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Democrats in California are claiming that they want to reduce shoplifting, but they are against doing anything that would increase the prison population. In other words, Democrats are on the side of the shoplifters.
1 posted on 06/15/2024 3:02:11 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Empty shelves stop a lot of shoplifting.


2 posted on 06/15/2024 3:03:04 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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”proposal would disproportionately criminalize low-income people … rather than target ringleaders”

Water board the mules until they cough up some names. Easy peasy.

3 posted on 06/15/2024 3:16:55 AM PDT by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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California is becoming a dystopian nightmare more and more every day. California is dysfunctional.

Don’t put criminals in jail? How has that been successful in all of world history?

The people demand action to stop crime but Leftist politicians are fighting law-abiding people to allow criminals to continue to destroy everyday life in the state?


4 posted on 06/15/2024 3:18:07 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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I’m pretty sure that proposed reparations package will fix all this.


5 posted on 06/15/2024 3:20:22 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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Everyday, the Democrat coalition more and more becomes the party of takers. Less people pay income taxes now than do pay income taxes.

Just a matter of time before they vote to take all of a taxpayers money.


6 posted on 06/15/2024 3:21:55 AM PDT by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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Just move out of Californicate. Problem solved and you will live a lot better.


9 posted on 06/15/2024 3:38:34 AM PDT by wetgundog
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They worry the ballot measure’s proposal would disproportionately criminalize low-income people and those with substance use issues rather than target ringleaders who hire large groups of people to steal goods for them to resell online.

Excuses - being poor does not give them a right to steal. Being on illegal drugs does not give them a right to steal.

How do you “target ringleaders” if you don’t arrest the thief?

It is way past time that all Democrats be voted out of office.

At this point in time it would be cheaper to build more jails and prisons. Theft cost everyone both by raising prices and by businesses closing and leaving the state. I


10 posted on 06/15/2024 3:49:56 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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Democrats are just worried that all their voters will end up in Jail.


11 posted on 06/15/2024 3:56:38 AM PDT by rellic (rough)
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Why do they call them democratic?


12 posted on 06/15/2024 4:01:41 AM PDT by exnavy
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LOWER COST CRIMINAL JUSTICE

Accused persons would be given a court date, and for non-violent crimes the alternative choice of avoiding trial by serving time in a penalty time room. The arresting officer would set the number of penalty time hours based on state guidelines. The magistrate may change the number of hours upon the request of the accused. To encourage serving time, the hours served in the first week would receive a 100% bonus, going down 20% by week. The penalty time room system would allow accused persons to maintain employment and would allow governments to avoid paying for defense counsel and jail room & board.

Non-violent crimes such as shoplifting might be punished by strapping substantial and visually obvious weights on convicted persons.

Criminal trials would normally start in the afternoon to allow most defendants to affordably hire defense counsel for merely one day.

CREDIT/DEBIT CARD BAIL

Persons accused only of non-violent crimes might be able to be bonded out by credit/debit card bail. The amounts would be set by the magistrate and might range from $100 to court costs plus alleged damage/theft amounts.


13 posted on 06/15/2024 4:09:26 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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“Democratic leaders plan to void most measures in their own legislative package, citing potential conflicts.”

So the Democrats claim they have “solutions” but refused to act for 10 years (Prop. 47 - 2014)?

[That’s not to say the Democrats’ “solutions” are solutions.]


14 posted on 06/15/2024 4:12:43 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Pretty soon then only thing illegal will be stopping someone from committing an approved crime.


17 posted on 06/15/2024 4:35:19 AM PDT by midwest_hiker
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The law could include a clause......

“upon exiting the store with stolen goods, the thief can be shot on site”


20 posted on 06/15/2024 4:41:31 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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I fail to understand the “mass incarceration” and “overcrowded prisons”. I have seen the footage. There is not nearly enough incarceration. Either that or incarceration isn’t a deterrent. What would be a deterrent?


24 posted on 06/15/2024 5:31:40 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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It’s really hard to reduce crime if the people responsible for prosecuting and punishing the guilty don’t want to. Why it’s almost like they identify more with criminals than they do with the lawful. Economic desolation will be the result.


25 posted on 06/15/2024 5:36:54 AM PDT by Rlsau1
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Instead of hanging the bad guys from lampposts, maybe a stronger message would be to hang some politicians from lampposts with a message about "let criminals go free, and harassed law-abiding citizens".

This notion of street justice against the bad guys doesn't work, it has not worked, and it's unlikely to work in the future.

28 posted on 06/15/2024 6:13:15 AM PDT by Bernard (“God's cruelest punishment is to let you reap what you sow.”)
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And Gavin Nobrain wants to make the US just like he’s made California aka CaliFUBAR ... riiiiiiight


29 posted on 06/15/2024 6:19:27 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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If voters approve the tough-on-crime ballot initiative.

Get a lottery ticket you odds are much higher of winning.

They made California what it is today and proud of it s**t hole #1.


32 posted on 06/15/2024 7:03:28 AM PDT by Vaduz
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The result when the criminals elect the government.


34 posted on 06/15/2024 8:03:09 AM PDT by Lockbar (Even when you think you finally have enough ammo, you still really don't have enough. )
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That is typical CaCaLand. Protect the criminals, which is why they protect illegal aliens.

How about cutting off hands? Old Testament, but it would probably work and no one ends up in prison.

Alternatively, do what a Florida sheriff did when he told home owners to shoot home invaders — “save the state some $$”. He also offered state sponsored training so they could shoot straighter.
Issue firearms with frangible bullets to all store security and tell them to fire away.


35 posted on 06/15/2024 8:08:34 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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