Posted on 05/01/2022 5:48:54 AM PDT by FarCenter
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The apparently monolithic liberal west itself also cannot be understood if we forget how, historically, Europe is also a two-headed beast: one head may be tracked from Charlemagne all the way to the awful Brussels Eurocrat machine; and the other one comes from Athens and Rome, and via Byzantium/Constantinople (the Second Rome) reaches all the way to Moscow (the Third Rome).
Latin Europe, for the Orthodox, is seen as a hybrid usurper, preaching a distorted Christianity which only refers to St. Augustine, practicing absurd rites and neglecting the very important Holy Ghost. The Europe of Christian Popes invented what is considered a historical hydra – Byzantium – where Byzantines were actually Greeks living under the Roman Empire.
Western Europeans for their part see the Orthodox and the Christians from the East (see how they were abandoned by the west in Syria under ISIS and Al Qaeda) as satraps and a bunch of smugglers – while the Orthodox regard the Crusaders, the Teutonic chevaliers and the Jesuits – correctly, we must say – as barbarian usurpers bent on world conquest.
In the Orthodox canon, a major trauma is the fourth Crusade in 1204 which utterly destroyed Constantinople. The Frankish chevaliers happened to eviscerate the most dazzling metropolis in the world, which congregated at the time all the riches from Asia.
That was the definition of cultural genocide. The Frankish also happened to be aligned with some notorious serial plunderers: the Venetians. No wonder, from that historical juncture onwards, a slogan was born: “Better the Sultan’s turban than the Pope’s tiara.”
So since the 8th century, Carolingian and Byzantine Europe were de facto at war across an Iron Curtain from the Baltics to the Mediterranean (compare it with the emerging New Iron Curtain of Cold War 2.0). After the barbarian invasions, they neither spoke the same language nor practiced the same writing, rites or theology.
2.5 billion Christians can’t be wrong....well, 44,999 of the 45,000 sects might be wrong.
Coming soon, if not already, here.
Author's first sentence is complete nonsense. Its not about 'discussion on finer points of Russian history and culture' its about Putin invading neighbors. All of Europe was horrified by Putin's attack on Kyiv to install a compliant puppet regime.
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It means “Drink Your Ovaltine” in Gaelic. LOL.
It’s not religious. It is heritage. For example : Serbs and Croatians speak the same language. Croatians write it with the latin alphabet. Serbs write it with Crylic.
Nor do many freepers want to understand.
All they understand is what the propaganda machines tell them.
The fact is, the mentality of these slavic people was set during the Mongol era and was refined during the era you mention.
These people have no regard for life. NONE.
I have no problem with what Paul taught the Galatians, the problem is who are the believers in Christ. At what point can you say you are a believer but not follow the doctrines of Christ. The example I gave of Gay men and women being ordained was purposeful. I don’t believe that Jesus Christ, The Great High Priest would allow such ordinations if He were doing the ordaining. Regardless however of what I think, it doesn’t make me right but, there is some line somewhere. That line cannot be crossed and you still be a believer. Saying the name “Jesus” will not save you, even though my father told me it would.
luke 12:53
“Wrong friend. The history of the East is poorly understood in the West.”
I have a PhD in history. The region I studied was Eastern Europe. The era I studied was the Middle Ages.
Moscow was never the new Rome anymore than Lithuania: https://lithuaniatribune.com/are-lithuanians-descendants-of-ancient-romans/
So, yes, many don’t understand the history because they were not taught it. You’re proving to be an example of that.
That’s funny. Someone should tell the Russians
Relations between the Greek Orthodox Church and the western church were already bad before 1204--the schism took place in 1054. Odo of Deuil's account of the Second Crusade in the 1140s gives examples of hostile interactions between the Greeks and the Crusaders.
The Patriarch Photius in the 9th century had access to many works of ancient Greek literature that were subsequently lost. In some cases perhaps the last copy was destroyed in the sack of 1204. The Crusaders weren't interested in Greek literature. They did covet relics.
“Someone should tell the Russians”
They know. They know it’s late medieval-early modern state aggrandizement. It’s also a mistake that has retarded the development of a modern Russian state that believes in real, inalienable rights for its citizens. It’s great for a rural principality filled with serfs. It’s not great for a state the believes in the inherent value of human beings.
Bull.
Putin is sending Eastern Orthodox slavic soldiers to kill eastern Orthodox Slavic people.
they don't overlap.
Most of Russia and Ukraine were not part if the Roman empire
Here's the split of the Carolingians vs Eastern Roman
AND for Russian iron curtain 2.0
in 800 AD, southern Italy was part of "Byzantium", while most of Russia was not in the Roman world at all
“The east” is vast and not just Russia.
Russia or more specifically is derived from the Mongol khaganate.
Moscow was the tax collected loyal subject to the Great Khan. Alexander Nevsky got a helmet withQuranic verses as a gift for fighting on behalf of the Grear Khan vs the western Teutonic knights.
Moscow took over more and more of the Golden horde until the fall of Constantinople on 1453.
Then he claimed to be the third Rome.
He claimed, but his governance and clues monopolized.
Khagan Putin is the heir to the Jochi Khagan Tokhtamysh
It’s a fascinating history indeed. The vast east. Mind boggling.
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