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Colin Powell was vaccinated against Covid, but suffered from a cancer that makes the shots less effective
CNBC ^ | Oct 18, 2021 | Berkeley Lovelace Jr

Posted on 10/18/2021 3:31:01 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

Colin Powell, 84, died Monday morning due to complications from Covid-19.

Powell was fully vaccinated against the virus, his family said in a statement.

Powell was elderly, a known risk for severe Covid, and suffered from multiple myeloma, a blood cancer that studies show can make the shots less effective.

A study published in late July found that only 45% of patients with active multiple myeloma developed an "adequate" immune response after getting vaccinated with either the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccines.

Just 22% of patients in the study had a "partial" response....

Offit said fully vaccinated people with weak immune systems should also continue to wear masks and social distance indoors.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


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To: silverleaf

Well said.


101 posted on 10/18/2021 9:10:00 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: Arcadian Empire

LOL

It’s only been seven months since I got my last vaccine.

So now we have to take vaccine shots ever six months.

I’ve had my two, but I’m not going to do this more than
once or twice more.

This is nonsense.


102 posted on 10/18/2021 9:12:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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To: Fury

Big Pharma sycophants reviewing other Big Pharma sycophants is not a recipe for truth.


103 posted on 10/18/2021 9:14:53 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: nagant

wrong. go back and read the blurb. you need to learn to read and think.

you’re contradicted by the article at every point.

the reasoning is unimpeachable: the vaccine has a high probability of ****not working**** because of the cancer. therefore because of the high chance of injury to the immune system and other organ systems from the vaccine itself, it’s a simple cost benefit choice for the patient and doctor. any doctor or patient could forgo the vaccine in this case, even with comorbidities.

you weigh the downsides of the vaccine against the possible upsides for a particular patient. hopefully the patient knew that the vaccine would only work for him at about a 50/50 chance. if i had the cancer, i’d refuse the vaccine as experimental and with the vaers data flatly.

this is even before what we know now that the vaccine is only protective against the ccp virus for 4 to 5 months when it works well. that would clinch my decision to refuse. and btw. i’m a cancer surviver, so i’ve actually been in the room when those decisions had to be made.


104 posted on 10/18/2021 9:37:52 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Yeah, but...l..

Pardon my outrage, but the vaccines are complete and total Bullshit and Cancer ain’t got nothing to do with it.


105 posted on 10/18/2021 9:42:27 PM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents.)
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To: AndyJackson

Brilliant response.


106 posted on 10/18/2021 9:43:08 PM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Actually it’s the other way around, the vaccine lowers the immune system and the cancer progresses more rapidly!


107 posted on 10/19/2021 12:26:37 AM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is applied Marxism!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The COVID shots reduce your own immune system, makes it weaker.


108 posted on 10/19/2021 4:02:41 AM PDT by stockpirate (Rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God., Where Justice Ends Tyranny Begins)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

So why didnt they tell him that


109 posted on 10/19/2021 5:20:45 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: dadfly

Dr Vlad Zelenko, early proponent of the HCQ/zinc/azithromycin early treatment plan, survived his own bout with covid despite suffering from metastatic cancer and having only one lung


110 posted on 10/19/2021 6:59:37 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

We haven’t seen his medical records and death certificate.

Might have been the coof, maybe a nosocomial case he acquired from a vaxxed employee at Walter Reed.

Might have been his cancer.

The vaxx might have killed him.

We just don’t know.

All we do know is that it’s highly unlikely Deep State will be honest about it.


111 posted on 10/19/2021 7:04:37 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: discostu

“Can’t boost your immune system when you basically don’t have one.”

So, I have a question. Why in the hell did he take the vaccine in the first place, then? Think his doctors told him to do this?


112 posted on 10/19/2021 7:24:59 AM PDT by icclearly
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To: Slingwing

No, all it proves is immunocompromised people are immunocompromised. Their body isn’t good at making antibodies anymore and there isn’t much you can do about it.


113 posted on 10/19/2021 7:30:37 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: Grampa Dave

We tend to recommend a lot of shots for them. They don’t help for long. But it’s better than nothing.


114 posted on 10/19/2021 7:31:34 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: icclearly

Probably. And there was a window when the shot was probably helping him. The problem for people whose immune systems are trashed is how long. While my body might make antibodies for years after a shot somebody with a crap immune system might be weeks, or not at all even. Life is a crap shoot. Every medicine is a crap shoot. I’m allergic to benedryl. That’s how it goes sometimes.


