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‘Rust’ supplier may have mistakenly provided live rounds (Alec Baldwin shooting, ABQ gun store search warrant)
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | November 30, 2021 | Matthew Reisen

Posted on 12/01/2021 10:17:39 AM PST by CedarDave

The weapons supplier for “Rust” told investigators he may have mistakenly provided the live ammunition that killed the cinematographer and wounded the director during a shooting on set near Santa Fe early last month.

Authorities say movie star Alec Baldwin was practicing a cross draw in an old church on the Bonanza Creek Ranch movie set when he discharged a live round from a Colt .45 revolver, killing Halyna Hutchins, 42, and wounding Joel Souza, 48.

“No charges have been filed as of this date,” Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office spokesman Juan Rios said Tuesday.

Seth Kenney, owner of PDQ Arm & Prop, told Santa Fe County sheriff’s deputies he may have given reloaded ammunition to the film’s armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed – who loaded the gun – before the Oct. 21 shooting, according to court records.

The father of Gutierrez-Reed, well-known armorer Thell Reed, told deputies he supplied Kenney with live rounds for firearms training with actors during a separate movie shoot out of state and Kenney took the ammunition back to New Mexico with him.

On Tuesday, deputies were in the process of executing a search warrant on Kenney’s business in a strip mall in Northeast Albuquerque.

Prop Master Sarah Zachry told deputies the ammunition for “Rust” was provided by Kenney, by Gutierrez-Reed from a previous production and “extra rounds from an individual identified as ‘Billy Ray.'”

Deputies found other suspected live ammunition on the set during a search and Kenney told them he got his ammunition from Starline Brass.

(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: alecbaldwin; baldwin; banglist; halynahutchins; joelsouza; movieshooting; rust; rustshooting
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To: CedarDave

Where did they source .45 Colt ammo? I’ve heard that stuff is unobtainium.


21 posted on 12/01/2021 10:36:06 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Spok

Right!? What good is an armorer if they can’t differentiate ammunition? This was negligence in their part. No production team will cut safety corners after this this.


22 posted on 12/01/2021 10:37:01 AM PST by Magnetar
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To: CedarDave

Baldwin in search of a fall guy. There is no excuse for Baldwin’s failure to properly handle a weapon as if it were loaded, period. Lock him up for he is an adult responsible for his own actions.


23 posted on 12/01/2021 10:38:43 AM PST by Jumper
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To: CedarDave

The armorer on set should have known the difference.


24 posted on 12/01/2021 10:40:03 AM PST by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: CedarDave

This is complete horse manure. I’ve shot blank rounds in five or six different calibers. They always had either a crimped case mouth, or a wad or plug of wax or paper composition that did not protrude beyond the case mouth. They never were charged with anything remotely similar in appearance to a jacketed or non-jacketed bullet. You could teach a six year old to distinguish between them. A qualified armorer would be able to tell them apart from 10 feet away.


25 posted on 12/01/2021 10:40:07 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: mylife
Set up for the "I didn't know the gun was loaded" defense, not to challenge the law negating that defense, but to be used against the gun industry et al.

Obviously, so called professional and trained personnel cannot be trusted with guns and ammunition.

26 posted on 12/01/2021 10:46:47 AM PST by knarf (?<p>Little kids grow up to be adults that get into powerful positions and act out their thoughts.<pg)
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To: CedarDave

What firearms dealer in good conscience could sell ammunition to someone who worked in television or movies? They may be the safest customer but they’re likely to turn it over to an idiot; whether actor, actress, or staff.


27 posted on 12/01/2021 10:48:37 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Erik Latranyi

Thank you

Even if you confirm a gun is unloaded, there’s no excuse for pointing it at someone and pulling the trigger


28 posted on 12/01/2021 10:49:50 AM PST by digger48
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To: CedarDave

wow

the lawyers are busy


29 posted on 12/01/2021 10:50:49 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: CedarDave

This is bullsh*t.
No one with any passing familiarity with firearms mistakes live rounds for dum-dums.
This story is meant to give “talking points” to limp wristed commies who don’t know the difference between a flint lock and 9mil. Its not a news story.


30 posted on 12/01/2021 10:51:05 AM PST by TonyinLA ( I don't have sufficient information to make an informed opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: CedarDave

It doesn’t matter where they got the ammo.

They should have had a weapons expert on the job. That sort
of person would never have okayed a live round.


31 posted on 12/01/2021 10:51:14 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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To: Spok

corrdct

it doesn’t absolve anyone on set of their responsibilities regarding checking and clearing the rounds being used in the firearms


32 posted on 12/01/2021 10:52:17 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: mylife

Agree, why else have an armorer?


33 posted on 12/01/2021 10:52:31 AM PST by bigbob
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To: CedarDave

I am guessing Bill Cosby did this.
Or maybe Vince Foster. I know ...
If you have some more theories this is the place to put ‘em up./cynic


34 posted on 12/01/2021 10:53:41 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: CedarDave

Yeah sure, lots of reasons but NO EXCUSES!


35 posted on 12/01/2021 10:55:53 AM PST by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows he's right and he keeps on comin'.)
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To: Seruzawa

“Anyone but a Hollywood star would be under arrest by now.”

Anyone who points and discharges a firearm at someone is responsible for the action, whether it is unloaded, or loaded. They are responsible if it is a rubber band gun. If in the process of this action a piece of the gun had broken off and injured her in any way, he would be responsible.

There is no other reason for his action. His state of mind at that point, I suspect, was to frighten or intimidate her... or at least, to annoy her.

Doesn’t really matter if the ammo fell from the sky. He did the pointing.

Is pointing a weapon, even in the context of a movie set, considered reckless if not called for in the script?

And once his actions left the script by pulling the trigger, isn’t that at the very least assault?


36 posted on 12/01/2021 11:00:04 AM PST by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: CedarDave

No charges.
He is responsible for the deaths. Criminally. Negligence.

He got preferential treatment.


37 posted on 12/01/2021 11:06:41 AM PST by I want the USA back (Comorbididies=serious health problems. They are being neglected. They can kill you. Almost did me.)
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To: Don Corleone

The armorer on set should have known the difference
/\

The big chunk of lead
hanging out the end
didn’t give the live round away ?

B.S.

Ever notice how the left’s lies never get smaller
or more believable ?

only bigger
and less believable ?

It’s like they try and pick a fight.


38 posted on 12/01/2021 11:06:54 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: CedarDave

MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.

This albatross doesn’t hang around the neck of the supplier, it hangs around the neck of whoever loaded live rounds into a stage prop, and is shared by the actor who didn’t check that the prop was safe.


39 posted on 12/01/2021 11:09:30 AM PST by HKMk23 (The right of freedom of religion shall not be derogated even if the life of the nation is at stake.)
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To: mylife

Misdirection. Bringing real ammo on site was stupid and he ought to be out of industry for that.
But, that Ahole ABaldwin is responsible. Practicing a draw is one thing. Not checking during practice for actual rounds is quite another. He deserves time — he is supposed to be a professional. Professionals have legal responsibilities.


40 posted on 12/01/2021 11:09:42 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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