people think it is normal for a person to have at least 10 sexual partners before marriage.

A survey has also found that three in 10 believe it is acceptable for a girl to lose her virginity before the age of 15.

Research carried out by Brook, the youth sex advisory service, says there is a "cultural change" in young people's attitudes towards sex.

Some 64% of men and 54% of women agreed that it was acceptable for a person to sleep with more than 10 partners before getting married.

But the survey, which questioned people aged 17 to 25, also showed that they wanted more information about sex and contraception.

Men admitted to getting most of their knowledge about contraception from TV and magazines, while women learned the most from magazines and their mothers.

Half of all the young women surveyed said they wished that teachers had supplied them with more information about preventing pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases.

Brook chief executive Jan Barlow said: "Young people have an increasing number of sexual partners and they are saying that's OK.

"But at the same time they don't have the information and access to services that they need.

"Young people must seek out advice and information in order to make their choices and to understand how to protect themselves both against pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases."


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To: Judith Anne
Re:#128

Thank you and blessings. It sounds like you have many. :-)

801 posted on 12/13/2001 4:30:45 AM PST by SusanUSA
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To: susangirl
Yep. And I am deeply grateful each and every day for all of them.
802 posted on 12/13/2001 4:42:14 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne
:-)

Bump!

803 posted on 12/13/2001 4:49:40 AM PST by SusanUSA
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To: John O
"John O.->"They CHOOSE not to date. Therefore they are virgins by choice"

You->What if they wanted to date? Would you LET them? It doesn't sound like it

What part of "THEY CHOOSE" do you find hard to understand?"


I understand that they choose not to date, but that is not my question. I'm asking you what would you do if they chose TO date. What would your reaction be? Would you let them?
804 posted on 12/13/2001 5:00:22 AM PST by Jadge
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To: Don Myers
"Sexual sin seems to be very important to God. For instance, adultery is the only grounds for divorce in the NT."

Hypothetically speaking here, (without intent to discount or insult your beliefs) what if you discovered that Christianity, and all religions for that matter, are no more valid than Greek mythology? What if God is just a creation of man intended to prevent him from worrying about death?

Would that change your views on pre-marital sex, or not?
805 posted on 12/13/2001 5:09:24 AM PST by Jadge
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To: Jadge
I understand that they choose not to date, but that is not my question. I'm asking you what would you do if they chose TO date. What would your reaction be? Would you let them?

Good. I wanted to be sure you understood so far.

So far I've been talking of the kids in the church youth group. I'll answer the rest of this about my own kids. (far too young to even consider dating. My daughter is 13 months and my son's not born yet)

What would I do if they chose to date? I'd lay down some serious rules and then let them. I'd explain why dating was a waste of their time and would get in the way of their relationship with God and then I'd let them make their choice. (as long as they were 16 years of age or above that is)

I would also have first right of refusal for anyone they were taking out or going out with. If I don't approve of the person, they don't date them. (My house my rules). Of course they would honor and respect me enough to really listen because I will raise them right.

GSA(P)

806 posted on 12/13/2001 5:26:44 AM PST by John O
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To: Jadge
Addendum:

They already choose not to date. They were not forced or compelled into not dating. They chose not to date.

GSA(P)

807 posted on 12/13/2001 5:28:28 AM PST by John O
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To: John O
We made the no-dating rule until age 16, and we made it stick without much fuss at all...Right of first refusal wasn't any problem, either...no threats or punishment were needed...

Who are these jaded kids that would fuss about such a thing? I believe that parents should protect girls and boys from sexual pressure at too early an age, protect their innocence and potential for joy--lay down the rules in a loving home, and they'll be accepted...

Sometimes I get the idea that any parent who places reasonable restrictions or limits on a child is viewed as some kind of monster by the liberal leftists who advance a sexually exploitive and anti-life agenda...that's a distorted view.

There've been comments that lead me to think that leftists imagine beefy, liquored-up dads standing by the door with shotguns, threatening terrified little girls who only want to explore their personhood.

RIDICULOUS! Most young girls (under 16) would rather be protected, treated like the little princesses they are. I have never met an exception. I think I can safely say that any young girl who aspires to be sexually experienced at an early age has been neglected, emotionally, familialy, and spiritually.

808 posted on 12/13/2001 5:40:05 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Don Myers
Some 64% of men and 54% of women agreed that it was acceptable for a person to sleep with more than 10 partners before getting married.

But the survey, which questioned people aged 17 to 25, also showed that they wanted more information about sex and contraception.


