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California Tries to Close the Gap in Math, but Sets Off a Backlash
nytimes ^ | 11/06/2021

Posted on 11/06/2021 6:49:09 AM PDT by devane617

California Tries to Close the Gap in Math, but Sets Off a Backlash Proposed guidelines in the state would de-emphasize calculus, reject the idea that some children are naturally gifted and build a connection to social justice. Critics say math shouldn’t be political.

But ever since a draft was opened for public comment in February, the recommendations have set off a fierce debate over not only how to teach math, but also how to solve a problem more intractable than Fermat’s last theorem: closing the racial and socioeconomic disparities in achievement that persist at every level of math education.

The California guidelines, which are not binding, could overhaul the way many school districts approach math instruction. The draft rejected the idea of naturally gifted children, recommended against shifting certain students into accelerated courses in middle school and tried to promote high-level math courses that could serve as alternatives to calculus, like data science or statistics.

The draft also suggested that math should not be colorblind and that teachers could use lessons to explore social justice — for example, by looking out for gender stereotypes in word problems, or applying math concepts to topics like immigration or inequality.

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To: Mariner

And of course, it is sublime cruelty to forcibly detain young men and women with IQs of 85 or less in what amount to prison conditions until age 18, define “failure” as inability to master Algebra II, and restrain their natural affinities while claiming that it’s for their own good.

Inevitably, females get pregnant and males get violent. What else would you expect?

And it’s not racial, per se (although accurate ability measurement is very important).

I went to an all white high school with 468 kids on my class, 10% of whom (at least) were in what were called “non-regents” classes and the boys fought and stole and the girls got knocked up just like you would expect.

Now, make a school with a 12-year academic program where not 10% if the “students” are like that, but 95+% are, hire and fire administrators and teachers if they fail to “leave no child behind”, label the vast majority of the inmates (oops I mean students) failures, implicitly if not explicitly, and then you have what we have now.


101 posted on 11/06/2021 10:37:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: Lazamataz
Jaquantia hooked all Thursday night. She gave 12 men skulljobs for $13.54 each, laid down 2 others at $56.12, and robbed a crackhead of $112.39. She spend $200 at her crack dealer. How much did she end up with?

You want that in brown dollars?

102 posted on 11/06/2021 10:50:36 AM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Labyrinthos

Exactly !!!!!

If a tenth as much effort was made toward learning math as is put toward athletics this problem wouldn’t exist !

And I am not talking about requiring everyone to be at the Hawking level to graduate HS. To get through HS algebra requires as much mental effort as these kids regularly put into learning their cell phones & video games.

Note I would say card games but I don’t think anyone plays cards anymore.


103 posted on 11/06/2021 10:55:22 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Venkman

Pretty sure they already are. Unfortunately it is unlikely they will make us smarter. Only the wealthy will be able to have designer smart babies. If you are lucky you can afford an implant to give you a competitive edge amongst your peers. Life now imitates scifi movies lol.


104 posted on 11/06/2021 11:45:46 AM PDT by M_Continuum
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To: Jim Noble

I went to a mix of all-white and bussed-in blacks from across the district. White bread administration with inner city discipline issues. Arguably the worst high school in the nation at the time. A teacher named Luann Johnson wrote about her experiences there, it became the famous movie “Dangerous Minds” with Michelle Pfeiffer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlmont_High_School

I think we should simply have vouchers, and the kids that can study & get ahead can use what’s left of their voucher money on college. We constrain bright kids to be bullied by the @$$#0/e jocks who are never going anywhere after high school, all so the schools can collect their money. Useless.


105 posted on 11/06/2021 11:53:37 AM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Nateman

The top mathematicians tend to do their very best work when they are young. Pandering to this Marxist Agenda ends up depriving the World of advancements in a difficult subject. Who knows what we shall never have because of nonsense like this?


Of course not. There are billions of Asians both Chinese and Dot Indian. The new advancements will come from them.


106 posted on 11/06/2021 12:11:59 PM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: devane617

“...or applying math concepts to topics like immigration or inequality...”

How about some basic addition, subtraction, multiplication and division?? For advanced courses, maybe balancing a checking account. Better yet, learn to count basic change back without a calculator.


