Historians privately warn Biden that America’s democracy is teetering

Washington Post ^ | 8/10/22 | By Michael Scherer, Ashley Parker and Tyler Pager

[EBH]

When Biden met with historians last week at the White House, they compared the threat facing America to the pre-Civil War era and to pro-fascist movements before World War II

President Biden paused last week, during one of the busiest stretches of his presidency, for a nearly two-hour private history lesson from a group of academics who raised alarms about the dire condition of democracy at home and abroad.

The conversation during a ferocious lightning storm on Aug. 4 unfolded as a sort of Socratic dialogue between the commander in chief and a select group of scholars, who painted the current moment as among the most perilous in modern history for democratic governance, according to multiple people familiar with the discussions who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a private meeting.

Comparisons were made to the years before the 1860 election when Abraham Lincoln warned that a “house divided against itself cannot stand” and the lead-up to the 1940 election, when President Franklin D. Roosevelt battled rising domestic sympathy for European fascism and resistance to the United States joining World War II.

The diversion was, for Biden, part of a regular effort to use outside experts, in private White House meetings, to help him work through his approach to multiple crises facing his presidency. Former president Bill Clinton spoke with Biden in May about how to navigate inflation and the midterm elections. A group of foreign policy experts, including former Republican advisers, came to the White House in January to brief Biden before the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

These meetings have come as Biden faces the isolation that is endemic to presidency, a problem that some Democrats say has been worsened by the coronavirus pandemic, which restricted visitors through much of the first year of his presidency, and...

[philman_36]

Know anybody who does memes? Take it.

[Starboard]

It’s not the country I grew up in and wore it’s uniform.

**********

I did as well. The mess we’re in is very hard on veterans who served honorably and believed deeply in what they did.

[Jacquerie]

<>The Mar-a-Lago raid is concrete evidence that the US has passed a significant point of no return.<>

Yet Freepers will vote as if it never happened.

Oh, and too many of the same Freepers wet their panties at the thought of utilizing the Framer’s gift of Article V.

[combat_boots]

But just think about all the IPsec points you can use to train the younguns

[Recovering_Democrat]

Any teetering is because of corrupt outlets like the Washington comPost and the Democrat party.

[Lurkinanloomin]

The Republic ended at noon on Usurpation Day when ALL of our elected AND appointed swore in the ineligible Kenyan from Indonesia in direct violation of the Constitution.

[Eagles6]

😉👌

[Starboard]

I liked your eloquent, heartfelt post.

But I have to be honest. I am not so sanguine because the country’s demographics, culture, morality, and love of freedom have all changed in profound ways. I hate to say it but we’re just not the same country we once were.

We have already crossed the threshold into socialism. If you look at it objectively you’ll see that virtually every aspect of our lives is subject to one form or another of government control, regulation, and oversight. I never thought we’d see such overbearing influence.

Like you, I will fight back because we had a great legacy of liberty, security, industry, rule of law, and a superior representative democracy that I don’t want to see die. But make no mistake, we’re fighting an uphill battle.

The Left is determined and will stop at nothing to win. Unfortunately for us, we don’t have an equally determined party fighting for us. We just have a couple of people that are willing to buck their corrupt party and fight the good fight.

[Bonemaker]

No kidding! I’m not taking it very well.

[Steve_Seattle]

Biden participated in a “Socratic dialogue”? These people have no shame. How stupid do they think we are?

[mom.mom]

According to the article, Biden “participated” from another room by TV.

[nicollo]

I guessed most of those “historians” without reading the article.

Pretty funny what you say about Beschloss — total hack.

[cuz1961]

What history experts ?

Howard Zinn ? ( marxist)
The 1776ers ? ( posers)
The Lincoln log boys ? ( progs)

No, couldn’t make it ?

historian Allida Black
( who ?)

and presidential historian

Michael Beschloss.

Oh, the electric chair addict

Well then.

Ahhhhh ha ha ha ha.

Wut
Eva
Commies ( all the same)

.

[Big Red Badger]

“Move to a
CONSERVATIVE STATE!”
.
You’re Correct,
It may help.

[atc23]

Biden is there to school the historians-

on what life was really like in the civil war days

[DoughtyOne]

I wouldn’t argue with that, but it has really bothered me how our side
throws up its hands and let’s the Left win.

When that attitude started in California, I said we couldn’t let that happen.
Folks said no, it’s just California. Now it’s the nation.

Does anyone grasp what comes next?

We either stand up and object, or we’ll see Nazi Germany look tame.

[SunkenCiv]

I feel really left out, I hear the White House kitchen puts out a hell of a buffet. I'm sure Berosus does too.

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[LS]

Did any of them bother to tell the Rutabaga it’s his fault?

[GenXFreedomFighter]

Socratic dialogue indeed. This meeting was about two things:

1. How do we beat Trump and silence those who would re-elect him?
2. How do we get this old geezer re-elected, ‘cause there’s no other Democrat that we can run.

[sauropod]

Whatta bunch of WaPoo!