The headline is misleading. The survey didn't find 10 partners 'normal', it found that a percentage of 17-25 year olds thought it 'normal'. These are two distinctly different things.
809 posted on 12/13/2001 5:45:55 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Skywalk
In fairness to women, I dealt with one that had her own set of issue despite being a virgin, and we never had anything resembling sex. I don't want to portray a monolithic female attitude. However, it grows tiresome dealing with people who display little intellect, little emotional depth, empathy(except for furry animals), and a sense of the meaning of relationships--all things women are supposed to have in abundance. That is truly a myth, and I speak for all my male friends who are, as a rule, superior to the women they've dated.

Wow, that really blows me away. Doesn't that just re-inforce the notion that the movement of women toward casual sexuality has been bad for the (once) fairer sex? As they've striven to become more like men, they've thrown away that which made them truly valuable to men, those feminine attributes you list above as lacking. That might be OK for hardcore Steinem-ists, but your average girl/woman, wanting to one day get married, might find it easier going if she had those feminine wiles to deploy.

Such a tricky discussion. I've wanted to cut a path between the Wedding-night Virginals (even bad sex is good sex if you love someone) and the Casual Sex Practitioners (gotta hone those skills!) and make the case that sex in a stable relationship, even unmarried, is the better alternative to both.

Time for me to exit this quagmire. Thanks for the dialogue.

810 posted on 12/13/2001 6:31:12 AM PST by Gumption County
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To: John O
"I would also have first right of refusal for anyone they were taking out or going out with. If I don't approve of the person, they don't date them. (My house my rules). Of course they would honor and respect me enough to really listen because I will raise them right."

I hope we can speak again in 16 years, and you can tell me how it went. I wonder if you'll keep your approach or adopt a new one.

Just to be clear, I do not have a problem with pre-marital sex, but I think 16 is way too young. 18 is often too young. There is a lot of emotional baggage that surrounds the act for both parties, and it can be difficult for an immature mind to handle. Confusion reigns supreme, and bad decisions are made as a result. Mature adults who understand the decision they are making, and the possible consequences, are the ones I support.
811 posted on 12/13/2001 7:31:34 AM PST by Jadge
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To: Don Myers
Sexual sin seems to be very important to God. For instance, adultery is the only grounds for divorce in the NT.

Right-o. Have you noticed that discussion of sexual sin also seems to get folks fairly up-in-arms? I think it comes down to an issue of human pride.
812 posted on 12/13/2001 8:36:39 AM PST by k2blader
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To: Jadge
Re: your post #805

Hypothetically speaking here, (without intent to discount or insult your beliefs) what if you discovered that Christianity specifically is more valid than other "religions." What if God is not just a creation of man intended to prevent him from worrying about death?
813 posted on 12/13/2001 8:40:58 AM PST by k2blader
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To: Jadge
"What if God is just a creation of man intended to prevent him from worrying about death? "

What if this life is nothing but the dream of a sleeping entity somewhere in the cosmos who is about to awaken and extinguish this life for all of us?

814 posted on 12/13/2001 8:41:57 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Judith Anne
I agree. Little ones must be protected (especially from liberal leftists) and as daddy it's my job to do it.

We currently live in the most conservative town in our county and are looking to buy a new house. Have already told the realtor (who attends our church) that I wont even look at houses in the other big town in the county because that would be moving behind enemy lines. Good enough for me and the wife but my children wont be exposed to leftists until they are able to easily defeat them in conversation. (I figure by the time they're twelve they should be able to do it easily)

GSA(P)

815 posted on 12/13/2001 8:42:43 AM PST by John O
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To: aruanan
"with more than 10 partners before getting married. "

The survey found that a high percentage of young people thought that more than ten partners before marriage was just fine. The discussion is about sexual mores revealed in the survey.

816 posted on 12/13/2001 8:44:08 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: k2blader
"I think it comes down to an issue of human pride."

Yes, man wants to do what man wants to do. They want to relegate God's laws to the back burner so that they can do what makes them feel good.

817 posted on 12/13/2001 8:45:16 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Jadge
I'd also like to compare notes in 16 years. I don't believe we'll get the chance though.

I expect the Christians will be out of here well before then. (but that's a whole nother 1000 post discussion)

GSA(P)

818 posted on 12/13/2001 8:46:13 AM PST by John O
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To: Don Myers
"What if this life is nothing but the dream of a sleeping entity somewhere in the cosmos who is about to awaken and extinguish this life for all of us?

Then I want to have as much sex as I can!

:)
819 posted on 12/13/2001 9:51:17 AM PST by Jadge
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To: k2blader
"What if God is not just a creation of man intended to prevent him from worrying about death?

Then I am probably screwed! :)
820 posted on 12/13/2001 9:53:20 AM PST by Jadge
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