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Secession movements gain traction in US amid deepening political rifts: 'A long-standing problem'
Fox News ^ | 12/2/22 | Jon Brown

Posted on 12/03/2022 10:38:08 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

Grassroots movements of Americans seeking a political divorce from their fellow citizens have recently gained traction amid deepening cultural rifts, according to multiple figures involved with secessionist organizations who spoke to Fox News Digital.

Such movements have emerged in every region of the U.S. and vary in their goals. Some aim for entire states to leave the union to form a new country, while others endeavor more simply that rural red counties secede from the domination of blue urban centers to form new states. All agree that the disagreements with their political opponents have grown intractable.

"We're at a point, I think, where America is not necessarily in the balance, but the institution known as the United States is in the balance," Daniel Miller, president of the Texas Nationalist Movement (TNM), told Fox News Digital.

Miller's organization endeavors to see Texas leave the union and revert to the sovereign republic it was from 1836, when it broke from Mexico, until it was annexed by the U.S. in 1845.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilwar; constitution; crime; cwii; secession
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To: dragnet2

I’ve said what I had to say, deal with it as you like.


141 posted on 12/03/2022 8:40:14 PM PST by 5th MEB
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To: 5th MEB

I’ve read lot of your posts, and you seem to be a Communist and possibly a convicted child molester, based on your comments. But don’t ask me to provide links or quotes. Deal with as you like. ☺


142 posted on 12/03/2022 8:46:31 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: joma89

I would tell them I am booked for the season.

Double the price.


143 posted on 12/03/2022 8:47:26 PM PST by rxh4n1
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To: robowombat
Two million armed resisters, a joke,

Dummy BOTH sides will have an army, navy, air force.

144 posted on 12/03/2022 10:00:45 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va; All

Sorry, the feds know full well to keep control of all the assets of the armed forces. Most of the NG hierarchy are not going to risk their hides neither are the reservists. Places like the guard/reserve base at Meridian will be quickly under federal control by a cadre from nearby Columbus AFB and ‘loyalist guard/reservists. Does anyone really believe masses of guard rank and file are going turn out to fight the regulars. These people are far from heroes and mostly in the guard for the extra pay and commissary privileges, they have no interest in fighting and are not going to risk jobs, mortgaged house and a normal life and leaving their families flat broke and their wives and other family members screeching at them to go off to fight the regulars, who they know are a hell of a lot better at this stuff than they are.

Also a fair number of these people are negroes who sure have no interest in some whitey secession excursion. You are just indulging in a fantasy. The regulars plus FBI/DHS would crush any fools who would try some foolishness in a matter of a few weeks, or a few days.


145 posted on 12/03/2022 10:16:26 PM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat
Sorry, the feds know full well to keep control of all the assets of the armed forces.

Where do you think weapons are made? Texas makes moat of the guided weapons. Many can be shipped in. There are 3,000 counties in the USA and 500,000 active duty army ( mostley woke remfs ). That is 166 soldiers per county. The standing army is a joke.

146 posted on 12/03/2022 10:42:20 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: rxh4n1

+1


147 posted on 12/04/2022 3:37:23 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Not sure about Alaska or Utah. The blue/red boundaries would likely change and be rounded off as red counties in blue states would want to become part of the red states. Biggest issue is that most every red state has a big blue city in it. Southern IL would likely want to join MO but there's St Louis hellhole separating them. Red states would have to pass some laws that would make leftists want to move out. Mandatory open carry and stand your ground laws.

148 posted on 12/04/2022 6:49:19 AM PST by Pollard ( >>> The Great Reset is already underway! <<<)
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To: Pollard

Banning abortion would help too.

*Quick Public Executions of Criminals (less than 1 year)
*Reinstate Prayer in Public Schools


149 posted on 12/04/2022 7:20:45 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Thilly Thailor

“Where do I err?”

Maybe nowhere! I never thought of that.

FedGov would probably declare it illegal, but at this point, who really cares?


150 posted on 12/04/2022 9:35:52 AM PST by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: Savage Beast

Yes, I would say this is the kind of thing you don’t want to go into unprepared or it will result it a complete disaster.


151 posted on 12/04/2022 10:38:40 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: sergeantdave

The army didn’t lose. Joe Biden surrendered.


152 posted on 12/04/2022 10:39:01 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Well, in that case, hadn’t the capitol been moved away from Rome before the split? So you might say the West seceded from the ruling authority of the East. Either way, I think it didn’t result in an immediate war because there were too many other external and internal problems to deal with. I doubt that would be the case if some part of the US tried to secede.


153 posted on 12/04/2022 10:41:54 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

By abrogating many federal laws, California and Oregon have in effect already seceded from the Union. Both are in reality no longer America


154 posted on 12/04/2022 10:49:09 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: Boogieman

When the general surrenders, the army loses.


155 posted on 12/04/2022 2:56:57 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

Perhaps, but we don’t judge the competence of the army based on the incompetence of their civilian leadership.


156 posted on 12/04/2022 4:34:14 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: stevio

What would you do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Well first, no Democrat who knows me would ever ask such a question because they would know they would not like my response. Your neighbor is putting you to the test of your convictions, knowingly or unknowingly, not sure which. So if I was you I would not hesitate to explain to them exactly why you cannot honor their request by respectfully explaining to them that in your view Democrat voters and their politicians are continuously advancing policies that are detrimental to the country and to every one of its citizens. I would NOT entertain ANY rebuttal, and if one is attempted I would abruptly end the conversation by pointing out that the yard signs leave no doubt in your mind where they stand. Any further conversation would be pointless and you could point that out as you proceed to go on with your own business. Hope that answers your question!


157 posted on 12/05/2022 3:15:39 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Democrat politicians and voters are dangerous psychopaths. They confirm it everyday.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

It certainly does!


158 posted on 12/06/2022 6:36:49 AM PST by stevio (.)
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To: stevio

It certainly does!
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Thanks. I know my suggested response may seem overly harsh to you, but my conviction is that this ideological conflict is in no sense simply a debating game we’re playing. On the contrary, people like your neighbor, knowingly or otherwise, are doing serious damage to our Constitutional Republic. And if they’re not stopped soon our children and grandchildren will be suffering and dying because of what they’re doing. Have a great day!


159 posted on 12/06/2022 8:29:19 AM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Democrat politicians and voters are dangerous psychopaths. They confirm it everyday.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

I’m beginning to wonder if it’s too late. At any rate, you have a great day too and Merry Christmas!


160 posted on 12/06/2022 8:39:20 AM PST by stevio (.)
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