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Why there may be no return to 'normal' for the U.S. used vehicle market
CNBC ^ | 3/25/23 | Michael Wayland

Posted on 03/26/2023 8:25:40 AM PDT by CFW

All new vehicles become used cars and trucks once they're sold.

It's an obvious statement, but one that needs to be laid out to explain the root cause for ongoing inventory and pricing issues in the U.S. used vehicle market, which has been a barometer for the country's inflation levels.

During the onset of the coronavirus pandemic in early 2020, automakers shuttered factories for weeks to stop the spread of Covid-19. It was an unprecedented action that eventually led to additional supply chain problems, such as an ongoing semiconductor chip shortage, causing factories to cease production again for weeks, if not months, at a time in recent years.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: automobiles; automotive; biden; economy; inflation
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To: Rural_Michigan

How much grease do you figure you can get from a restaurant?
And how many other people do you think will have the same idea about biodiesel
I worked in a fast food joint that changed it friar once a week and maybe got two buckets of used griese out of it.


41 posted on 03/26/2023 10:39:33 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjamin Franklin.)
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To: CFW

The used car market will be boosted by repossessed vehicles. The economic downturn has increased repos as out of work people can no longer afford their car notes.

CC


42 posted on 03/26/2023 10:49:17 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Owen

Parts for my 25 to 35 year old Japanese vehicles are getting easier to find, if anything. Not from dealers or official channels, but from the huge SE Asian market where variations of the vehicles are still made and parts are still made (mostly in Thailand, I think, but not exclusively. These are NOT Chinese parts, except for some from Taiwan). I have not had any problems with the quality of the parts. The customers over there want them to work and they usually do.


43 posted on 03/26/2023 11:04:16 AM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: allendale

I don’t thing this has anything to do with EVs, which are flailing.

Report the other day how they’re being totaled for minor damage because of the batteries and cost to repair. Pretty soon they won’t be insured.

Anyway, the lady who runs GM said that they’ll never mass produce cars, again, like they have in the past. Too much money being made keeping inventory low.

I guess she’s following orders from her Chinese masters.

https://www.motortrend.com/features/inside-deal-sell-gm-chinas-saic-13985/

General Motors’ Chinese partner, Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation (SAIC) will take a controlling stake in GM by purchasing the equity sold to the U.S. and Canadian governments during the bailout.

The Chinese don’t have to wage war with us, just bankrupt us.


44 posted on 03/26/2023 11:04:26 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: NorthMountain; Susquehanna Patriot
A bit of poking around reveals that Tesla cars, at least, don't HAVE a transmission

that was one of the selling points for EVs ... no moving parts, so no repair costs for motor, transmission, cooling system, gas pump, etc... electric motors just get swapped out


45 posted on 03/26/2023 11:10:27 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: G Larry

Watch for demon rat ‘subsidies’ to the auto unions next.


46 posted on 03/26/2023 11:17:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: DaxtonBrown

At that dollar figure you’re talking about doing every last bit of the work yourself right down to the sand prep and paint. If you got the skills, more power to you. My 63 Impala pretty much needs a frame off restoration; a rotisserie job. It rolls, and it runs, but it really needs to be gone all the way through end to end, and $12,000 won’t touch that.


47 posted on 03/26/2023 11:39:10 AM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: CFW

“Cox Automotive doesn’t expect the total number of used sales to return to pre-pandemic levels until at least 2026.”

Hmmm, just as the EV Mandates start to kick-in...


48 posted on 03/26/2023 11:54:29 AM PDT by BobL
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To: DaxtonBrown

I know, I’m not comparing your cars to Cuban ones. that’s the difference between classic cars in cubs and the USA. Here they are beloved and cared for by people who love them for the history, the nostalgia, the purs mojo of them and are willing and able to get the best for them. There they are all you can get so you do your best to keep them moving.


49 posted on 03/26/2023 12:06:54 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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To: HKMk23

“At that dollar figure you’re talking about doing every last bit of the work yourself right down to the sand prep and paint.”

I’ve already done most of the work. Just doing upgrades like disc brakes, a posi for the Camaro. I’ve been planning this a long time. Now I get the benefits.

