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Virginia removes Robert E. Lee statue from U.S. Capitol
WWBT ^ | 12/21/20 | Adrianna Hargrove

Posted on 12/21/2020 5:18:44 AM PST by Alter Kaker

RICHMOND, Va. (WWBT) - Governor Northam announced that Virginia’s statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee was removed from the U.S. Capitol overnight.

A representative from the governor’s office was present for the removal along with United States Senator Tim Kaine and Congresswoman Jennifer Wexton.

For 111 years, the Confederate statue has stood along with America’s first president George Washington as Virginia’s contributions.

The two statues were added in 1909, which was 44 years after the Confederacy rebelled against the United States and was defeated.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: capitol; lee; robertelee; virginia
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To: Semper Vigilantis
S.V.: " People need to understand that before the civil war one's loyalty was to their state and the state's common union, not the federal government. "

Except that even in Virginia, about 40% of US military officers remained loyal to the United States.
They included Generals Scott and Thomas and Admiral Farragut.

So loyalty to the United States over their home state was not an alien concept to many Virginians at that time.

V.S.: " When the 'northern' states started changing the rules to intrude on other state's sovereignty the southern states seceded. "

What a crock of Democrat Adam Schiff!
Northern States changed no rules in 1860, rather, they constitutionally elected the first ever openly anti-slavery Republican president.
That drove Southern Democrats berserk, and the rest is history.

41 posted on 12/21/2020 7:00:10 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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To: Alter Kaker

Karl Marx and his ten plank list must be ready for mounting.


42 posted on 12/21/2020 7:13:44 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Alter Kaker

“...General Robert E. Lee was removed from the U.S. Capitol overnight.”

Like a thief in the night, they do their dirty work in the dark so people won’t see them. Cowardly sacks of Sh!t.


43 posted on 12/21/2020 7:30:15 AM PST by euram
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To: Alter Kaker

look at those three fat, disgusting pukes removing the statue of a giant of a man whose boots they aren’t fit to shine. Perfect symbolize of what America has become.


44 posted on 12/21/2020 7:30:36 AM PST by Levy78
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To: Levy78
look at those three fat, disgusting pukes removing the statue of a giant of a man whose boots they aren’t fit to shine. Perfect symbolize of what America has become.

Lee would eat their lunch, but looking at them they'd definitely put up a fight for their Big Macs.

45 posted on 12/21/2020 7:33:21 AM PST by 1Old Pro ( )
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To: Clutch Martin
I took a tour of the USMA West Point 20 or so years ago, and I was actually taken aback that no statues out on the grounds were of any graduated Confederate generals. In USMA vocabulary the Confederates were the enemy.

Interesting.

On my national anthems playlist, "Dixie" is played by the USMA Band, released in 1991.

Times have changed.

46 posted on 12/21/2020 7:36:43 AM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: BobL
without having undergone a ‘revolution’ first.

You don't think we are in the midst of a "revolution"? Perhaps removal of our history, via statues, is part of the "revolution".

I am not a fan of the Confederacy; but, RE Lee is part of our history, and he should not be erased.

47 posted on 12/21/2020 7:49:03 AM PST by LibertarianLiz ( )
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To: Alter Kaker
It doesn't END with Gen. Lee.

Doin' right ain't got no end....

48 posted on 12/21/2020 7:57:25 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: LibertarianLiz

I was thinking more of a traditional violent revolution, more than this one being done via insiders, backed up by the credible threat of violence.

Anyway, I’ve just never heard of this crap happening elsewhere, even in Western Europe, where they don’t run from their history (or allow others to force them to run), even though they also have plenty of blood in their past.

What we’re seeing now is the disintegration of a country, mostly from the inside - and that was because the people needed to hold the country together punted after coming back from WW2. I doubt we even make it another decade as even a semi-free country.


