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Russian forces resort to welding war relics onto ‘tankenstein’ vehicles
The Telegraph ^ | March 6, 2023 | Joe Barnes

Posted on 03/08/2023 3:22:33 AM PST by Timber Rattler

Russia is welding ageing naval turrets onto old armoured vehicles to make crude tanks as Vladimir Putin’s forces face worsening arms shortages.

The crudely engineered vehicles are being deployed in a likely attempt to shoot down Ukrainian drones as the armed forces grapple with crippling shortages of fighting machines and ammunition.

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New footage from an undisclosed location appears to show a 25mm 2M-3 twin-barrelled naval anti-aircraft turret fitted to a Soviet-era MT-LB amphibious fighting vehicle to form a new hybrid weapon.

The amalgamation, which was constructed with parts manufactured as early as 1945, could be seen being transported by rail, potentially to Ukraine.

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Its 25mm guns were likely procured from a naval patrol boat, an area where Russia has a rare surplus, while its tracks could date back to the 1950s.

Military experts said Russia is likely being forced to improvise from dwindling stockpiles to backfill for destroyed or lost hardware in Ukraine.

Moscow likely turned to a naval turret because its navy has been far less depleted than its battle-stricken land forces, according to Justin Crump, of Sibylline, an intelligence and geopolitical risk firm.

“I suspect it was improvised from naval turrets as they had access to them and the relevant ammunition,” he said.

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To: jacknhoo

Forty year old Soviet garbage from Albania is what we are giving Ukraine?

If we gave them anything useful (jets, helicopters, tanks) the sort of things to fight a 20th century war much less a 21st century one Ukraine would have beaten the Russians by now.

For some reason (Uranium One payoffs) it seems Biden refuses to give any real help to Ukraine.


21 posted on 03/08/2023 4:50:13 AM PST by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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To: marktwain

Lol true
I guess the difference we are bombarded by people saying Russian losses are fake news Ukrainians are losing 50-1, Russian military, economy and manufacturing are all doing splendid….
Hey after 6 months they have almost taken bakmut and successfully denazified many Ukrainian er ah Russian cities with their humanitarian rockets and missiles…


22 posted on 03/08/2023 4:58:57 AM PST by blitz128
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To: Renfrew

“For some reason (Uranium One payoffs) it seems Biden refuses to give any real help to Ukraine.”

_____________________________

“If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.”

When asked how, the president says, “I promise you, we will be able do that.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS4O8rGRLf8

And:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?517774-1/president-biden-german-chancellor-scholz-hold-joint-news-conference

It’s an act of war against both Russia and Germany. It also violated neutrality in the active WWIII in the Ukraine area and now Russia has every right to retaliate...to fight their opponent.


23 posted on 03/08/2023 5:04:04 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Renfrew
They were very lucky to have a mild winter.

Meanwhile and going forward, how is the German economy doing?


24 posted on 03/08/2023 5:10:08 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain

Well no.

The Ukrainians are deploying lots of captured Russian tanks and armor. It is very possible that Ukraine has more captured Russian tanks than are being supplied by various NATO nations.

It is reported that Russia is now sending T 62 tanks that date from the 60’s into the battle. Russia is out of the good modern tanks.

There are reports of some new tanks being deployed but they fail mechanically. Having been hastily manufactured and lacking some parts no longer available, they just don’t work very well.


25 posted on 03/08/2023 5:11:07 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: jacknhoo

TinyURL: https://tinyurl.com/app


26 posted on 03/08/2023 5:18:13 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Timber Rattler
First in first out. They are getting more use out of it than giving away at scrap prices or storing forever. Look at some of the junk that got dumped in Viet Nam.
27 posted on 03/08/2023 5:23:00 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well those that did not make it back.)
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To: Travis McGee
as of 8th March, the Russian (at one point thought the 2nd most powerful military in the world) has not yet captured Bakhmut despite trying for the past 7 months


28 posted on 03/08/2023 5:28:48 AM PST by Cronos
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To: KobraKai

NATO isn’t fighting here.

It is Russia who is fighting (and losing to) the Ukrainians.]

NATO hasn’t even joined the fight


29 posted on 03/08/2023 5:32:35 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Renfrew

“If we gave them anything useful (jets, helicopters, tanks) the sort of things to fight a 20th century war much less a 21st century one Ukraine would have beaten the Russians by now.”

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We gave our helicopters to the Taliban.

