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Survey finds 10 partners before marriage 'normal'
Drudge ^ | 10th December 2001 | Ananova

Posted on 12/09/2001 9:59:41 PM PST by Don Myers

Survey finds 10 partners before marriage 'normal'

The majority of young people think it is normal for a person to have at least 10 sexual partners before marriage.

A survey has also found that three in 10 believe it is acceptable for a girl to lose her virginity before the age of 15.

Research carried out by Brook, the youth sex advisory service, says there is a "cultural change" in young people's attitudes towards sex.

Some 64% of men and 54% of women agreed that it was acceptable for a person to sleep with more than 10 partners before getting married.

But the survey, which questioned people aged 17 to 25, also showed that they wanted more information about sex and contraception.

Men admitted to getting most of their knowledge about contraception from TV and magazines, while women learned the most from magazines and their mothers.

Half of all the young women surveyed said they wished that teachers had supplied them with more information about preventing pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases.

Brook chief executive Jan Barlow said: "Young people have an increasing number of sexual partners and they are saying that's OK.

"But at the same time they don't have the information and access to services that they need.

"Young people must seek out advice and information in order to make their choices and to understand how to protect themselves both against pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases."


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To: Don Myers
That ring shows commitment, at least. Of course, if a person is the sort who doesn't honor marriage vows, it really doesn't matter.

Which brings up another point: Marriage doesn't mean diddly squat in the big scheme of things. How loving or faithful a man/woman will be in marriage is in all likelihood identical to the way they were before marriage. Getting married doesn't change much for people, particularly if they've already had a long relationship prior to marriage.

I've known a number of people who have been in relationships for decades with kids and all who never were married (I have an uncle like that in fact, whose daughter is currently in college), but who had loving monogamous relationships; I guess most of them never saw the point, even though I know some of them were devout Christians. (Perhaps they figured they were married in the eyes of God as a matter of fact than ceremony.) I also know lots of people who are properly married and routinely cheat on each other and/or have dysfunctional relationships. Having a ring on the finger doesn't provide protection from anything.

Of course, then you have the statistics on married couples I remember reading many years ago (in the 80s?) that said that something like 85% of men and 65% of women cheated on their spouse at least once during marriage (according to a survey). Those are pretty poor odds, much worse than the divorce rate even. Yet based on my personal experience, these numbers do not surprise me at all.

221 posted on 12/10/2001 4:47:51 PM PST by tortoise
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To: Dr. Frank
Which is precisely why I believe that a "free love" attitude harms women more than it does men

It is touching to see you so concerned about woman's rights.

222 posted on 12/10/2001 4:49:08 PM PST by pcl
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To: Dr. Frank
"Bottom line is, you're telling me that human nature has a "double standard", and you're complaining about it. Sorry, but there's nothing I can do about human nature. You're just going to have to deal with it."

You stink.

223 posted on 12/10/2001 4:50:55 PM PST by marajade
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To: pcl
I liked your "spiritually pure" comment better. The sarcasm was more incisive, subtle... ;)
224 posted on 12/10/2001 4:52:51 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: pcl
See my post #223; a woman's point of view.
225 posted on 12/10/2001 4:53:21 PM PST by marajade
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To: marajade
[ Sorry, but there's nothing I can do about human nature. You're just going to have to deal with it. ] You stink.

I stink because I cannot alter human nature?

Ohhhhh-kay.

226 posted on 12/10/2001 4:54:07 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dr. Frank
How many sexually experienced men want inexperienced women for wives so that those women will never know how much they suck in bed? How many of them want them so they won't have to bother with extended foreplay, oral sex, or actually giving pleasure to their mates?
227 posted on 12/10/2001 4:54:21 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: Don Myers
Interesting posts all over this thread, and thanks to everyone who has shared...

I do want to say that after 31 years of marriage, and raising kids who are each married, having grandchildren, watching society change from the 60s...all that...

There can be a very good way--I am still in love with my husband, as well as loving him, I feel loved and taken care of, we seem to have found the knack of exclusiveness--nobody else has any place in our circle of two...you have to WANT that, to have it...if it isn't important to you, if forsaking all others isn't the first thing...do you have a marriage?

