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Biden administration begins formal rulemaking process to downgrade marijuana to less dangerous drug
fox ^ | 5/16/2024 | Greg Wehner

Posted on 05/16/2024 8:54:34 PM PDT by VAFreedom

The Biden administration on Thursday submitted a proposal seeking to begin the formal process of reclassifying marijuana as a less dangerous drug.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biden; bidenadmin; druggedsociety; idiots; marijuana; pot; stoners; zombies
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To: VAFreedom

Smoking marijuana makes people vote ( and think) Liberal. We are inviting even further
generations of pot soaked retards.


21 posted on 05/16/2024 9:50:46 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Jonty30; mass55th

There was indeed less alcohol use during prohibition. And dry counties have less DUIs, alcohol related crime, etc. That is a fact.

And while there can be such a thing as light drinking, there is no such thing as “light cocaining” or the like. There is no such thing as a safe amount of crack smoking.


22 posted on 05/16/2024 9:51:36 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: mass55th

I never said it ensured safety. I said, to best ensure safety, education is best. You can spend $100 billion dollars in ensuring or you can spend $2 billion to educate people on how best to use the product and leave them to their own devices.

That’s a principle. Spend a little to minimize it or an impossible amount of money to stop it.


23 posted on 05/16/2024 9:52:08 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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To: Republican Wildcat

If you want a police state, just say so.

Drinking is a Biblical permissible activity. Even the High Priest could imbibe, as long as he wasn’t on temple duty for the time it takes to process and excrete the alcohol.


24 posted on 05/16/2024 9:53:24 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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To: Jonty30

Well if they only harmed themselves and it didn’t effect everyone else, that would be one thing. But since they don’t only harm themselves and do indeed harm everyone else - your argument obviously does not make any sense.


25 posted on 05/16/2024 9:54:30 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Jonty30

I am making factually accurate statements. You are making factually false statements. You don’t want to confront this so you say things like “If you want a police state, just say so.” That’s not how an honest person has a discussion.


26 posted on 05/16/2024 9:55:58 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: VAFreedom

You can rely on Joe Biden to make a decision that is wrong for America. There he goes again! Today’s Pot is many times more potent than what was typically smoked 20 or 40 years ago. This is how you create more of the rootless, unemployable, Zombified Youth


27 posted on 05/16/2024 9:56:40 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

28 posted on 05/16/2024 9:58:48 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

You punish them if they harm others. As you have a free society, you are going to have people who make stupid decisions and harm others. We can’t have a safe society and a free society at the same time.

The most we can do is teach people. Teach them how much alcohol they can drink before they are at risk or much marijuana they can smoke before they are at risk.

Let the people govern themselves. Send them jail to life if they do something terrible while under the influence. I am not arguing against strict punishments for those who do harm under the influence.

A conservative demanding a strong government is just as bad as a liberal who argues for a strong governemnt. They are both being bad.

Unfortunately, having a free society is to have risk.


29 posted on 05/16/2024 9:59:20 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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To: Republican Wildcat

What false statements have I made?

Either people are free, which means being free to drink alcohol by the gallon are toke marijuana by the bushel or they are not free. You can’t have a free society as you define it, but restricted for other people.

The Founding Fathers didn’t intend to have a free society for some people and not others. The Chinese government has the type of free society that you want. It is free for those in power, but not for those out of power.

You want a free society that suits you, but not for others.


30 posted on 05/16/2024 10:01:50 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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To: Jonty30
"In principle, treat it like alcohol and regulate it to ensure safety."

Those are your own words. You never said to best ensure safety. You can't ensure anyone's safety when you allow people to have access to substances that alter people's behavior. And you can't babysit people 24/7 to ensure safety. Alcohol isn't really regulated anyway, other than a law related to age and usage, and people violate that law every day.

"...or you can spend $2 billion to educate people on how best to use the product and leave them to their own devices.

Why waste all that money to educate people about the use of a drug, when after they've been "educated," they will do what they want with that crap anyway.

31 posted on 05/16/2024 10:16:15 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Ok, I said ensure. I should have said to best ensure safety.
That means, teach people to not harm and then let them live free.