Tanks delivered with many more promised soon:
8 Leopard 2A4s - Canada
38 T-72 tanks - Czech Republic
16 refurbished T-72M1 and T-55 - Czech Republic
11 T-72 Avenger Tanks - Czech Republic
90 T-72 Avenger - USA and Netherlands
100+ Leopard 1A5 main battle tanks - Denmark
8 Leopard 2A4N Tanks - Norway

Helicopters delivered with more promised soon:

2 Mil Mi-8MTV-1 transport helicopters - Latvia
2 Mil Mi-2 transport helicopters - Latvia
2 Mil Mi-8 helicopters - Lithuania
6 Kamov Ka-32A11BC helicopters - Portugal
4 Mil Mi-17 helicopters - Slovakia
1 Mil Mi-2 helicopter - Slovakia
20 Mi-17V5s helicopters - USA
14 Mi-8 helicopters - Croatia
4 Mil Mi-24V attack helicopters - Czech Republic

Jets

Four Su-25 ground attack jets - North Macedonia


31 posted on 03/08/2023 5:35:40 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: jacknhoo; Timber Rattler; marktwain

yes, jacknhoo - Ukraine IS the underdog in this fight.

They have received a lot of money and weapons since April 2022 —> remember that that is because of the way they fought in Feb and Mar.


32 posted on 03/08/2023 5:43:13 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Renfrew; Travis McGee

Travis - what is your response to this? for months you were posting that millions of Germans were going to freeze to death in the winter of 2022-2023.

When that didn’t happen you went mum for weeks.

Do you admit you, Travis McGee, were wrong?


33 posted on 03/08/2023 5:45:00 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Renfrew

And remember that Biden was the one who pulled out American advisors in the months before Feb 2022.

Biden also offered to ship out Zelensky - trying to give up Ukraine to Russia just as Biden gave up Afghanistan to the Taliban.

Biden also was pushed to give aid after March 2022 when public opinion saw how the Ukrainians fought more or less on their own against the Russian machine for 2 months and actually pushed back the Russians.

Biden is Putin’s pal it seems


34 posted on 03/08/2023 5:48:52 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos; Timber Rattler; marktwain

“yes, jacknhoo - Ukraine IS the underdog in this fight.”

_______________________________

All of these nations are militarily engaging in this WWIII:

Estonia, the United Kingdom, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Denmark, Czech Republic, the Netherlands, Slovakia, The United States of America, Albania, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Canada, Colombia, Croatia, Czech Republic, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Iran, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Montenegro, Morocco, New Zealand, North Macedonia, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Korea, Spain, Sudan, Sweden, Taiwan, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Belarus, North Korea, Syria, Republic of Abkhazia, Eritrea, Kazakhstan, Libya, Venezuela, Sudan, Cuba, Nicaragua, Russia and China.


35 posted on 03/08/2023 5:49:27 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Timber Rattler

36 posted on 03/08/2023 5:50:40 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Cronos

Riiiiight. NATO has nothing to do with any of this.


37 posted on 03/08/2023 5:53:24 AM PST by KobraKai
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To: jacknhoo

It must have taken you a couple of days to type all of that! Impressive!


38 posted on 03/08/2023 5:54:05 AM PST by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: jacknhoo
All of these nations are militarily engaging in this WWIII

aside from Russia and Belarus, WRONG - all the others are merely supplying equipment, no combat troops

Russia is the one who started this war, so of course they're "militarily engaged"

and Belarus allowed Russia to launch attacks from its territory, so it has an extra level of complicity that the other countries don't


39 posted on 03/08/2023 5:56:37 AM PST by canuck_conservative (if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors, we wouldn't need NATO anymore)
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To: Travis McGee
How is the German economy doing? - Not as bad as you are making it out to be -- nowhere near as bad

Altogether, real GDP is expected to increase slightly by 0.2% in 2023. This represents an upward revision from the -0.6% projected in the Autumn Forecast, mainly driven by abating energy prices and by the policy support to households and firms which have shored up the growth outlook

Altogether, real GDP is expected to increase slightly by 0.2% in 2023. This represents an upward revision from the -0.6% projected in the Autumn Forecast, mainly driven by abating energy prices and by the policy support to households and firms which have shored up the growth outlook. In 2024, growth is expected to rebound to 1.3%.

40 posted on 03/08/2023 5:58:42 AM PST by Cronos
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