107 posted on 11/06/2021 12:14:05 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (Pray for America....)
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To: Leaning Right

Clinton started it by promising that everyone would be a college graduate. Then he turned every voc program and hairdressing school into a college to qualify for loans.


108 posted on 11/06/2021 12:15:21 PM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Leaning Right

Clinton started it by promising that everyone would be a college graduate. Then he turned every voc program and hairdressing school into a college to qualify for loans.


109 posted on 11/06/2021 12:15:22 PM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Leaning Right

Clinton started it by promising that everyone would be a college graduate. Then he turned every voc program and hairdressing school into a college to qualify for loans.


110 posted on 11/06/2021 12:15:29 PM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: tet68

I’m noticing the post button is very slow this morning
resulting in multiple posts.


Yep.


111 posted on 11/06/2021 12:16:37 PM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Mouton

“...To those who don’t think there is a connection to math skill and civilization, just examine the areas of the world and how they compare to construction of bridges, cities, highways. Note that in the advanced areas wherein math is (or was) essential part of education, they have cities made of steel, glass, cement and go upward. Bridges made of steel designed to be strong and some artistically pleasant and highways that endure travel by many thousands of vehicles per hour some baring heavy loads. Meanwhile in the less math infused cultures what does one find: Bridges made of hemp, cities made of
one story concrete blocks or reeds, and highways that are used by animals as game trails....”

^THIS^


112 posted on 11/06/2021 12:17:24 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (Pray for America....)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Home schooling will allow gifted students to go as far as their talents will take them.

Sending a gifted child to a public school in CA is child abuse.


113 posted on 11/06/2021 12:17:41 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: devane617
by looking out for gender stereotypes in word problems, or applying math concepts to topics like immigration or inequality.

THIS is CRT.

Libs love to argue that CRT isn't taught in the schools because there's no actual course titled "Critical Race Theory." There doesn't need to be. CRT is baked in to everything else they teach.

114 posted on 11/06/2021 12:18:21 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024.)
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To: devane617
by looking out for gender stereotypes in word problems, or applying math concepts to topics like immigration or inequality.

THIS is CRT.

Libs love to argue that CRT isn't taught in the schools because there's no actual course titled "Critical Race Theory." There doesn't need to be. CRT is baked in to everything else they teach.

115 posted on 11/06/2021 12:18:21 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024.)
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To: Lazamataz

Trick Question


116 posted on 11/06/2021 12:20:14 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President! )
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To: Lazamataz

Not much of a payoff for making all those men have happy endings.


117 posted on 11/06/2021 12:20:39 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Mariner
If your IQ is 85, you’ll never master fractions or long division...fifth grade level. Making change is the very best that can he hoped for.

When I was in college, I majored in math and worked as a paid math tutor for the college to tutor disadvantaged students. It shocked me that blacks were not only admitted to the college and enrolled in high-level math classes, but that they could barely understand fifth grade level math.

I worked hard to tutor this one black guy in his late-twenties, teaching him basic math because I told him he can't learn calculus without the basics. I felt bad for him because I thought he wouldn't survive economically. Then I asked him why he was there. He started out parking cars, saved his money and managed to buy his own parking lot, then made enough money to hire others. Freed up enough time to go to college to figure out that he needed math. Dumb, but rich!

118 posted on 11/06/2021 1:04:55 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: devane617

Multi variable calculus and differential equations are fundamental to higher levels of understanding of many physical phenomena in all branches of Engineering, Physics, etc.


119 posted on 11/06/2021 1:14:50 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
America had better pray that some of its best children reach their full potential, somehow.
The worst part of ignoring this reality is that the hyper-focus on "equity" results in the loss of higher-performing minority kids who are ignored in the demand for equal outcomes. Granted there are fewer high-IQ, higher-performing students, in absolute and proportional numbers, among latins and blacks, but to lose the one's who are at the higher-end of the bell curve is tragic.

See Jonathan Plucker at Johns Hopkins School of Education He has identified that that black and latin high performance drops from 4th grade to 8th grade, whereas white and asian high-level performance does not, and the reason for it is not student ability but different curricula: i.e., the black and latin -dominant schools dumb down expectations by 8th grade whereas the white and asian -dominant schools maintain focus on high achievement.
120 posted on 11/06/2021 2:47:35 PM PDT by nicollo
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