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Trump Declares ‘You Can Never Have Free & Fair Elections With Mail-In Ballots’
Valiant News ^ | 11/29/2022 | Andrew White

Posted on 11/29/2022 5:58:20 PM PST by SoConPubbie

45th President Donald Trump slammed establishment Republican pundits and politicians who blame him for the Republican Party’s lackluster midterm performance in a post to Truth Social on Tuesday.

According to the former president, Democrats, RINOs, and the mainstream media fail to acknowledge that his midterm endorsees saw overwhelming success in November, noting that without his help, “the numbers would have been a disaster.”

“I was 232-22 in the MIDTERM ELECTIONS, and still have to listen to DEMS, RINOS, and the Fake News explain how poorly I did (Also, 98.6% in Republican Nomination Endorsements!),” President Trump wrote.

“Without my Endorsement of Republican Candidates, the numbers would have been a disaster. Same for 2018 and the CORRUPT ELECTION OF 2020, where almost everyone won because, and with the help of, ME – EXCEPT ME – and that’s because the Presidential Election was RIGGED & STOLEN!” he added.

In an earlier Truth Social post, the 45th President stressed that American election integrity will always be questionable so long as states continue to allow the widespread use of controversial and arguably fraud-prone mail-in ballots.

“REMEMBER, YOU CAN NEVER HAVE FAIR & FREE ELECTIONS WITH MAIL-IN BALLOTS – NEVER, NEVER, NEVER. WON’T AND CAN’T HAPPEN!!!” Trump wrote.

President Trump has recently been critical of Arizona’s most recent election, which saw serious election issues taking place at nearly half of all voting centers in the state’s largest county.

“Massive numbers of ‘BROKEN’ voting machines in Republican Districts on Election Day. Mechanics sent in to ‘FIX’ them made them worse. Kari had to be taken to a Democrat area, which was working perfectly, to vote. Her opponent ran the Election,” Trump wrote in a subsequent Truth Social post.

“This is yet another criminal voting operation – SO OBVIOUS. Kari Lake should be installed Governor of Arizona. This is almost as bad as the 2020 Presidential Election, which the Unselect Committee refuses to touch because they know it was Fraudulent!” he added.

Woman goes NUCLEAR on Maricopa County official over election chaos

“This is a MUST WATCH. Our Elections are Rigged. Mail-In Ballots are a total SCAM. How about all of those ‘BROKEN’ Republican Voting Machine? GET SMART REPUBLICANS, OR YOU WON’T HAVE A PARTY (OR COUNTRY) LEFT!” President Trump wrote .



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: Dr. Franklin

Don’t try to make mail-in balloting work. That is a fool’s errand and the bad guys will always find ways to abuse it and cheat. Ban it altogether. We didn’t use it for hundreds of years and there is no reason to use it now.

Yes, “Mail in voting is a privilege, not a right.” If you are too lazy or unconcerned to show up at the polls, we don’t want you picking our representatives.

Frankly, I’d like to re-institute a land ownership requirement. Land owners have the biggest stake in the game.


21 posted on 11/29/2022 7:01:49 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Great list. Add a required hand count audit with pen ink check to any precinct using computerized tabulators, if not doing away with computerized tabulators completely.

As the voter registrations are all kept in the database, it’s been demonstrated that the software could magically create/print ballots for people who never actually voted. This is especially possible for voting systems that are 100% computerized and don’t allow any pen ink in the process at all.


22 posted on 11/29/2022 7:01:50 PM PST by Golden Eagle ( What's in YOUR injection? )
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To: central_va
Trump votes — for himself, naturally — in person in Florida

What would you say if I told you Trump voted by mail-in ballot for the Florida primary in 2020?
23 posted on 11/29/2022 7:07:05 PM PST by Izzatso
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

100% agree. If not required to be a land owner to vote as outlined in the original Constitution, at least proof of US Federal Income Tax payment exceeding allowed deductions. Either have some skin in the game or you’re simply a bystander.

Unfortunately this change was an amendment to the Constitution, so the only remedy is probably a convention of states, but it’s a great reason to keep working on that.


24 posted on 11/29/2022 7:07:30 PM PST by Golden Eagle ( What's in YOUR injection? )
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To: All
And I would point out that in the example provided of Trump voting in person, it states quite plainly that he voted early.
25 posted on 11/29/2022 7:10:10 PM PST by Izzatso
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To: SoConPubbie

This is a stupid take, a stupid strategy and a stupid strategy, and it’s a guaranteed loser.

If the election system is rigged, if ballot harvesting and mail in ballots are rigging the election, if broken voting machines is rigging the elections, and all that is morally wrong, there’s no point in running for office because ... as Trump said ... the system is rigged.

