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To: CFW

the purpose of the battery car push is to destroy private transportation

now everyone on the bus!


41 posted on 02/03/2024 12:21:57 PM PST by joshua c
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To: joshua c

“the purpose of the battery car push is to destroy private transportation

now everyone on the bus!”


Yep. Too many people still think it is due to incompetence and a lack of awareness as to the limits of EV transportation. The fact is that they do not plan on the plebs traveling much at all. We will live in our 15 minute cities and bike, walk, or take the EV bus to pre-determined locations. THEY will be the only ones with private transportation and access to the lands outside the 15 minute cities. Or at least, that is their plan. It’s a bold one.

Let’s see how it works out for them.


47 posted on 02/03/2024 12:41:33 PM PST by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: joshua c

“the purpose of the battery car push is to destroy private transportation

now everyone on the bus!”

Seems a bit dramatic...I have a long commute across a dense urban metropolis. Over 100 miles a day round trip starting in the exurban areas ending in the urban core midcities. There is no more ideal car than a Model 3 Tesla FSD for that commute check my older posts the math works solidly in it’s favor by every metric (capex price per mile,fuel cost per mile, tire life,opex & maintenance) when compared to my current already opened luxury vehicle that is used for said commute. The balance tips even more when the charging is done at work as part of my total compensation package. That’s $3600 per year in fuel costs back in my pocket. Having hand off driving in grid lock traffic is icing on the cake.

That said I rented on a number of occasions model 3 and model S my experiences with then range from gridlock traffic in DFW and Houston to trips between those cities at 85mph speeds on the active cruise controls. Tesla has blanketed Texas interstates and cities with superchargers I never need more than a 15 stop to get to the next charger or destination. Houston to DFW is a single stop at the 3/4 way point then direct to the destination I chose hotels with L2 charger and reserved spots or my garage has two L2 ports already on the walls. I wouldn’t use a Model 3 as a city to city car it will be third vehicle in the stable and purely commuting but it is capable of going to any Texas city I need to be in. Austin to DFW is a no stop trip the 3 or S has the range to go directly with a charge at the destination point. Houston is a single stop trip, San Antonio is a stop in New Braunfels while eating world class German food. Midland..shudders is a stop in San Angelo. New Orleans is a stop in Shreveport for Cajun lunch then Barton Rouge then 75 miles to NOLA from there you can get to Biloxi on the same charge. I have made all those trips in rental Teslas during my travels while consulting unlimited miles and bill the client for the rental car and the charging. My point is it’s a bit dramatic to say teslas are going to force people on to the bus they work great within their supercharger network. The model 3 RWD LR used with 30000miles are in the $25K range so hardly a rich boys toy. I see EV as a great commuter car or second car in a stable of cars and trucks each has it purpose.

A point should also be made the Model 3 RWD uses LFP cells they do not thermal runaway and don’t burst into flames tesla uses the same cells that BYD uses in their blade packs which you can drive a steel spike through the blade pack and it won’t even burn it vents gas at under 400F look up the blade pack spike tests if you are curious. LFP also have twice the cycle life of NMC with 100%DOD and 100SOC capabilities NMC are 20/80 the trade off is LFP are less dense so a Model S with NMC will go 440mi and a Model 3 LFP will go 325mi as a commuter car that’s three times the daily round trip range so irrelevant even a 50% loss of pack range would still cover a 100 mile per day commute with a 50% reserve range.


91 posted on 02/04/2024 12:28:09 PM PST by GenXPolymath
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