Obama tells them the lies that they want to hear -
Obama speaks like his father the Devil (John 8:44)
Posted on 05/16/2024 8:54:34 PM PDT by VAFreedom
The Biden administration on Thursday submitted a proposal seeking to begin the formal process of reclassifying marijuana as a less dangerous drug.
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“Rulemaking, eh?
“Let’s just desolve the Legislative and Judiciary branches”
The Controlled Substances Act grants this authority to the DoJ.
“There was indeed less alcohol use during prohibition.”
No figure I’ve seen puts it at more than a 40% reduction. And the remaining 60+% enriched violent criminals.
“And dry counties have less DUIs, alcohol related crime, etc. That is a fact.”
Here’s another fact: correlation is not causation. Dry counties differ from wet ones in many ways other than dryness.
“And while there can be such a thing as light drinking, there is no such thing as “light cocaining” or the like. There is no such thing as a safe amount of crack smoking.”
There is such a thing as light cannabis use; I’ve done it and seen it done.
“There was indeed less alcohol use during prohibition.”
A bit of overswing to prohibition maybe but think about how bad society was to lead to this.
‘An occasional glass of wine to help settle the stomach’ is not an endorsement of alcohol.
Other scriptures warn explicitly against drinking too much nor spending your time in a drunken state.
Do you know any biblical warnings against mj? Does it make black men rape white women?
Too much drink, yes. But the High Priest could imbibe, as long as he wasn’t on temple duty. If you drink alcohol, you enter a state of uncleanliness for about the length of time it takes digest and excrete the alcohol.
Leviticus 10:8-11
8 Then the Lord spoke to Aaron, saying: 9 “Do not drink wine or intoxicating drink, you, nor your sons with you, when you go into the tabernacle of meeting, lest you die. It shall be a statute forever throughout your generations, 10 that you may distinguish between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean, 11 and that you may teach the children of Israel all the statutes which the Lord has spoken to them by the hand of Moses.”
If the High Priest can drink, everybody can drink. The stricture is that you time your last drink with when you plan to go to church, the night before.
Having said that, it is not mandatory to drink and you have to use wisdom as to whether it’s an appropriate activity for you because you may be prone to alcoholism, but it’s a banned Biblical activity.
Some people might bring up Samson, but that is because he was a lifelong Nazarene, which is normally a year long service. You can’t drink as a Nazarene, but when you are done your yearlong service as one, you can have a drink.
And they turned a harmless plant, err strike that a medicinally beneficial plant and outlawed it.
God says in Genesis the seed bearing plants are for our medicine, yet Rockefeller took us off of plant-based meds for petrol. Also when snake oil became popularized as high blood pressure medicine!
Very true!!
“There was a very good reason for the temperance movement.”
There was - and Temperance made most of its gains before Prohibition, through social pressure.
Yes all with his mind set agree and as useful.
There was - and Temperance made most of its gains before Prohibition, through social pressure.
But what is to be learned is it takes a generation to change things, there is no magic bullet which everyone wants.
another law which many conservatives want, WILL NOT FIX THINGS in and of itself.
Social pressure is each of us individually with a short sword. not the other guy or even Trump.
The 91st Congress passed the “Controlled Substances Act of 1970.” It includes the following language:
Governing Bodies
While Congress initially decided which substances to place under each schedule, the legislation gave power to 2 federal agencies, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), to determine the substances added or removed from the classification schedules. The process to remove, add, or change the schedule of a controlled substance can be proposed by the DEA, the Department of HHS, or by petition from an interested party
Maybe it's realistic in your mind, but in practice it isn't. You sound like one of those politically-appointed bureaucrats I worked for, who came up with what they thought were "brilliant" ideas on paper, but those ideas turned to $hit when applied, because most of them had never worked a day in the job they were applying their "brilliant" ideas to.
If I were a nanny-stater, I’d be trying to tell people what they can and cannot put into their bodies.
I simply want people to make their own decisions when it comes to their recreational activities.
Here is the Founding Fathers and their mentality towards drugs.
https://mountainside.com/blog/alcohol/the-founding-fathers-on-drugs-and-alcohol/
That's not what's being discussed here. You think there's a fool-proof system that educating people about drugs will make things safer. It won't, and will be a waste of money and time, just like Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty was supposed to eliminate poverty. You want to go touchy-feely with the government educating people about the use of drugs. When has that approach ever been successful? Any government-run program they come up with, whether it's Federal of State-controlled is doomed to fail. They always do, and the taxpayer ends up paying the price in the end.
Is that the country the Founding Fathers founded, a safe one?
They put their lives on the line and were willing to hang together if they lost, so you’d have a safe country to live in?
I thought they founded a country that a man could be free, as he defines freedom? If he defines freedom as the right to inject potions into his arm, that’s his right.
Were the Founding Fathers wrong in what they were trying to do? They should have focused on safety and not freedom?
I’m not using the government to stop people from exercising their rights as they see fit. The most we owe them is honest information and accountability if they use their freedom to hurt people.
But a free country is not just your definition of freedom, but somebody else’s as well.
Marijuana is not addictive like alcohol. Pot is mood enhancing. Alcohol is mood altering. This is a big difference.
When our Founding Fathers put their lives on the line to found this Republic, it was to keep our country free from the oppressing rule and laws of a foreign monarchy. They didn't foresee a time when automobiles would become the common method of transportation in this country, or that arrogant and selfish people would drink themselves to oblivion, get behind the wheel of a car, killing themselves and others.They also knew nothing about the uncontrolled influx of lethal drugs through our borders by criminal cartels from another country that would be delivering drugs, the majority of which are produced in China, or that drugs would be classified for recreational use, or that in 2022, 32.6% of stupid people in this country would die from drug overdose.
Don't you think those 32.6% were "educated" enough, and knew that doing drugs could harm them? Yet that many didn't give a damn and O.D.'d because they couldn't give two $hits about being safe. Nobody O.D.'s accidentally. It isn't an accident when you deliberately shoot up as much as you want, knowing full well, that it could kill you. These horse's asses can have as much freedom to drink and drive, or O.D. whenever they want...as long as they don't take an innocent soul with them. The Founding Father's certainly didn't want asshats like that to have the freedom to destroy other people's lives.
So, it is your belief that the Founding Fathers set up a country that was only free as you define freedom. Everybody else, not aligned with you, were not allowed their freedom?
It doesn’t matter how a person conducts themselves, in exercising their freedom. As I understand the Founding Fathers, if somebody uses their freedom and comes to a bad end, that is their problem. The Founding Fathers understood the world far better than you or I.
Nobody says you have to do drug and we should inform people of the risks. If they choose to do drugs, that is their right because the Constitution does not say no. If the Founding Fathers were concerned about safety, they would not have given us an uninfringed Second Amendment, where you can carry nukes if you can bear them.
Yes, I know what China is doing, but that’s up to the Feds to do their jobs. Let the 32.6% die of their drug overdose, if they’ve been informed of the risks. The Founding Fathers would have let them die.
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