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Shocking video shows man shooting cop dead and wounding another while being tased after refusing to get out of his car during traffic stop
Daily Mail ^ | February 19, 2024 | Rachel Bowman

Posted on 02/19/2024 10:43:08 AM PST by artichokegrower

Shocking body camera footage shows the disturbing moment a Tennessee Sheriff's Deputy was shot and killed by a man who refused to get out of his car during a traffic stop.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; deputy; police; tennessee
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To: pierrem15

Assuming arguendo that what you say is true, that does not give the driver the right to shoot police. I can’t even fathom that defense.


21 posted on 02/19/2024 11:16:23 AM PST by KittyKares
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To: bigbob
No. Cops are supposed to respect rights. These cops were on a fishing expedition looking for an excuse to arrest the guy for DUI and search the car.

When the immediately ask you to exit the vehicle and you ask why and they tell you they "smell weed" they know they're full of crap and you know they're full of crap and they're simply looking to make an arrest. This guy decided he'd had enough.

Some commenters here are phrasing this as a "dindu" problem. It isn't: I've seen the same "cash extraction" policing and police brutality in areas that are 99% white. It's all about the Benjamins and padding the stats. This is particularly bad where most people are poor and cannot afford legal defense.

22 posted on 02/19/2024 11:22:16 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: bigbob

There are numerous ways to handle the situation other than forcible removal from the front seat.


23 posted on 02/19/2024 11:22:20 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce<P>Couple of minuet dancers )
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To: KittyKares

Depends on the state: in some states you can resist an unlawful order. Considering the fact they tased him three times, basically torturing him to get him out of the car, he was relatively restrained.


24 posted on 02/19/2024 11:25:54 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

He was driving on the wrong side of the road. So if had a head on with a vehicle killing th family inside that would be too bad for them


25 posted on 02/19/2024 11:25:58 AM PST by artichokegrower
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To: pierrem15
If there were weed in the car, would he have asked?

Maybe he knew they didn’t have a dog, and was just stalling.

The first words out of my mouth in this situation are probably “I’m armed.”

26 posted on 02/19/2024 11:27:57 AM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Drew68

Low intelligence combined with a high propensity for panic, hysteria and violence.
one imagines that if they refuse to get out of the car, the police will just let them go on their way, with no further repercussions ?


27 posted on 02/19/2024 11:27:58 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: artichokegrower
Hypothetical. I've crossed over a little from fiddling with my radio many times. But I'm careful not to do that if there's traffic. We don't know the full circumstances.

Your argument is used to justify disarming everyone. After all, if it saves a child, any amount of rights violation is Ok, right? Public safety uber alles!

28 posted on 02/19/2024 11:29:50 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15; All

“No. Cops are supposed to respect rights. These cops were on a fishing expedition looking for an excuse to arrest the guy for DUI and search the car.”


A traffic stop for driving erratically including in the oncoming lane is not “a fishing expedition”.

Police need to be held accountable for misconduct, but arresting a doped up driver who is into oncoming traffic is not “police misconduct”.

The police here don’t appear to be wearing body armour. I don’t understand that.

Canadian officers have worn body armour for 30+ years, in a country with a lot fewer handguns.


29 posted on 02/19/2024 11:34:17 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: gundog

The cops were supposed to ask for license, registration and proof of insurance first. When they immediately ask you step out of the vehicle that’s good indicator they’re fishing for a reason to arrest you.


30 posted on 02/19/2024 11:34:42 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

[...When they immediately ask you step out of the vehicle that’s good indicator they’re fishing for a reason to arrest you.]

Or they want you out of the car so you can’t grab a concealed weapon and shoot them dead.


31 posted on 02/19/2024 11:38:27 AM PST by Farmerbob
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To: Reverend Wright
What's the evidence of impairment? He spoke clearly when they addressed him. There are a 1000 reasons for why a car might temporarily cross the center line: distraction, as the driver said. Or a bump in the road. Or a car with mechanical issues that pulls to one side. Etc., etc. Only one is "impairment."

A police officer is supposed to investigate, not presume, which is what they did and you are doing.

32 posted on 02/19/2024 11:38:59 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

The video is edited. How do you know the cops didn’t ask for info, first?


33 posted on 02/19/2024 11:42:07 AM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Farmerbob
Or they want you out of the car so you can’t grab a concealed weapon and shoot them dead.

They guy didn't threaten them or try to drive off or anything like that until they tasered him. They guy didn't do anything except refuse to get out of the car and they didn't even ask him for ID.

34 posted on 02/19/2024 11:44:43 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15
Yeah, the police are obviously lying. This guy is the picture of a model citizen and couldn't possibly have been smoking weed in his car. Oh, you also might want to check your legal advice. Police don't need "probable cause" to order you out of your vehicle.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/434/106/
35 posted on 02/19/2024 11:45:02 AM PST by armydoc
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To: pierrem15

Jesus, really?


36 posted on 02/19/2024 11:49:34 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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To: artichokegrower

I have watched a lot of first and second amendment audits, at times the police can be seen doing a number of unconstitutional things to people. Unfortunately, the number of such videos on youtube and elsewhere has had some impact on the way people view police since at times the way the police treat folks is absurd.

The Supreme Court has ruled that during a traffic stop you must exit the vehicle; some people don’t know that. No matter what it is always best to do what the police instruct on a traffic stop and work the beef out in court.

IMO the smell of pot thing is absurd because some states have legalized the stuff but stops like this can be money makers for the locality doing the stop. Fines, vehicle storage, etc. Another reason this happens is asset forfeiture that is another big money maker (billions) and a thing that has been abused by law enforcement at times.

I’m not justifying what this shooter did, I’m only wondering if some of this “war on drugs” crap is worth even one LEO’s life.


37 posted on 02/19/2024 11:50:33 AM PST by isthisnickcool (1218 - NEVER FORGET!)
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To: armydoc
Depends on the state. It's also dubious on constitutional grounds. One legitimate reason is "officer safety." But with compliance before being asked to step out it's hard to say how "officer safety."

As far as his appearance, my barber has tats like that guy and is also huge. He also has a wife and two kids and wouldn't hurt a fly.

And was this even a criminal offense? In most places a traffic ticket a civil offense. So one cop dead, another wounded, and guy with murder charges over a civil offense.

Now that's professional policing! /s

38 posted on 02/19/2024 11:52:00 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

All said from the safety of your home typing on your computer

My feelings and any support I can offer goes to the families of the three law enforcement officers gunned down last week.


39 posted on 02/19/2024 11:55:20 AM PST by artichokegrower
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To: pierrem15
Lots of excellent YouTube videos on these situations that people should watch, as too many police forces have denigrated to shake down artists. I believe most are still basically good but because of Democrat governments making a mockery of law they're forced into an "us versus them" mindset - effectively the Blue Gang in the thug hierarchy.

There was a situation a few years back where state troopers and local police were about to draw down on each other over who had the "right" to confiscate a trucker's money. Ridiculous.

Last I heard he's STILL trying to get it back.

40 posted on 02/19/2024 11:57:36 AM PST by MikelTackNailer
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