Posted on 07/26/2021 6:00:19 AM PDT by Brookhaven
And then there’s the issue of those pesky car batteries. While you can cut down your carbon footprint by a massive margin by switching over to an EV, you just can’t get away from using finite resources completely. EV batteries contain a litany of expensive and finite rare earth metals and minerals, most notably cobalt and lithium, which cause tricky negotiations with global supply chains and which are not without their negative environmental externalities thanks to sometimes messy mining operations.
The energy revolution’s dependence on rare earth metals, which is only set to intensify, has inadvertently put a huge amount of control into the hands of China, which controls around 90% of the market for some of these resources, and has shown that it is not afraid to use that power to sway international politics and diplomacy. In fact, it has been posited that China’s dominance of these supply chains, and other countries’ reticence of that dominance, could potentially lead to a new clean energy resource war if world powers don’t tread lightly.
And now, according to a new Bank of America Global Research report, the global EV battery supply is in danger of running out completely as soon as 2025. “Our updated EV battery supply-demand model suggests the global EV battery supply will likely hit a ‘sold-out’ situation between 2025-26, with its global operating rates reaching above 85%,” the report reads ominously. The supply shortage will be largely a product of rapidly increasing demand in a market that is simply unprepared for the levels of EV adoption coming down the pike in the immediate term.
(Excerpt) Read more at oilprice.com ...
Are you suggesting the periodic table numbers are rankings of how prevalent the elements are on Earth, because that is absolutely not how the periodic table works.
“if you have magically-generated electricity”
I’ve always said liberals aren’t smart enough to realize when the other end of that battery operated car charge cord is plugged into.
" The energy revolution’s dependence on rare earth metals, which is only set to intensify, has inadvertently put a huge amount of control into the hands of China,
which controls around 90% of the market for some of these resources, and has shown that it is not afraid to use that power to sway international politics and diplomacy.
In fact, it has been posited that China’s dominance of these supply chains, and other countries’ reticence of that dominance,
could potentially lead to a new clean energy resource war if world powers don’t tread lightly."
(My comment): China has already demonstrated that "it is not afraid to use that power to sway international politics and diplomacy."
Remember the medication supply chain shortage threat of several years ago ? .. or the 'electronic chip' shortage we are currently experiencing ?
Do you know that China is already making political and financial inroads into the recently abandoned Afghanistan,
which has untapped resources of lithium, oil, and rare earth minerals.
Also, please consider the source of this article.
Mankind was never meant to fly. Anyone who tries is stoopid
Space flight is a folly. Man was never meant to go into space
Everything that will ever be invented, has already been invented
Sound familiar?
If you think Lithium battery technology has remained static this last decade, your are extremely ignorant on the subject.
They haven’t allowed us to build new nuclear plants for decades because they don’t want a solution, Poindexter.
I hope you burn up alive in your EV.
China is also headed back into Taiwan. Taiwan is the #1 maker of chips.
“Now, how many ways can you make electricity? Let’s see, geothermal, nuclear, hydroelectric, coal fired, solar, wind, waves and tidal, chemical, waterfalls, steam driven, methane, hydrogen cells.”
Waves, tidal, and waterfalls are all hydroelectric means of generation. Steam has to be created, so that’s covered under nuclear, coal, and methane. Hydrogen cells are a type of chemical generation.
Redundancy doesn’t help your argument.
How long does the battery last in one of these cars before you have to shell out 7 to 10k dollars for a new one?
Also when one of these batteries catches fire....and they do... its pretty much impossible to extenguish.
Happened in Texas a few weeks ago. Fire dept used THIRTYTWO THOUSAND gallons of water and still couldn’t put it out....just had to watch it burn itself out.
What kind of poison did that release into the atmosphere I wonder.
Lithium beneath the Salton Sea.
https://nbcpalmsprings.com/2021/04/29/salton-sea-lithium-gold-mine/
Have no idea what the worldwide supply of cobalt looks like.
Big rare earth reserves in the middle east too.
Expect war.
Some US Mining companies that work with REEs.
https://www.niocorp.com/about-niocorp/ Planned Processing facility and mine
http://tmrcorp.com/about_us/ Planned processing facility and mine
https://mpmaterials.com/what-we-do/ Operational mine
(Used to be Molycorp, REE prices were undercut by the CCP, company bankrupted. CCP owns a stake in MP materials and until 2024 they will be sending raw ores to China to separate and refund.
https://ucore.com/overview/ Planned processing facility, eventually mine.
https://medallionresources.com/ Working on processing facilities using Monzanite sands.
There are others.
WUT! You mean getting lectured by a bunch of kids hired by the bezos climate challenge/amazon bunch of guilt tossers isn’t the solution? Who would have guessed? As usual, these assclowns have ZERO clue how the world works. Sort of like the virtue signaling stadium in seattle right. Surely constructed out of hand hewn wood and all natural materials transported there by horses and mules and hoisted in to place with hemp rope and wooden block and tackle systems right? He jeffee, go for another ride in your space pecker and take billy boy with you. Until then, phu cough!
Tesla is already making cells that are expected to last 1 million miles while maintaining 80% of original charge. This is only getting better.
New Lithium Battery formulations exist, each being pursued for various benefits.
https://piedmontlithium.com/why-lithium/lithium-101/breaking-down-battery-types/
The days of lithium batteries catching fire are quickly going away.
AOC most affected.
I beg to differ. The fact that ICE have a single, limited source for fuel, and EVa have a redundant source of not only creating endless amounts of “fuel” and also storing this “fuel” for any kind of use is a powerful argument. Consider a new CynerTruck, I can drive ~500 miles, or perhaps drive it 50 miles and use the battery pack to do some welding, power a camp site, or any other electrical need. Then drive back home. Furthermore, at current prices it costs ~$50 to top off my pickup. It costs about half that to top off the CyberTruck. If I invest in a Tesla Roof/cyberVault system, my charges for my vehicles are essentially free; as is my pool, AC, lights, TV and utilities Hardly redundant at all. Any excess power I don’t store in the CyberVault is sent to the grid for a “credit”. Not money, but if I give the grid 1 KWhr, then I am owed 1 KWhr Seems fair to me. Modern solar roofs do degrade like they used to, they used to degrade 5-8% a year which made them non-practical. Current generation are guaranteed to remain at least 80% of new capacity for 20 years.
Hey!! I was gonna offer to trade him a bucket full of lead for an equal volume of silver. Thanks for nothing.
So it’s okay to list the same types of energy generation as different?
Great, then gasoline and diesel fuel can be made by pumping, drilling, refining, and siphoning. Wheeeee!!!!
Glad I could be a ray of sunshine in your world! lol.
“If you think Lithium battery technology has remained static this last decade, your are extremely ignorant on the subject.”
Actually, it is you who thinks there has been much progress. The rest of us know there has been little development that has resulted in greater electrical storage or safety. Manufacturing, sure, but nothing has changed in the chemistry, a subject only neophytes reading headlines think has changed.
Production of electricity has been centralized because it has been cheaper for the utilities to have a few generating stations supplying a large area. I expect we will see a movement to more localized generation. This is already starting with solar farms and windmills. The more generating stations, the fewer high-tension long-distance transmission lines. California should be behind this.
Want to reduce the number of cars? Have apartment complexes and condos open car rental operations. That way, cube-dwellers don't need to own a car. That's an alternative to public transportation. And those cars can be electric-only, to be carbon-free (outside of the electrical generating source).
Over-population? That problem will show a reduction over the next 3-5 years, if reports about issues with The Jab prove out.
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