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Pentagon Will Increase Artillery Production Sixfold for Ukraine
New York Times ^ | Jan. 24, 2023 | John Ismay and Eric Lipton

Posted on 01/26/2023 9:03:18 PM PST by Zhang Fei

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon is racing to boost its production of artillery shells by 500 percent within two years, pushing conventional ammunition production to levels not seen since the Korean War as it invests billions of dollars to make up for shortfalls caused by the war in Ukraine and to build up stockpiles for future conflicts.

The effort, which will involve expanding factories and bringing in new producers, is part of “the most aggressive modernization effort in nearly 40 years” for the U.S. defense industrial base, according to an Army report.

The new investment in artillery production is in part a concession to reality: While the Pentagon has focused on fighting wars with small numbers of more expensive precision-guided weapons, Ukraine is largely relying on howitzers firing unguided shells.

Before Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24, the U.S. Army’s production of 14,400 unguided shells a month had been sufficient for the American military’s way of war. But the need to supply Kyiv’s armed forces prompted Pentagon leaders to triple production goals in September, and then double them again in January so that they could eventually make 90,000 or more shells a month.

Unguided artillery shells have become the cornerstone of the 11-month-old conflict, with both Ukrainian and Russian troops firing thousands of howitzer rounds at each other every day, along a front line more than 600 miles long. These weapons are most likely responsible for the greatest percentage of war casualties, which U.S. officials have estimated at more than 100,000 on each side.

The Army’s decision to expand its artillery production is the clearest sign yet that the United States plans to back Ukraine no matter how long the war continues.

The ammunition the United States has sent to Ukraine includes not just the 155-millimeter shells for howitzers

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: Lumper20
What is the EU doing?

But I agree with you -- the EU and EU countries should be doing more, much more

101 posted on 01/27/2023 5:35:57 AM PST by Cronos
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To: wildcard_redneck
WEF controlled NATO into Russia's breakaway territory.

NATO is not WEF controlled

And Ukraine is not "Russia's breakaway territory"

Or do you consider the USA to be "the UK's breakaway territory" today in 2023?

102 posted on 01/27/2023 5:37:26 AM PST by Cronos
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To: DannyTN
Fortunately Congress gets it, the DOD gets it, Europe gets it, NATO gets it, the UN gets it, the world gets it.

I look at this and I have the exact opposite reaction. When Lindsey Graham, Bernie Sanders and Mo Brooks all vote the same way on anything more consequential than officially naming a U.S. post office building, I know the interests of the U.S. citizenry are about to be undermined.

Let's keep in mind that the last time we saw all the players you listed "get" something, we had COVID lockdowns and vaccine mandates. F#%& that.

103 posted on 01/27/2023 5:41:35 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: wildcard_redneck

The WEF doesn’t control NATO. Putin is a WEF man, Zelenskyy is a WEF man. How do you reconcile that?


104 posted on 01/27/2023 5:41:41 AM PST by M_Continuum
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To: Revel

Someone here at FR called Trump Neville Chamberlain because of his opposition to what will certainly become nuclear war.

Crazy and insane delusion, it’s even infested people who ought to know better.


105 posted on 01/27/2023 5:42:03 AM PST by OKSooner (War is a racket. COVID-19 is a racket.)
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To: rottweiller_inc
So what?so what?

1. The recreation of Empires puts american power and economy at risk. The USA explicitly got the Europeans to give up their empires after world wars one and two.

2. Allowing countries to expand territorially by military force takes us back to the 19th century and the ongoing wars and deaths as well as impacts to the American economy is not what we want to go back to

106 posted on 01/27/2023 5:43:22 AM PST by Cronos
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To: rottweiller_inc
The European union was Europe attempt to recreate the roman empire. - what are you smoking? Have you even seen a map of
the EU

v/s the Roman empires?

Much of the EU was not part of the Roman empire and much of the Roman empire is not part of the EU.

Furthermore, there is a massive difference in governance, in politics etc.

It's not the Roman empire in any which way

107 posted on 01/27/2023 5:44:48 AM PST by Cronos
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To: rottweiller_inc
. Why is it our business when people in other parts of the world do that concern their sovereignty (or lack thereof) and their future.

It's your business to prevent a world war, which is what the supply of arms to Ukraine is doing

This is 1938 again, andinstead of the west giving up Czechoslovakia to Nazi Germany, the west is arming Czechoslovakia and the Czechs are giving the Nazis a bloody eye

That would and is preventing a war in which westerners get killed and saving the Czechs from years of servitude and persecution

108 posted on 01/27/2023 5:46:39 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos
"NATO is not WEF controlled
And Ukraine is not “Russia's breakaway territory”

The WEF controls both the EU and America so by extension controls NATO. Do you even know what the WEF is, what it does, and what it believes?

Globohomos are not critical thinkers.

109 posted on 01/27/2023 5:48:56 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (Germans are bat-crap crazy for cold showers, high energy bills, and boiled turnips.)
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To: Cronos

Oh I agree oh hardly we should stay out of it we should stay out of it from the get go. I remember Donald trump was impeached for calling for an investigation into the things that were going on Ukraine before Russia even started amassing troops on the border


110 posted on 01/27/2023 5:49:51 AM PST by rottweiller_inc (inter canem et lupum)
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To: M_Continuum

I’m probably in the minority here, but I think this WEF is like Met Gala. Rich people pay money to appear at some party because they believe this is what rich people must do.