That’s how rigged elections work, you don’t win them if the people who rig the system don’t want you to.

How does that premise win the White House? Seriously? How can you motivate an overwhelming majority of voters to throw their vote away in a rigged election?

Instead, and hear me out here, maybe you acknowledge the flaws in the system, dedicate yourself to replacing the flawed system with one that restores everyone’s faith in voting (national holiday, voter ID, there’s plenty of options).... and then put dumptruck loads of money and train thousands of activists and volunteers on the singular task of using every legal tactic to make the flawed system work for them.

Do it earlier, do it better, do it harder than the dems have done it.

Democrats dropping off ballot applications at nursing homes and filling them out on “behalf” of the residents? Have teams of older republican activists get to those nursing homes first, talk with the residents and follow up with helping the residents legally send off their absentee ballots.

Microtargeting campaigns using focused messaging to excite single issue voters and get them to make a decison to fill out and send in a ballot out of emotion? Do it, get their ballots in and then encourage the most passionate of them to keep participating by talking to friends, knocking on doors, driving folks to ballot drop off locations.

I personally think this strategy is only goi g to be successful if the big G GOP and Trump work together, immense resources need to be invested for this to work, and having half of the political right fighting with the other half is just not going to work.

The whole campaign can still be Trump-centric, it can still fall under the banner of “Save America”, but it also answers the question of “How?”


26 posted on 11/29/2022 7:12:08 PM PST by jz638
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To: Dr. Franklin

Hoist the USPS on their own petard. Require any mail-in ballots to use Registered mail, with return receipt requested. It’s the ONLY remaining no-BS class of mail with full chain of custody recording. Nobody dares to f%@k with Red mail.


27 posted on 11/29/2022 7:12:13 PM PST by pingman ("I ain't in no ways tarred.." of WINNING!)
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To: Golden Eagle

“you’re simply a bystander”

If it were only that! Bystanders would be somewhat harmless. But we have two classes of people, producers and takers living off the producers. The fraction of takers has been growing for about 60 decades ever since LBJ ruined the nation.


28 posted on 11/29/2022 7:17:47 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker!)
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To: tennmountainman
He's a genius. Just ask him.

A REAL genius would have realized that in 2019.

29 posted on 11/29/2022 7:22:01 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

What are you trying to do? You want to take all the fun out the democrats are having with creating votes out of nowhere?

The democrats are great magicians.


30 posted on 11/29/2022 7:22:36 PM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: JonPreston

I like the way you put that.


31 posted on 11/29/2022 7:25:21 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Exactly. We’re seeing the same specific concern that led the founders to require land ownership play out. The takers starting to vote for freebies until the producers are tapped out. Essentially socialism which is doomed to failure implemented by vote.


32 posted on 11/29/2022 7:25:43 PM PST by Golden Eagle ( What's in YOUR injection? )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Don’t try to make mail-in balloting work. That is a fool’s errand and the bad guys will always find ways to abuse it and cheat. Ban it altogether. We didn’t use it for hundreds of years and there is no reason to use it now.

We live in a highly mobile society. People often take work assignments away from home for months at a time, like our military personnel. We also have more elderly people who can't get out easily. I don't believe that mail in voting will get banned entirely. There is too much demand for it, but it should be discouraged.

Frankly, I’d like to re-institute a land ownership requirement. Land owners have the biggest stake in the game.

That's about as likely to happen as restoring indentured servitude.
33 posted on 11/29/2022 7:26:30 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: SoConPubbie; All
I've been compiling my own list of "Comprehensive Election Reform" in 2022. Here is the list so far. Please send other ideas and suggestions. I'm surprised I haven't seen such a list presented and discussed in an article or series of articles. Perhaps I just missed it.
  1. Only citizes of the USA can vote in elections.
  2. Erase all voter rolls after every quadrennial presidential election. Everybody has to re-register IN PERSON with valid ID (Birth Certificate and Passport preferred) within 12 months of the election. The registrar can send a representative to shut-ins.
  3. Paper ballots.
  4. Only in person voting is allowed with valid government ID, ideally Birth Certificate and Passport.
  5. Mail-in voting is illegal.
  6. Purple ink-stained fingers after voting.
  7. No drop-boxes outside polling places. They are permitted INSIDE polling places with polling workers manning them.
  8. Eliminate ranked choice voting.
  9. Eliminate "jungle" primaries and cross-party voting in primaries.
  10. Severely limit or eliminate ballot harvesting. A person cannot submit more than one (perhaps two) ballots for other people AND they must be proven blood relatives.
  11. No same-day registration and "motor voter" registration. Voting should not be "easy." That breeds lazy, uninformed citizens, the bane of a representative Republic. It should be somewhat challenging to register.
  12. Restrict absentee ballots to the military and people who appear before a registrar in person and provide a valid reason no more than three months before an election.
  13. Election DAY, not election SEASON.
  14. All ballot counting must be completed by midnight of Election Day.
  15. Only open-source code can be used used in vote tabulating machines.
  16. Make private funding of elections illegal. Prevent people like Soros and Zuckerberg from subverting elections.
  17. People receiving any federal welfare assistance programs cannot vote.
  18. AND, if you REALLY want to get serious about "saving our democracy," execute people convicted of vote fraud. OK, I'd be happy with 20 year sentences.
None of this is radical because it is pretty much the way things were until about 1990. What is radical is letting the far leftists subvert our election processes so radically the past 30 years.
34 posted on 11/29/2022 7:27:08 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker!)
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To: Dr. Franklin

