Posted on 09/18/2023 8:42:25 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
There is a theoretical, magic tipping point for adoption of electric vehicles. Once somewhere between 5 and 10 percent of new car sales are all-electric, some researchers say, huge numbers of drivers will follow. They predict that electric car sales will then soar — to 25 percent, 50 percent and eventually to close to 80 percent of new sales.
Early adopters who love shiny new technologies will be replaced by mainstream consumers just looking for a good deal.
Last year, the United States finally passed that elusive mark — 5 percent of all new cars sold in the fourth quarter were fully electric. And earlier this year, all-electric vehicles made up about 7 percent of new car sales.
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1 million cars and 50,000 sold are electric 5% still means 950,000 gas cars are sold. But it sounds like a lot of electric when it is not.
How many electric cars sold today will be on the road in say 5 years?
What will the cost of electricity be? How many brownouts / blackouts due to increase of electric vehicles? What will the cost of an electric vehicle be? What will the insurance rates be?
With no charger, I assume they have one at work.
tellingly, a tech guy on radio in Australia yesterday mentioned that Tesla has stopp making right-hand drive cars, which is what we use in Australia (and in UK).
hmmmm!
If electric vehicles are so popular then why are the car makers losing BILLIONS?
The price drops by Tesla and the subsidies are making them more competitive, at least in urban/suburban areas.
These people believed in 100th monkey, if you remember that.
>> In a related story, gas in San Diego went up $0.40/gallon over the weekend. It was $5.29 on Friday. This afternoon it’s $5.69.
That’s artificial. The ratshit climatista filth have taken America down from being #1 in energy production, a SELF-SUFFICIENT EXPORTER of fossil fuel under President Trump, into a third-world country begging the rest of world for low priced oil to import.
That artificial high oil price has NOTHING to do with voluntary early adoption of problematic EVs.
So what IS your point in quoting Xao Beidan-era gas prices? To pretend that EVs have “arrived”?
>> I hate these people. The herd leads the way right over a cliff.
Me too. I especially hate the lecturing by smug supposedly conservative bastards who will NEVER admit that the ONLY reason EVs are competitive is because of government subsidies — in other words money stolen from you and me by a corrupt federal government is paying to artificially inflate EV sales!
Who cares what Norway does.
That’s a good impression of the claptrap the EV fanbois around here push.
No.
I’m a mechanical engineer. I drive a 57 Bel Air and a 67 Camaro. Paid for, easily repaired, will last another 100 years.
Is there a place for EVs? You bet, maybe 25% of the market in 15 years. They are fine niche cars.
When, most likely not if, Toyota comes on line with solid state batteries (as well as other manufactures) then I see this as reality. 700 mile range 10-15 min charge times. Game over.
Biden will lead us to safety and prosperity, obviously.
Besides his great success in Afghanistan, he’s made us energy dependent, made the trade deficit with PRC worse, started a war with Russia, has an out of control border, turned our currency into monopoly money, and alienated the Saudis.
I mean, how can you not see his awesomeness?
When, most likely not if, Toyota comes on line with solid state batteries (as well as other manufactures) then I see this as reality. 700 mile range 10-15 min charge times. Game over.And if you close your eyes really tight, and wish really hard, and Joe Biden is President again to hand out poor taxpayer money to wealthy EV buyers it can all come true.
None of the basic problems have been solved.
The “magic tipping point” is government mandates, tax rebates, subsidies, and purchases by government for their own fleets of vehicles. The “tipping point” is selling folks a terd by relentlessly advertising with ideas of zero emissions, green, sustainable, and other nonsense.
The basic problems of the EV has been and remains the battery.
1. A batteries power density sucks: lots of weight with little energy and lots of volume with little energy.
2. Batteries have a very finite cycle life and are expensive. You are building disposable cars.
3. Batteries take time to charge. Go for a drive across the country and you might end up waiting long times.
4. Batteries have issues in temperature extremes both hot and cold.
5. Batteries are not green, regenerative, sustainable, clean and it is questionable if all of this environmental push is even rooted in reality. Batteries use rare earth or heavy metals, are energy intense and dirty to manufacture, and they lose about 15-20% of the power when being charged (they resist) taking away much of that “efficiency” argument. That doesn’t even take into consideration where many of the materials in a battery come from and how slave, child, and unsafe labor conditions, or environmentally disastrous these minerals/elements are mined for.
Actually, the govt subsidies reduce demand for EV’s by artificially inflating prices (much like subsidies inflate prices in other industries such as college tuition and healthcare). If you want to point to government interference boosting EV sales, look at things the Dims do to make the price of gas go up.
Because Norway is a good answer that you won’t “Always be charging”
Average temperatures in Norway are cold, yet they are buying more electric cars.
Now if you don’t want an electric car, good for you, stick with ICE.
I have one of each and live in a semi-rural area and both have their purposes. If I lived in an urban environment then the electric would be my only choice. If I lived in a rural, then the ICE would be my only choice.
Good reminder about govt subsidies. Needs repeating and often.
Absolutely correct. You’ve gotten into the details of the battery part of my comments, and done it very well.
You could do a similar thing for the generation part and the grid part.
As I keep saying, it will not end well and will be a complete disaster for the USA if this policy is allowed to proceed. There is no way you can change the primary means of transport for 50% of the US in a 10-12 year period. It is a complete pipe dream.
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