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Why vaccinated people dying from Covid-19 doesn't mean the vaccines are ineffective
CNN ^ | Oct 19 2021 | Katia Hetter

Posted on 10/19/2021 10:17:56 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

Former US Secretary of State Colin Powell died on Monday of Covid-19 complications. His family announced that he was fully vaccinated. He was 84 years old, and had multiple myeloma, a blood cancer.

Health officials worry that anti-vaccine activists will seize upon Powell's death to make the claim that vaccines don't work. If you can still die after being vaccinated for Covid-19, what's the point of getting the vaccine?

CNN: When we see vaccinated people dying from Covid-19, how do you explain that vaccines are still worth taking?

Dr. Leana Wen: We need to start with the science and what the research shows. The Covid-19 vaccines are extraordinarily effective in preventing illness and especially severe disease. The most recent data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that they reduce the likelihood of testing positive for Covid-19 by six-fold and the likelihood of death by 11-fold.

That means that if you are vaccinated, you are six times less likely to get Covid-19 than someone who's unvaccinated. And you are 11 times less likely to die from Covid-19 compared to an unvaccinated person. That's really excellent.

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To: where's_the_Outrage?
That means that if you are vaccinated, you are six times less likely to get Covid-19 than someone who's unvaccinated. And you are 11 times less likely to die from Covid-19 compared to an unvaccinated person.

I'd like to know how they quantify that.

COVID can be asymptomatic -- you don't know you have it until a test tells you that you have it. Or you could be sick at home. Or hospitalized. Or COVID can kill you. Or you can be a long hauler.

Are you vaccinated? Well, in that case, COVID can be asymptomatic -- you don't know you have until a test tells you that you have it. Or you could be sick at home. Or hospitalized. Or COVID can kill you. Or you can be a long hauler.

How do you calculate that? Your unvaccinated neighbor gets COVID and is sick at home for a week. You are vaccinated and you are sick at home for a week. WHEW! You dodged a bullet!!! Had you not been vaccinated, you probably would have died!!!!

21 posted on 10/19/2021 10:27:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. A weaker, Jr partner, good at losing wars.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Answer: Because the jab was never about controlling COVID. It’s about controlling people.


22 posted on 10/19/2021 10:28:05 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Let’s see…..

The guy died from Covid problems after he had received the Covid vaccine.

Do Americans even understand that the vaccine isn’t working?

What more proof is required?


23 posted on 10/19/2021 10:28:17 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“””Former US Secretary of State Colin Powell died on Monday of Covid-19 complications”””


So why did Colin Powell’s family even mention that he had covid?

Multiple myeloma is a terminal cancer. A common cold would have taken out any 84 year old under these conditions.


24 posted on 10/19/2021 10:29:46 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

This I gotta see?


25 posted on 10/19/2021 10:30:18 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.I ha)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“they reduce the likelihood of testing positive for Covid-19 by six-fold”

The CDC announced months ago that people who have been fully vaccinated don’t need to be tested regularly.

And we are seeing that the unvaccinated are required to be tested for various purposes to show a negative test in order to be allowed to participate in various activities.

If the unvaccinated are being tested more often than the vaccinated, it’s no wonder they are showing up to a greater extent in the positive test count.

Other analyses indicate that the vaccinated can transmit the virus to other people just as easily as the unvaccinated, such as in the outbreak the CDC studied in Barnstable Co Mass. in early July.


26 posted on 10/19/2021 10:32:03 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I’m 72, have 5 co-morbidities, but got the first two shots back in March, and the “booster” just two weeks ago. I do what’s right for me, don’t preach to anyone, and you can do what’s right for you. Deal?


27 posted on 10/19/2021 10:32:37 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I took the second Pfizer shot in early March. At the time I was “fully vaccinated” - 95% effective. Now just 6 months later, I read the jabs last 2-5 months and a booster is needed. Oh, and they want me to put the mask back on and want my grandkids to take the “vaccine”.

These hacks were guessing back in March, and they’re still guessing today.


28 posted on 10/19/2021 10:33:35 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I guess we’re on the “Spin Cycle” now.


29 posted on 10/19/2021 10:36:16 AM PDT by Mathews (It's all gravy, baby!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
“That means that if you are vaccinated, you are six times less likely to get Covid-19 than someone who's unvaccinated. And you are 11 times less likely to die from Covid-19 compared to an unvaccinated person. That's really excellent.”

No, that’s not excellent. Not close. Even if those numbers were true it would be the least effective vaccine ever approved by the FDA. And this is for a condition which has a 99% survival rate. Given that there are serious side effects, it’s crazy to deny anyone the ability to opt out on this vaccine.

30 posted on 10/19/2021 10:36:51 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The “science” is fake because the data categories are in the hands of politicians. Corrupt data: corrupt science.


31 posted on 10/19/2021 10:37:02 AM PDT by Tellurian (Your phone is your cattle tag. 2/4/2004: DARPA Lifelog terminated, MZ Facebook initiated. )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“you are six times less likely to get Covid-19 than someone who’s unvaccinated”

Some double blind studies out there? Or just the usual lies?

signed, Gen. Powell


32 posted on 10/19/2021 10:37:44 AM PDT by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Medical advice from fake news CNN 🤪

That doesn’t sound very healthy.


33 posted on 10/19/2021 10:38:54 AM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Eleven times huh? There must be unvaxed stacking up like chord-wood.
34 posted on 10/19/2021 10:38:57 AM PDT by bray (Our patience is wearing thin Joe)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Remember how we had all the breakthrough cases of smallpox and mumps and deep theory and measles and polio when all of those vaccines didn’t work right?

Neither do I.


35 posted on 10/19/2021 10:39:27 AM PDT by MercyFlush (IT’S NOT A VACCINE. Once you accept this then everything else starts to make sense.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Well of course, Wen woman.

The vaccine ID’s the Covid 19 virus and neutralizes it. However, these vaxxed people aren’t dying of covid but some other variant that their now compromised immune system can’t recognize and has probably created in their bodies, perhaps?

They called the summer spikes - Delta spikes.

The big question for these folks is, what other diseases can sicken the body due to a permanently altered immune system?

A naturally immune system will recognize the variant’s similarity to the already identified Covid 19 and zap it.


36 posted on 10/19/2021 10:41:33 AM PDT by mom.mom (...our flag was still there.)
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To: carriage_hill

” I do what’s right for me, don’t preach to anyone, and you can do what’s right for you. Deal?”

I’m sure most of us that question the vax would be mare than satisfied with that deal. Unfortunately the vax is being forced on us, and that is the issue.

That being said, it would be helpful if real research and results were provided instead of this current situation of lies, deceit, and fear mongering.


37 posted on 10/19/2021 10:42:06 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?; Jane Long; ransomnote; SecAmndmt; Secret Agent Man; Jan_Sobieski; bagster; ...

Well, then, what does it mean?

That they ARE effective?

You can’t sell that one because if they were effective, people wouldn’t be getting sick with Covid in the first place.

This is gaslighting par excellence.


38 posted on 10/19/2021 10:42:32 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: oil_dude; SaveFerris; Larry Lucido
"Why do LIBERALS like to lie to themselves?"


39 posted on 10/19/2021 10:43:24 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Were State Dept. Havana Syndrome victims the guinea pigs of 5G/graphene oxide "vaccine" tests?)
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To: Little Ray

“notavax”

I like it.


40 posted on 10/19/2021 10:43:24 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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