Military personnel would obviously be the one big exception. It always has been. Military absentee ballots generally work well (except they failed big time in 2000).

“People often take work assignments away from home for months at a time” — the keyword there is HOME. People have a home. If you change domiciles, it isn’t that hard to go re-register to vote, get your sample ballot by mail, and go to your polling place. It doesn’t matter one bit how often you work in an office or work from home.

Elderly shut-ins can be visited by mobile vote registrars for registration purposes or to collect a ballot. Or they can use the limited traditional and legitimate UNCOMMON absentee ballot. I used absentee ballots in probably 50% of the elections I voted in over a three decade span because of extensive business travel.

The most mobile people are the homeless. Frankly, without a HOME, you shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

I did not pass any judgement of whether any of my ideas are actually doable. Some probably are, some not. But if we don’t put a strong stake in the ground, we’ll never get anywhere. It’s an old negotiating tactic to put in items that you know will be rejected by the other party and then you can wail and moan about giving them up.


35 posted on 11/29/2022 7:34:36 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker!)
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To: SoConPubbie

or dropboxes !


36 posted on 11/29/2022 7:55:08 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Izzatso

“ Which states are those? Did any Republican candidates win their elections in those states, or only Democrats?”

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Seriously??? CA, CO and NY mailed to everyone. I’m sure some republicans won but that isn’t the point.

If only 120-160 million vote normally and 330 million are mailed without request….what are the odds that those that have no interest in voting won’t sell their ballot? Surely you’ve seen examples of ballot harvesting and groups that offer money for ballots. Granted, those that might request a ballot can do the same thing. But if everyone gets a ballot, groups can target entire neighborhoods looking to purchase ballots.

If states treated ballots like banks treat money, none of this would be an issue. Stopping mass mailed ballots is only a bandaid.


37 posted on 11/29/2022 7:58:31 PM PST by Moe-Patrick (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem)
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To: Izzatso
And I would point out that in the example provided of Trump voting in person, it states quite plainly that he voted early.

So what? I voted early, in person.

There’s a difference also, between absentee voting and mass mail in ballots.

You’re just looking to find a ‘gotcha’ on Trump. So tiresome.

38 posted on 11/29/2022 8:01:50 PM PST by CAluvdubya (<---Need to change my name to CAluvNV since I now live in NV. )
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To: Moe-Patrick; Izzatso

“ Which states are those? Did any Republican candidates win their elections in those states, or only Democrats?”

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Seriously??? CA, CO and NY mailed to everyone. I’m sure some republicans won but that isn’t the point.

If only 120-160 million vote normally and 330 million are mailed without request….what are the odds that those that have no interest in voting won’t sell their ballot? Surely you’ve seen examples of ballot harvesting and groups that offer money for ballots. Granted, those that might request a ballot can do the same thing. But if everyone gets a ballot, groups can target entire neighborhoods looking to purchase ballots.

If states treated ballots like banks treat money, none of this would be an issue. Stopping mass mailed ballots is only a bandaid.

* * * * * *

Here (CA) everyone was mailed a ballot, but some (from what I saw) still showed up to vote in person. What happened to the ballots not mailed? You’re supposed to surrender them to the elections official at the polling place and watch them “spoil” it so it can’t be voted again.

“If states treated ballots like banks treat money, none of this would be an issue.”

Like a mailed check, that can’t be cashed until it is endorsed?

Or like a credit card, that can’t be used until you activate it from your home phone number?


39 posted on 11/29/2022 8:13:19 PM PST by thecodont
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To: CAluvdubya

Read the posts in this thread equating early voting to fraud.

Over a million Republicans voted by mail-in ballot in 2022.
Over a million Republicans voted early in Florida in 2022.
There was a ‘Red Wave’ in only ONE state in 2022. Which one was it?

And I’m not “looking” for a gotcha. It’s lurking in plain sight.


40 posted on 11/29/2022 8:16:22 PM PST by Izzatso
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