Have fun with the Impala!


50 posted on 03/26/2023 12:20:22 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Wow. Luckily I am in the high desert and we don’t have rust issues. Geesh. The used cars 10 years old are more than I paid for my first couple houses.

good luck and God Bless

OP


51 posted on 03/26/2023 12:21:21 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: CFW

Why wouldn’t this concept work for all other consumer goods? Cut back on the production of houses / computers / TVs / Soft Drinks / telephones / exercise equipment / baseball bats. Drive the price WAY UP and get rich.

Because someone else will crank up production and grab a larger market share.


52 posted on 03/26/2023 12:33:29 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Dr. Sivana

My vehicle is a 1994 Toyota 4Runner that I bought used in 2010 for around $2300-and it even has a sunroof. I drive a 4x4-can be either a pickup or an SUV-because of the unpaved steep roads out here where I live and work-I also sometimes tow a tiny utility trailer loaded with tools and materials. My vehicle before this one was a 1983 4x4 Chevy Blazer which I sold to a relative who needed that big V8 to tow his new work trailer-The gas bill for it was hitting me hard anyway...

About a year ago, I had the timing belt on the 4Runner, all hoses, thermostat, rear seal and a few small things replaced-a neighbor 2 miles up the road owns a mechanic shop-it is right beside his barn-I paid a bit over $800.00, and it runs great now.

Two months ago, I had to buy new tires-4 Kumo 31 X 1050 X 15 all terrains cost me nearly $800.00-that mechanic got them, put them on, etc-that was the best price either of us could find-makes no sense, when a major engine repair is the same price-I now need a replacement motor for one of the power windows, but that is at least $125.00, so it will have to wait...

There is no way I would have an EV even if I had the money for it-the distances out here between places you need to go would have me stranded in no time without a charge-unless the battery malfunctioned and started a forest fire first-I don’t even want a newer model vehicle-GPS, etc adds to the price and creeps me out anyway...


53 posted on 03/26/2023 12:49:09 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: DaxtonBrown

So far, so good.
Is in better shape than when I got it.
It’s got a 350 crate motor with a mystery cam in it running Vortec heads underneath a 750cfm Holley 4160 that I’ve named to dial in pretty close.
Needs new rubber just about everywhere throughout the body and suspension.
Needs paint.

Basically, I need to take it all apart.
Strip and powder coat the frame.
Strip, repair and refinish the body.
...

You know the drill.


54 posted on 03/26/2023 12:56:30 PM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: j.frank.dobie

The 2010 E350’s are priced very well for the quality of the ride. Hmmmm.....


55 posted on 03/26/2023 1:16:22 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (LIVE FREE OR DIE)
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To: CFW

Cas for clunkers,...

The government took in used cars and POURED ACID INTO THE CARBURETOR so it could never ne used again

They took the ‘broken window’ theory of economics as a tutorial instead of the dire warning that it is.


56 posted on 03/26/2023 3:55:29 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: HKMk23

I do know the drill. I’m in Vegas, so I’ve not suffered degradation lately. But I had to patch the quarter panels and I just up and replaced all the front end sheet metal.

I’m too old to do rotisserie, that’s for the next owner.

327, aluminum heads, Howards roller cam, truram stainless exhaust manifolds, 700r4 tranny. Just need tires and I can daily drive. Should be about 390 horsies.


57 posted on 03/26/2023 4:32:28 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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To: canuck_conservative

Apparently I missed all those great selling points! I could not get my mind off the very high price for new EVs (even w/ givernment subsidies) that had limited driving range, and eventually could cost a fortune when the batteries ultimately die.


58 posted on 03/26/2023 5:28:04 PM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: MayflowerMadam

Just like tearing down monuments


59 posted on 03/26/2023 5:32:07 PM PDT by al baby (Yes he did he said how come i wasnt invited )
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To: HKMk23

I know a guy that does frame off restorations ... a rotisserie job it is ... it will cost about 100k but will be ready for Barrett Jackson when he’s done.


60 posted on 03/26/2023 5:39:23 PM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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