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How Australia saved thousands of lives while COVID killed 1 million Americans
New York Times via Seattle Times ^ | 05/15/2022 | Damien Cave

Posted on 05/15/2022 7:59:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

MELBOURNE, Australia — If the United States had the same COVID death rate as Australia, about 900,000 lives would have been saved. The Texas grandmother who made the perfect pumpkin pie might still be baking. The Red Sox-loving husband who ran marathons before COVID might still be cheering at Fenway Park.

For many Americans, imagining what might have been will be painful. But especially now, at the milestone of 1 million deaths in the United States, the nations that did a better job of keeping people alive show what Americans could have done differently and what might still need to change.

Many places provide insight: Japan, Kenya, Norway. But Australia offers perhaps the sharpest comparisons with the American experience. Both countries are English-speaking democracies with similar demographic profiles. In Australia and in the United States, the median age is 38. Roughly 86% of Australians live in urban areas, compared with 83% of Americans.

Yet Australia’s COVID death rate sits at one-tenth of America’s, putting the nation of 25 million people (with around 7,500 deaths) near the top of global rankings in the protection of life.

Australia’s location in the distant Pacific is often cited as the cause for its relative COVID success. That, however, does not fully explain the difference in outcomes between the two countries, since Australia has long been, like the United States, highly connected to the world through trade, tourism and immigration. In 2019, 9.5 million international tourists came to Australia.

So what went right in Australia and wrong in the United States?

For the standard slideshow presentation, it looks obvious: Australia restricted travel and personal interaction until vaccinations were widely available, then maximized vaccine uptake, prioritizing people who were most vulnerable before gradually opening up the country again.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; bloggers; bullfauci; codswallop; covid; covid1984; damiencave; deathrate; fakenews; newsforumabuse; newyorkslimes; nyslimesfakenews; smokybackroomforum; theapprovednarrative
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To: BenLurkin
Welcome to Stepford, Ausratalia…


41 posted on 05/15/2022 8:32:50 PM PDT by avenir (Information overload = Pattern recognition)
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To: SeekAndFind
Obesity rates are 40% higher in the US than Australia. We also have 13x the population, a good portion of which are crammed into massive cities.

It’s such nonsensical comparison.

42 posted on 05/15/2022 8:34:47 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: SeekAndFind

trump tried to stop travel to the US at the beginning, but liberals cried RACIST!


43 posted on 05/15/2022 8:36:26 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: SeekAndFind

Also, I don’t care if the article’s premise is correct (it’s clearly not, but if I were to concede). The FedGov has no authority, Constitutional or otherwise, to institute any kind of lockdown of its citizens.


44 posted on 05/15/2022 8:38:57 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: lightman

“My generation learned one simple truth: Government and their “experts” LIE”

Reminds me of a Scripture:

“Do you indeed speak righteousness, O gods (earthly rulers)? Do you judge uprightly, O sons of men? No, in heart you work unrighteousness; On earth you weigh out the violence of your hands.”—Psalm 58


45 posted on 05/15/2022 8:38:59 PM PDT by avenir (Information overload = Pattern recognition)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Tell Us” ,,?
.
The Wuhan Hoax was and still is Biological Warfare
by Enimies Foreign and Domestic to bring down this
Nation and usher in a
New World Order.
.
So bring on the
“Great Reset”. The table
is Set to destroy western civilization.
.
Hope that helps.


46 posted on 05/15/2022 8:42:18 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (We Are JONAH)
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To: SeekAndFind

They didn’t use remdesivir down there which killed most of the Americans.


47 posted on 05/15/2022 8:42:33 PM PDT by bray (The Vax is fake and deadly)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Exactly. Apples and oranges. The data are corrupted.


48 posted on 05/15/2022 8:45:22 PM PDT by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... drain the swamp.)
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To: EastTexasTraveler

RE: B.S.

Please elaborate. Anybody can write and say B.S. Explaining WHY is difficult.


49 posted on 05/15/2022 8:45:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison is about to find out the consequences of telling his people:

“vaccination will make you free”

when the voters cast their ballots next Saturday.

It’s a ranked choice system that steers people to the major parties at the end of the list but it will break 8-10 percent against his party in favor of the main opposition party (Labor) his party (Liberal-National) won by 3 last time around.