By going there they also demonstrate that they are rich. I hear it is now a quarter of a million just to get a pass.


111 posted on 01/27/2023 5:53:27 AM PST by Krosan
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To: Krosan

That’s likely part of it. It’s where the ‘cool kids’ hang-out.
It’s also to meet each other. Trump said he made new friend’s and connections at the 2018 meeting at Davos.
You either have to be a member (70,000) or be invited.
It’s more or less a think tank where folks with money try to solve what they see as global issues. Speakers have all kinds of ideas, but very few earn a place on the agenda.


112 posted on 01/27/2023 6:07:54 AM PST by M_Continuum
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To: SeeSharp; lightman

China lacks the ability to mount a sustained effort in Taiwan.

As soon as the Chinese ports are blockaded Chinese exports, imports and logistical operations not only curtail the efforts in Taiwan but destroy the economy


113 posted on 01/27/2023 6:10:49 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: Cronos

Several nations are all supplying Ukraine with supplies and arms. We have troops already pre-positioned in Poland. Our “advisors” are in country instructing the use of weapons. This is how we became engaged in WW I


114 posted on 01/27/2023 6:16:11 AM PST by realcleanguy (quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
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To: M_Continuum

[That’s likely part of it. It’s where the ‘cool kids’ hang-out.
It’s also to meet each other. Trump said he made new friend’s and connections at the 2018 meeting at Davos.
You either have to be a member (70,000) or be invited.
It’s more or less a think tank where folks with money try to solve what they see as global issues. Speakers have all kinds of ideas, but very few earn a place on the agenda.]


Klaus Schwab is a genius at self-promotion. He runs what is basically a glorified celebrity poker game where he gets the entire pot. Conference fees for participants run into the hundreds of thousands *each*. For the pols and business figures at the top of the totem pole, it’s a chance to preen. For the people lower down, it’s an opportunity to show they’ve arrived, that they’re important enough to hang out with Tony Blair and Bill Gates.

As conference/expo/exhibition organizers go, you have to hand it to Schwab - he run the most prestigious event around. No Al Czervik-like (the Rodney Dangerfield character in Caddyshack) rug salesmen to sully up the forum. Class all the way.

Steve Sailer, who runs a blog at Unz, has it summed up:


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1615210033645748224.html
[Klaus Schwab is a professor who got invited to the secret Bilderberg Conference of center-right senior big shots (e.g., Kissinger), then had a great business idea: Instead of keeping it a secret, tell the media that invitees to his new Davos shindig REALLY DO RUN THE WORLD.

Instead of keeping the proceedings secret like Bilderberg does, Schwab blasted out as much publicity for his new Davos get-together as he could beg, borrow, or steal.

The reason Klaus Schwab dresses like a Bond movie supervillain is not because he is a supervillain, but because it’s good for his brand when you think he has supervillain powers.]


Bilderberg’s organizer cultivated secrecy as part of its mystique. Davos cultivated hype. Looks like hype and kayfabe has won out, much as WWE dwarfs real wrestling in terms of its audience.

You gotta love it - a chatfest featuring boring businessmen and pols bloviating about their big ideas in front of their peers and arrivistes, all trying to avoid falling asleep while appearing interested. And Schwab is laughing all the way to the bank while everyone goes gaga over what is a glorified emcee and self-promoter mouthing whatever platitudes are in fashion.


115 posted on 01/27/2023 6:23:22 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Arcadian Empire

I think Joe Biden and his staff want a political win to say they defeated Russia. So I think it will go nuclear for their pride.


116 posted on 01/27/2023 6:25:17 AM PST by realcleanguy (quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
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To: dforest

I agree. Russia has lost 100K and Ukraine has lost 125K. This is madness. And the WH wants you to think everything is just fine and lets send another 35 billion in arms and bullets. Oh, now tanks along with the drones, satellite intel, artillery, advisors, etc. We are just minutes away from committing troops once Ukraine runs out of them.


117 posted on 01/27/2023 6:27:43 AM PST by realcleanguy (quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
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To: Renfrew

Russia has a kill ratio of 8:1, has eliminated most of the experienced soldiers, has a strong economy (Ukraine in contrast doesn’t have an economy), and are massing under an ISR and IAD umbrella for the final push.

If you believe the propaganda, Russia has already lost; but in fact, Russia is methodically winning. The only question now is if Russia has decided whether or to take all of Ukraine; whereas before, that wasn’t part of the plan.

This will be over before Spring.


118 posted on 01/27/2023 6:34:43 AM PST by Salvavida (“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.”)
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To: Zhang Fei

“… You gotta love it - a chatfest featuring boring businessmen and pols bloviating about their big ideas in front of their peers and arrivistes, all trying to avoid falling asleep while appearing interested. And Schwab is laughing all the way to the bank while everyone goes gaga over what is a glorified emcee and self-promoter mouthing whatever platitudes are in fashion.….”
**********************************************************

Hmmmm….you mean we should “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain”? 😊


119 posted on 01/27/2023 6:37:28 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: realcleanguy

All of that for this.

https://amgreatness.com/2023/01/26/inside-the-nazi-whitewash-of-ukraine/


120 posted on 01/27/2023 6:37:55 AM PST by dforest (Joy Behar is a big mouth cow.)
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