115 posted on 10/19/2021 7:34:07 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Not to mention Covid is racist.


116 posted on 10/19/2021 7:42:05 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Colin Powell was vaccinated against Covid, but suffered from a cancer that makes the shots less effective, and makes the cancer much worse!

Physicians Asst. Whistleblower Reveals Hospital Intake With 90 Percent Vaccinated Patients and Hospital Administration Refusing to Report Adverse Events

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/10/17/physicians-asst-whistleblower-reveals-hospital-intake-with-90-percent-vaccinated-patients-and-hospital-administration-refusing-to-report-adverse-events/

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“THESE PATIENTS DESERVE TO BE HEARD” -VAERS WHISTLEBLOWER

https://thehighwire.com/videos/these-patients-deserve-to-be-heard-vaers-whistleblower/

117 posted on 10/19/2021 7:42:36 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: discostu

Thanks for your response.


118 posted on 10/19/2021 7:50:54 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Lockdowns will go down as one of the greatest peacetime policy failures in modern history! Cui bono?)
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To: dadfly

the vaccine has a high probability of ****not working**** because of the cancer. therefore because of the high chance of injury to the immune system and other organ systems from the vaccine itself
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Wrong. You’ve obviously not studied cancer, especially multiple myeloma, in the least. Cancer is not what old school oncologists would have you believe, a disease of genetic mutation. Cancer is a disease of cellular energy failure. In a healthy cell mRNA absorbs energy created by mitochondria and the Krebs cycle. mRNA uses the energy to tell epigenes what proteins they need from DNA. Then mRNA transfers the proteins to other organelles in the cytoplasm for further processing.

Cancer’s energy failure fails to energize mRNA adequately for it to perform any of these chores.

Now insert a vaccine of mRNA designed to elicit DNA proteins which can form COVID spike proteins. Without cellular energy these new mRNA proteins can do nothing, much less create the spike proteins they were programmed to create. mRNA vaccines would be useless in a cancerous system. Studies of mRNA vaccines on cancer patients yield a deplorable 20% efficacy rate against COVID.

Now add that multiple myeloma targets mRNA used by immune cells, and you have a perfect storm of vaccine incompetence.


119 posted on 10/19/2021 8:26:42 AM PDT by nagant
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To: nagant

“Now add that multiple myeloma targets mRNA used by immune cells, and you have a perfect storm of vaccine incompetence.”

huh? so now you’re agreeing with my point that you disagreed with earlier, that this would be a great reason to refuse the shot? becase the cancer limits the effectiveness of an already leaky vaccine? ok thanks i guess. or maybe again you have trouble reading.

anyway from the article which directly contradicts your analysis of the cancer (which i didn’t have and don’t be claim any expertise in.

“A study published in late July found that only 45% of patients with active multiple myeloma developed an “adequate” immune response after getting vaccinated with either the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccines.”

two points again:

powell probably wouldn’t have known about this study when he took the vaccine. too bad for him. if he had it would have been a very good reason for him to avoid the shot, which itself we now know from vaers and other sources could have very well contributed to his demise (not necessarily from the ccp virus, btw).

again it’s NOT a “perfect storm for vaccine...” as you said, because the vaccine actually works with the cancer in question in many cases (about 50/50) according to pfizer. which contradicts you and your blanket assertion about MM, once again. again i’m assuming the pfizer study was correct which is itself a big assumption.

anyway. and this is my opinion having had cancer and talked to many with with cancer of any kind, you don’t put anything in your body that you don’t have 100% confidence in it’s 1. effectiveness—that it will work as advertised and 2. safety—that it will not harm or do damage to the normal functioning of your bodies systems—all of it’s systems—and that is a holistic judgement based on your dr’s expert advice and knowledge. it’s critical to have good advice because when you’re in the disease, you’re dealing with illness and not in the best shape for doing your own research.

anyway, i’m really not clear on your point. are you just showing off your take on MM or are you addressing my general take that cancer patients in general should question taking any leaky vaccine while they have the disease? which is and was my point from the beginning. i stand by it. nothing you said convinces me otherwise. have the last word if you want.


120 posted on 10/19/2021 9:07:18 AM PDT by dadfly
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