We've had our troubles--but they were always OUR troubles--you don't comparison shop after you've made a purchase, or you're doomed to frustration...not to say that marriage is a "purchase" -- it isn't, but just to make the point...

Maybe I'm undersexed or something...I welcome my darling, but the thought of anyone else...yuck! He knows my joy and honors and protects it with his own...

And where are the belly laughs, in this discussion of sexuality, marriage, love? I just feel that without the FUN, why would anyone bother? How can you give the kids a good example of how to be married together if you don't get up to a little horseplay with each other once in a while...?

Sorry about the nag, nag, nag...living well with one person is almost a forgotten art, but one worth working on...the only authority I can quote is my own, here, and my life, which is blessed beyond the measure of every dream I ever had, in spite of the common thorns we all have...

I can't talk about marriage without sounding awkward, hope I have honored my husband with this post...;-D

228 posted on 12/10/2001 4:54:26 PM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Bella_Bru
I dunno, I give up. How many?
229 posted on 12/10/2001 4:54:55 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dr. Frank
Bottom line is, you're telling me that human nature has a "double standard", and you're complaining about it. Sorry, but there's nothing I can do about human nature. You're just going to have to deal with it.

You don't stink; you're as sweet smelling as the truth. Biology trumps ideology no matter how much resistance is applied. I figured that out at 12; with the help of my mother and the Sisters that taught me.

230 posted on 12/10/2001 4:55:40 PM PST by Aedammair
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To: Dr. Frank
"I stink because I cannot alter human nature?"

Yes. I think men can mentally rise above attitudes such as yours. My husband was able to; why can't you?

231 posted on 12/10/2001 4:56:12 PM PST by marajade
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To: Dr. Frank
No, I am just asking. If you don't know what feels good or bad, you'll never know that your husband isn't doing much for you. Kind of makes your guys' job easier, huh?
232 posted on 12/10/2001 4:56:18 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: pcl
"What is not right is when someone forces their own sense of proper behavior on someone else."

And that is being done how? If you want to argue that the left has been projecting their own sense of right and wrong onto the children, you would be correct.

233 posted on 12/10/2001 4:56:19 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: marajade
Well, I agree that men should have the same purity. I was 19 when I got married, and I was a virgin.
234 posted on 12/10/2001 4:57:15 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: Aedammair
And you shame women by accepting attitudes such as his.
235 posted on 12/10/2001 4:57:26 PM PST by marajade
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To: Don Myers
Finally, someone who agrees. The gift of purity not only is the responsibility of the woman but the man as well and that gift should be mutually given to each other.
236 posted on 12/10/2001 4:58:33 PM PST by marajade
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To: Aedammair
"So I'm content to remain single, because it's much better than settling for a hollow man."

I agree. That is how many men view the majority of women today. Many men and women of today have an empty shell.

237 posted on 12/10/2001 4:59:26 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: Don Myers
Don, you and I do not agree on much. But it is nice to hear you saying that men should have the same purity instead of the "boys will be boys" attitude. At least I know you don't clap your "stud" son on the back while calling your daughter a slut.
238 posted on 12/10/2001 4:59:52 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: marajade
["I stink because I cannot alter human nature?"] Yes. I think men can mentally rise above attitudes

Sorry, but I thought the idea of "mentally rising above" human nature died with the New Soviet Man. I mean: give me a break.

I'm not here to defend the nature of the average male, by any means. I'm just trying to explain that people who walk around expecting others to "rise above" human nature, "mentally" or otherwise, are bound to be disappointed.

....attitudes such as yours. My husband was able to; why can't you?

When did this get personal? What makes you think I was necessarily describing myself?

I was talking about men in general. Was that not clear? I made no post on this thread revealing anything about my own attitude toward women. What makes you think I did?

In fact, what makes you think I'm even a guy, in the first place?

239 posted on 12/10/2001 5:00:35 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Bella_Bru
If you don't know what feels good or bad, you'll never know that your husband isn't doing much for you. Kind of makes your guys' job easier, huh?

That could be the explanation, for all I know. In any event, human nature is human nature.

240 posted on 12/10/2001 5:01:33 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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