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To: PGR88

No, failing to help a country under attack doesn’t “prove” it was never a real country.

I’m sick of people reaching absurd illogical conclusions.

You don’t want to get involved, you support Putin, that’s on you.

But sorry that doesn’t “prove” the absence of a “real country”. It just proves NATO made a decision to avoid war.


10 posted on 03/04/2022 11:20:43 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams; PGR88
I’m sick of people reaching absurd illogical conclusions.

Don't really care who you are sick of nor your opinion of what constitutes "illogical conclusions".

By allowing the left-wing to frame your opinions/positions on this conflict by the false propaganda coming from those same left-wing actors, Democrats, Globalists, EU, Democrat Press, Obama, Soros, etc., your opinions on this matter and those that disagree with you have become worthless.
14 posted on 03/04/2022 11:25:55 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Williams; SoConPubbie
No, failing to help a country under attack doesn’t “prove” it was never a real country.

I said claims of protecting Ukraines so-called sovereignty are a fraud. In 2013, a "sovereign" and duly-elected Ukraine President said "No, we don't want to join the EU under terms offered."

What happened then? A CIA/Soros color-revolution to overthrow that President. What about their "sovereignty" then? Ukraine has at turns belonged to Hungary, Poland, Russia, Romania, and after 1991, it bounced between the USA and Russia. Claiming "sovereignty" after 2014 is ignoring 300 years of history. Ukraine is still a political play thing and strategic tool. the USA has used it as such and has violated its sovereignty as much as anyone else.

You don’t want to get involved, you support Putin, that’s on you.

Correct. the USA involvement is asinine and dangerous. It will harm average Americans - it already is. As to Putin - I wouldn't want to live under his control, but I haven't swallowed the cheap MSM propaganda about him either. My relatives who hate Trump are convinced he is controlled by Putin, because Pelosi, MSNBC and CNN have said so. Do you believe that too?

27 posted on 03/04/2022 11:39:22 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Williams

“You don’t want to get involved, you support Putin, that’s on you.”

Please quote the “I support Putin” part, I missed that.


33 posted on 03/04/2022 11:44:16 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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