50 posted on 05/15/2022 8:50:57 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yet Australia’s COVID death rate sits at one-tenth of America’s, putting the nation of 25 million people (with around 7,500 deaths) near the top of global rankings in the protection of life.

We do not know how many Americans were killed by covid since the statistic was obscured by bribing hospitals to list deaths as covid deaths whenever possible. When you pay for junk science you get crap data. We know its very inflated, but sadly we don't know the real figure.

Secondly Australia is surrounded by ocean and shut down its border. This was far easier to do than it is in America. When Trump tried to restrict travel from other countries over concern of covid-19 he was certainly not praised by the crowd that is now pushing the big pharma version of "the science". Rather he was blocked from effectively doing so.

Now of course Australia shutting down its border delayed when the sars-cov-2 virus would become ubiquitous. It is already ubiquitous in most countries and is now becoming ubiquitous there. We don't know what percentage of the population will eventually be killed by it, but God willing it will be lower since the now dominant strain is the Omicron variant which is less potent in its negative symptoms.

So the article is, well, stupid.

51 posted on 05/15/2022 8:52:04 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: SeekAndFind

Average Vitamin D levels (for white people) absolutely have to be higher in Australia than U.S., just based upon sunlight levels.


52 posted on 05/15/2022 8:54:02 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: SeekAndFind

Ok, I don’t believe it for the following reasons:

Australians are predominantly of European ancestry.. was their genetic makeup analyzed as a reason for the differences?

Americans are generally obese and pre-diabetic due to their crappy diets... was this examined as a possible reason for the difference in outcomes?

Was blood type per population examined?

Was the difference in accounting methods for Covid deaths examined?


53 posted on 05/15/2022 8:56:49 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: avenir

Aye.

As well as Psalm 2.

And Psalm 147:2

“Put not your trust in rulers,
nor in any child of earth,
for there is no help in them.”


54 posted on 05/15/2022 8:59:44 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Complete nonsense. Australia is a sparsely populated wasteland that is remote from everywhere else with relatively easily controllable borders. Very few points of comparison with the US.


55 posted on 05/15/2022 9:00:04 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: SeekAndFind

COVID was even more politicized than AIDS.

Can’t trust ANY statistics.

Can’t trust the response or protocols here or there.

Never was at all to do with saving lives. It was always about gaining more power, control, and money.

Millions dying is NOT the problem. The problem is the wrong millions dying.


56 posted on 05/15/2022 9:01:19 PM PDT by unlearner (Si vis pacem, para bellum. Let him who desires peace prepare for war.)
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To: SeekAndFind

[[How Australia saved thousands of lives while COVID killed 1 million Americans]]

The left are using australia as their role model because they are trying to enact a word pandemic platform which will act in just the same degree of tyranny as Australia did- so expect to see a lot of glowing reports about how wonderful australia, new zealand etc were- by the feckless msm who are the howler monkeys for a one world government


57 posted on 05/15/2022 9:03:06 PM PDT by Bob434 (.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Texas grandmother who made the perfect pumpkin pie might still be baking. The Red Sox-loving husband who ran marathons before COVID might still be cheering at Fenway Park.

The pizza shop which banked on "lunch hour" trade might still be open.

The hairdresser who had her own shop nearly full time might not be reduced to a part-time "chair renter"

The country Church might still be able to support full-time, full-service ministry.

58 posted on 05/15/2022 9:03:16 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Since we’re doing whataboutism—what about Sweden...well?


59 posted on 05/15/2022 9:04:28 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: SeekAndFind
Somehow it just didn't tickle our fancy to be cowards for two years. We just waited on the virus to come a-callin', and when it did we addressed it very aggressively, were sick for a couple of days, and collected a nice, multi-year immunity.

My Mother was 84 years old with horrible COPD. For her COVID was a modest headache that lasted all of 6 hours. For me, with my own significant risk factors, I was down for all of two days.

We just chose not to let the virus multiply in our bodies for days on end while waiting on testing and Dr's appointments and such. Within 6 hours of testing positive we had antibody treatments and began our horse-dewormer regimen.

Seemed a little easier than huddling in a corner for two years.

60 posted on 05/15/2022 9:05:40 PM PDT by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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