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The West’s humiliating electric car climbdown has begun
Yahoo News ^ | 2/2/24 | Matthew Lynn

Posted on 02/03/2024 11:05:04 AM PST by CFW

France’s President Macron had a plan to make millions of electric vehicles a year. Chancellor Scholz planned to put 15 million on Germany’s roads by 2030. President Biden trumped the lot with a $174bn (£138bn) plan to make the US the world leader. Even Boris Johnson Get info without leaving the page.

– remember him – had a £1bn plan to beef up our charging network.

Rewind only a couple of years, and almost every president or prime minister was making electric vehicles the cornerstone of an industrial strategy. And yet, this week we have learned that Renault is abandoning plans to separately list its electric vehicle (EV) and software business, while Volvo is winding down its Polestar electric sports car subsidiary.

In reality, amid an onslaught of Chinese competition, and falling sales, the West’s electric vehicle dream is quickly unravelling – and we need to relearn all the lessons in why grand, state-led industrial strategies never work.

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There is nothing wrong with EVs themselves. They are often great as run-arounds for dense urban environments, and as long as the raw materials are sourced correctly, and the chargers are not powered by coal-burning generators, they are probably a little better for the environment than the petrol version.

If people want them, then that’s great. The trouble with the industry right now is that demand is falling because the vehicles cost far more than anyone expected, and what market there is will be captured by Chinese manufacturers such as BYD that can make vehicles far more cheaply than anyone in the West can. The result? A lot of government money will be wasted.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: automotive; business; deadbatteries; ecars; economy; electric; ev; evs; failure; fires
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To: CFW

the purpose of the battery car push is to destroy private transportation

now everyone on the bus!


41 posted on 02/03/2024 12:21:57 PM PST by joshua c
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To: gibsonguy

Thanks. I like that one, too.


42 posted on 02/03/2024 12:25:47 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: alloysteel

Glad to help.


43 posted on 02/03/2024 12:28:34 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: CFW

Ethiopia may as well have banned inter-planetary space travel for its citizens.


44 posted on 02/03/2024 12:30:50 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

No. 2 is a bit of a double-dip because you did say they have 30% less range in cold weather. However, the point is, if you are trying to make it to a certain location, you might have to sacrifice heating the inside of the car to get there ... something no ICE driver has to worry about.


45 posted on 02/03/2024 12:38:22 PM PST by JohnEBoy (I voted for Trump to be my president, not my pastor.)
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To: devere
“There is nothing wrong with EVs themselves.”

Consider the source of the story... YAHOO "NEWS?".. need I say more?

46 posted on 02/03/2024 12:38:32 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: joshua c

“the purpose of the battery car push is to destroy private transportation

now everyone on the bus!”


Yep. Too many people still think it is due to incompetence and a lack of awareness as to the limits of EV transportation. The fact is that they do not plan on the plebs traveling much at all. We will live in our 15 minute cities and bike, walk, or take the EV bus to pre-determined locations. THEY will be the only ones with private transportation and access to the lands outside the 15 minute cities. Or at least, that is their plan. It’s a bold one.

Let’s see how it works out for them.


47 posted on 02/03/2024 12:41:33 PM PST by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

* Expect a huge increase in lung cancer cases and other lung diseases worldwide due to an increase of tire dust in the air. The tire dust will start another climate change scenario.


48 posted on 02/03/2024 12:51:18 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: CFW

“…and as long as the raw materials are sourced correctly, and the chargers are not powered by coal-burning generators,…”

Yeah. Good luck with that.


49 posted on 02/03/2024 12:53:19 PM PST by TalBlack (I We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: devere

EVs are upsized golf carts that give a usable imitation of a real car, over short distances, and in warmer climates.

Nothing wrong with having one.

If I lived in Florida and only needed to go to Publix or to pick up my hot date at the Villages, I might consider it.

But I live in New Hampshire.


50 posted on 02/03/2024 12:54:59 PM PST by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: CFW

“...grand, state-led industrial strategies never work...”

Hey, it’s a Great Leap Forward [in EVs].

What could go wrong?


51 posted on 02/03/2024 12:56:03 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: CFW

It can work. If we invest a few trillion we can move LA closer to NY, requiring fewer charges.


52 posted on 02/03/2024 12:57:36 PM PST by lurk (u)
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To: CFW; All
Thank you for referencing that article CFW.

"Government motto: "Subsidize failure with tax-payer dollars!""


Facilitated by the long arm of the ill-conceived 16th Amendment (16A; direct taxes), junk science remedies for government / industrial-manufactured crises are basically nothing more than politically correct excuses to funnel unconstitutional tax dollars to desperate Democrats and RINOs to help keep them in power imo.

Repealing 16A, the 17th Amendment (17A) too (popular voting for federal senators), would not only put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, but would also effectively “secede” ALL the states from unconstitutionally big federal government imo.

Consider that repealing 16A alone would probably cause crook politicians who have been following the tsunami of unconstitutional tax dollars to DC to lose interest in staying in DC regardless of 17A.

53 posted on 02/03/2024 1:01:33 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: JohnEBoy

Yeah, with so many problems, it’s tough to avoid all double-counting. Maybe I’ll move the heater problem to the 30% less range problem.


54 posted on 02/03/2024 1:09:08 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: 353FMG

“The tire dust will start another climate change scenario.”

LOL...file under “Damned if you do...”


55 posted on 02/03/2024 1:09:45 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Karl Spooner

LOL! The idiot stood right there while all that toxic white smoke billowed all around him. I wonder how much of that stuff he breathed in?


56 posted on 02/03/2024 1:29:04 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "democracy" like trying to throw your opponent in jail.)
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To: Bernard

The Krofts had the best dope


57 posted on 02/03/2024 1:46:01 PM PST by al baby (I know sarcasm )
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To: Bernard

The Krofts had the best dope


58 posted on 02/03/2024 1:48:19 PM PST by al baby (I know sarcasm )
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To: CFW
When his bike battery started smoking, he stuck his head into the smoke and fumes and blew on it as if he was blowing out a candle

For some reason, when I read your post I had a vision of the photo where Al Gore is bending over sticking his face into the barrel of his M-16. Some things never change.

59 posted on 02/03/2024 2:09:12 PM PST by Bernard (We honor veterans who fought to keep this country from turning into what it now is. --Argus Hamilton)
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To: Karl Spooner

That e-bike video is all kinds of entertaining. Unfortunately, a number of apartment fires have been caused by similar bikes - the owners store and charge them inside and - whoosh.


60 posted on 02/03/2024 2:12:30 PM PST by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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