That is the best we can do. If somebody does something under the influence, punish that.

You can’t prohibit alcohol and you can’t prohibit drugs. You can only regulate to “BEST” ensure minimal harm.

To do anything else is to admit the Founding Fathers were wrong and inert the country they founded.

Spending $2 billion to educate is better than spending $100 billion trying to enforce prohibition. The country was founded on self-governing. Self governing means that people are free to do what they want, even if what they want to do is deemed as crap by you.


32 posted on 05/16/2024 10:20:53 PM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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To: Republican Wildcat
"There was indeed less alcohol use during prohibition. And dry counties have less DUIs, alcohol related crime, etc. That is a fact."

Look at the gin craze that occurred in Britain. Gin was introduced as a replacement for French brandy. The British government restricted the import of brandy, and encouraged the production of gin. They also reduced taxes on distilleries which encouraged its production even more. And no licenses were required which meant that distillers could have smaller workshops than brewers to produce the stuff, so there was more available from different sources, which made it cheaper than other spirits. Things went downhill from there. Gin drinking got out of hand, and people's lives were destroyed. Parliament passed five major Acts, in 1729, 1736, 1743, 1747 and 1751, designed to control the consumption of gin. It wasn't until the Act of 1751 that gin consumption diminished, but it also went down because the cost of grain to produce it had increased due to bad harvests.

33 posted on 05/16/2024 10:48:10 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Jonty30
"That is the best we can do. If somebody does something under the influence, punish that."

LOL! They won't even put, or keep violent offenders behind bars, you think they'll jail anyone long-term for doing something under the influence?

34 posted on 05/16/2024 10:49:46 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: VAFreedom

I don’t think the marijuana cares how dangerous someone thinks it is.

Legislation will not change the facts.

Honestly, where to these *journalists* learn to write?????


35 posted on 05/16/2024 11:02:23 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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Rats trolling for more votes... #ing Rats


36 posted on 05/16/2024 11:19:19 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist! )
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To: hinckley buzzard

Mayo clinic: “There are some clear risks associated with the use of cannabis by young people.
Early cannabis use negatively impacts the mental abilities and processes related to knowledge, including memory, judgment, evaluation, reasoning, computation, problem-solving and decision-making — and diminishes long-term function while increasing the risk of addiction. The risk of any substance abuse is especially high for young people who start early — age 14 or younger.
Cannabis has less potential for addiction and long-term consequences than other substances, including nicotine and alcohol. The number of people who use cannabis and develop a problem is still high. Up to 25% of cannabis users become daily users, and 10% of users will become dependent. In 2011, nearly 4.2 million people age 12 and older had a cannabis abuse or addiction problem.”
John Wayne: “Life is tough. It’s even tougher if you’re stupid.”
Me: If you’ve uhhhh like ever talked to some bussin young broccoliheads, for sure, you totally walk away thinking, “Scrot! Stoned, lazy and stupid is no way to go through life.” OTOH, you know, like hey, whatever.
Jack Webb on one of my shoulders and Nick Gillespie on the other, simply can’t agree. But if Joe’s behind it, how can it be a good idea?


37 posted on 05/16/2024 11:37:09 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Gene Eric

The Democratic Party knows that sin sells very well to humans.

That’s why they promote homosexuality.

That’s why they promote abortion on demand; promiscuity.

That’s why they lie all the time.

Just like their father the Devil (John 8:44).

That’s why their father the Devil, the god of this world,
(2nd Corinthians 4:3-4)
gives them riches and fame (both are fleeting)


38 posted on 05/16/2024 11:42:20 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Republican Wildcat

These numbing and dumbing social experiments can’t all be the result of ‘accidents’. These are deliberate procedures meant to destroy or smother out most resistance.


39 posted on 05/16/2024 11:49:05 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: mass55th

I am only saying what should be done, because it is realistic.

You cannot expect prohibition, so the next best option is education. Be honest about how much somebody drinks or tokes. If they commit crimes under the influence, their being high or drunk is not a mitigating factor under the law.


40 posted on 05/17/2024 1:17:01 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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