49 posted on 12/21/2020 8:11:23 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: BroJoeK
S.V.: " People need to understand that before the civil war one's loyalty was to their state and the state's common union, not the federal government. " Except that even in Virginia, about 40% of US military officers remained loyal to the United States. They included Generals Scott and Thomas and Admiral Farragut. So loyalty to the United States over their home state was not an alien concept to many Virginians at that time. V.S.: " When the 'northern' states started changing the rules to intrude on other state's sovereignty the southern states seceded. " What a crock of Democrat Adam Schiff! Northern States changed no rules in 1860, rather, they constitutionally elected the first ever openly anti-slavery Republican president. That drove Southern Democrats berserk, and the rest is history.

Yes, many were loyal to the union. I am not saying that. It was a hard choice for many people. I am saying thtat back then people tended to identify as Virginians or Carolinians or Geaorgians rather than Americans.

Agreed - Lincoln's election was a turning point, but he could not abolish slavery w/o congress. I did not mean changing the rules literally, Congress was not allowing statehood to those who were not anti-slavery, thus stacking the deck against the south. The south saw their days were numbered.

BTW - most of the north didn't give 2 craps about slavery, in fact they practiced it.

Slavery in the North

When I up to the NE from TX for work I was shocked at the racism and the way black people were treated and talked about. I had to go to 'diversity training' because of my accent, but those same people dropped the "n word" like it was nothing. THERE'S your "crock of Democrat Adam Schiff!".

50 posted on 12/21/2020 8:31:52 AM PST by Semper Vigilantis (FYI: People SUCCEED, States SECEDE.)
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To: Semper Vigilantis

Agreed. The most racist people are yankees.


51 posted on 12/21/2020 8:35:54 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Alter Kaker

In 1861 Robert E Lee was the most respected man in America. Lincoln wanted him to command the Union troops and he refused saying his allegiance was with Virginia. He was a states rights anti-federalist. We could use a few men like him today.


52 posted on 12/21/2020 8:40:34 AM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids (You may not take an interest in politics, but politics takes an interest in you "Pericles" )
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids

Have no fear we have Joe and Hunter Biden and those of their ilk.


53 posted on 12/21/2020 8:42:25 AM PST by sport
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To: Alter Kaker

If removing a statue is done under the law - I’m fine with it. Maybe someday in Florida we’ll remove every statue connected to a democrat... lawful is fine.

The problem our side had with removing statues was letting roaming bands of thugs tear down what we thought of as historic art. Mobs outside of the law....

Like in the current rerun of the 1988 movie “Pleasantville”... of course in the movie it’s liberal art being destroyed by the mob - but it’s the same mindless destruction.


54 posted on 12/21/2020 8:43:19 AM PST by GOPJ (If China let go a virus that primarily killed gays, would Madison Ave. still up Chinese in TV ads? )
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To: Semper Vigilantis
BTW - most of the north didn't give 2 craps about slavery, in fact they practiced it.

Hahahaha! Tell me another one!

55 posted on 12/21/2020 9:09:57 AM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: mouse1

Washington,Lincoln and Jefferson will not be far behind!!!


56 posted on 12/21/2020 9:29:28 AM PST by ontap
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To: ontap

First, they came for the Confederate Flag.....

We all knew then what the ultimate outcome of all of this would be.


57 posted on 12/21/2020 9:30:57 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: rockrr
How about Maryland and Delaware were slave states, most of that slave grown cotton was bought by northern textile mills!!!
58 posted on 12/21/2020 9:36:30 AM PST by ontap
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To: Clutch Martin

Agree. Pickett’s Charge was folly against Federal artillery, and the high ground.

I may be in a minority, but I think Lee should have fought for the Union...as he swore he would do on the Plain at West Point...he resigned his commission to fight for Virginia...


59 posted on 12/21/2020 9:45:05 AM PST by AFret.
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To: Semper Vigilantis

Samuel Phillips Lee, cousin of Robert E. Lee, who didn’t follow the same treasonous path. Served in the US Navy. When asked why he didn’t join Virginia he replied; “When I find the word Virginia in my commission, I will join the Confederacy”


60 posted on 12/21/2020 9:48:31 AM PST by OIFVeteran
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