Posted on 03/04/2022 11:10:30 AM PST by billorites
NATO nations will not impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine, despite pleas from some in Ukraine.
Secretary Jens Stoltenberg called it a "painful decision," saying that NATO has a responsibility not to escalate the conflict by engaging Russian forces directly in Ukraine, either on the ground or in the air.
Enforcing a no-fly zone would involve NATO planes in Ukraine potentially shooting down Russian planes, Stoltenberg said Friday. President Biden's administration has likewise ruled out such a move, saying it is "not going to happen."
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"We understand the desperation, but we also believe that if we did that, would end up with something that could end in a full-fledged war in Europe involving many more countries and causing much more human suffering," he said.
Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said this week that the West should consider a no-fly zone, and Ukrainian member of Parliament Lesia Vasylenko said Friday that a no-fly zone is "the only thing we need right NOW."
The war in Ukraine will likely be "worse" in the coming days, "with more death, more suffering, and more destruction, as the Russian armed forces bring in heavier weaponry and continue their attacks across the country," Stoltenberg said.
NATO is strengthening its ties with non-member nations Finland and Sweden, Stoltenberg said. He condemned the Russian attack on a nuclear power plant in Ukraine, calling it "reckless."
The head of the International Atomic Energy Administration said that no radiation was released in the attack, and that a fire at the plant was extinguished.
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Doesn't that constitute a surrender?
Europe run by liberals; same thing here except they’re closer.
Subtitute the word ‘Cowardly’ for ‘Painful’.
Showing strength and resolve is not always going to be pain free or without inconveniance.
Ukraine is not NATO. That said, we did agree to protect Ukraine in exchange for their giving up the nuclear weapons they acquired at the fall of the USSR
Well, there is a chink in their armor in Ukraine now.
No, its an admission that Ukraine's so-called "sovereignty" was really a fraud, and that NATO and the US deep state were just using them to poke and prod Russia.
It was known all along that Russia would not accept a former long-time possession, former soviet state and its neighbor being a NATO member, so Ukrainians were just cannon-fodder in a bigger scheme to keep Germany on the NATO plantation, control energy flows in Europe, poke Russia in the eye, and even embarrass Trump.
If you’re going to help then help, it’s a war and Putin will only respect the risk of a military disaster. But unlike Putin, western nations are very war averse.
What chink? Just curious. I could go on about a certain word there like .....
Why would anyone trust what the US and EU governments tell them?
No, failing to help a country under attack doesn’t “prove” it was never a real country.
I’m sick of people reaching absurd illogical conclusions.
You don’t want to get involved, you support Putin, that’s on you.
But sorry that doesn’t “prove” the absence of a “real country”. It just proves NATO made a decision to avoid war.
I’m not convinced that Ukraine can save itself without some direct military intervention from other nations. But they are, thus far, holding out better than expected with some armament aid. The NATO powers do have tools to cripple Russia if they had the balls to use them.
That said, I am beginning to suspect Russia is having some problems we don’t fully understand. I won’t rely too heavily on the media accounts or heroics. But I can confidently say, this is not how Russia planned the invasion. They have hundreds of military aircraft in theater that have not left the ground. They have supply lines and heavy armor stalled and sitting. They are engaged in skirmishes with small arms fire everywhere. I am starting to suspect that Russia might have problems that are more than flat tires and old equipment.
If Russia doesn’t take Ukraine, somehow, or it takes a prolonged efforts with mass casualties, we will better understand what military capability Russia actually has. Has the world over estimated their capabilities?
The ‘chink’ of they’re been blown to smithereens all over.
Given events of the last 20 years, can’t think of a good reason. At the time of the fall of the USSR, the west had some cred. After the ‘nation building’ attempts in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the failed exits in both cases by Democrat admins elected by fickle Americans, or stolen if one is inclined to believe, we have zero cred.
We should ask our ET buddies to step in and F with the Ruskies for us.
Perhaps they’re hungry ?
Bon appetit
NATO isn’t going to butt in on a civil war?
Meaning the Russkies?
You don’t even have the beginning of a clue, do you?
Stop watching TV.
Russia wants a buffer from the West
Also for the last 8 years, Nazis(*)
have been shelling Russian- speaking regions in the Eastern Ukraine.
Ever since the DC-inspired coup in 2014.
Putin’s had enough.
His military strategy is encirclement and cutting off of the main armed forces in the Ukraine.
The Deep State is going apesh*t because a lot of their money-laundrring, graft, human smuggling, and clandestine bioweapons labs were in the Ukraine and they don’t have backups.
And notice which side is issuing all the propaganda, from video-gamr clips passed off as live footage, to the non-martyrdom of those guys on the island, to the baldfaced lies about Russia shelling a nuclear reactor last night.
(*) the liberals are so unspeakably evil they have managed to make the very word “literally” an oxymoron
What i said was logical the poster’s conclusion was absurd. That deciding not to impose a no fly zone proves no country exists?
Are you that illogical that you agree with his premise?
Now, as to left wing thinking. Vladimir Putin is a dangerous threatening enemy of the United States. He’s been threatening us with nuclear attack for quite a few years now.
There’s something wrong in your head if you think I’m guided by left wing opinion.
In fact, if you now think siding with Russia is a “conservative” viewpoint, your wacky anti American positions will get us killed.
Are you ok? What has you so pissed off? I made no controversial comments and don’t support any sort of military action. Take your meds and cool your jets.
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